22/07/16 Munich Terrorist Attack

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not much info yet but some kind of major police op in Germany. Rumors of a Gunman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...tre-evacuated-after-reported-shooting-germany
The Guardian] German police are evacuating a shopping centre in Munich after receiving reports that shots were fired said:
attacked passengers[/URL] on a regional train in northern Bavaria on Monday, before being shot dead by police.

German officials were treating that as the first attack with a jihadi motive by an asylum seeker on German soil.

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the guardian said:
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  • At least six people have been killed and an unknown number injured in a shooting in Munich. Police have referred to the incident as a terror attack.
  • At 5.52pm, gunshots were fired at a McDonald’s near the Olympia shopping centre (OEZ) in the northern Moosach area of the Bavarian capital.
  • A video appears to show one of the gunman on the rooftop carpark of the shopping centre.
  • A major police operation is underway. Police have said that up to three suspects armed with rifles are being hunted. No one has been arrested so far and officials have no indication of the attackers’ whereabouts.
  • Police have said all shoppers have now left the shopping centre.
  • The German government has set up a crisis response unit.
  • Residents have been warned via Munich’s smartphone warning system to avoid public places, stay in their homes where possible and turn on the TV and radio.
  • Munich central station and underground system is closed and has been evacuated. Motorists on the motorway into Munich have been asked to clear the road for police and emergency service vehicles.
  • Hospitals throughout Munich are on emergency alert and in “catastrophe mode”.
  • Police have said they could not confirm earlier reports of one or two other shootings elsewhere in the city, including in a large square known locally as Stachus.
What we don’t know:
  • No claim of responsibility has been made and there is no indication so far of the attackers’ motives.
  • It is not yet clear how many attackers opened fire or whether the shootings, described as a “rampage” by police, amounted to a coordinated or planned attack.
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Lorento said:
So far there are so many conflicting reports lol. We have police saying he was some deranged fool who researched mass shootings and was particularly interested in Anders Breivik. Eyewitnesses claim he shouted 'I'M GERMAN!' as well as the staple of shootings these days, 'ALLAHU ACKBAR'
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Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. Maybe this guy was just fed up with his shitty existence and decided to be the ultimate waste of skin and air by "going out guns blazing" - and he just happened to be German-Iranian without any actual connection to religious fundamentalism. Granted, at this point the chances for such tragedies not involving some goatfucking raghead is almost inconceivably low.

I do wonder if that "Allahu Ackbar" claim is true though. I think that originated from a CNN interview, however I've not yet seen any german Media latching on to that despite them having said this is most likely an islamistic terrorist attack yesterday.

Edit: Still looking for details, but 7 of the victims were less than 18 years old. Jesus Christ.
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. Maybe this guy was just fed up with his shitty existence and decided to be the ultimate waste of skin and air by "going out guns blazing" - and he just happened to be German-Iranian without any actual connection to religious fundamentalism. Granted, at this point the chances for such tragedies not involving some goatfucking raghead is almost inconceivably low.

I do wonder if that "Allahu Ackbar" claim is true though. I think that originated from a CNN interview, however I've not yet seen any german Media latching on to that despite them having said this is most likely an islamistic terrorist attack yesterday.

Edit: Still looking for details, but 7 of the victims were less than 18 years old. Jesus Christ.
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Yeah, I'm starting to lean towards the idea that this guy was an Anders Breivik fanboy, except this fellow had the decency to kill himself and not waste state funds on keeping him fed in prison.
 
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According to BR (bavarian radio):
>Police now classify this as a regular mass shooting
>Shooter was 18 years old, born and raised in Munich
>No suicide note or similar letter as of now
>no relation to IS
>He was a Breivik fanboy. He had a lot of books on shooting sprees and similar massacres
>he was carrying an (illegally obtained) 9mm Glock and 300 rounds of ammunition
>He was suffering from some sort of depression
>Apparently, the shooter has hacked a facebook account to lure in people to McDonalds (this is still not confirmed, though)

The victims have been 3 kids aged 14, two aged 15, the rest of the victims were 17, 19, 20 and 45 years old.
 
Well, turns out he was a kebab, but he was a native-born German with heritage from Iran. I won't say Islam had nothing to do with it, but it behooves me to point out that Shi'a terrorism is vastly different from most of the Sunni-originated Wahabi violence ISIS has plagued Europe with as of late. Definitely looking at something different here, but still related.
 
>Police now classify this as a regular mass shooting

Yup. Just your normal, everyday western civilization mass shooting. Nothing to see here, carry on.
 
KatsuKitty said:
Well, turns out he was a kebab, but he was a native-born German with heritage from Iran. I won't say Islam had nothing to do with it, but it behooves me to point out that Shi'a terrorism is vastly different from most of the Sunni-originated Wahabi violence ISIS has plagued Europe with as of late. Definitely looking at something different here, but still related.
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I assume identity and self-confidence issues have had a bigger impact than his religion, tbh.
LordKaT said:
>Police now classify this as a regular mass shooting

Yup. Just your normal, everyday western civilization mass shooting. Nothing to see here, carry on.
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Well, that's just my shitty translation, their choice of words was "klassicher Amoklauf eines Einzeltäters", which would rather translate to "typical rampage of a single perpetrator".
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Well, that's just my shitty translation, their choice of words was "klassicher Amoklauf eines Einzeltäters", which would rather translate to "typical rampage of a single perpetrator".
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That's still not much better.

"Oh yes, just your typical rampage. We've seen worse."
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
I assume identity and self-confidence issues have had a bigger impact than his religion, tbh.
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This is beginning to look like a situation much closer to a Dylan Roof than the usual jihadi. You grow up in a harmful orthodox culture and this reflects upon your beliefs, but it's by far not in the same league as the ISIS plague.
 
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/amoklauf-in-muenchen-so-war-der-tathergang-a-1104418.html

around 04:00 pm
Shooter hacked/took control over a facebook account (of a girl), and invited people to have something on "her" tab at mcdonalds (at Olympia-Einkaufszentrum in Munich).

05:50 pm
then the guy killed in and outside of the mcdonalds, later moved to the shopping mall and killed there too.
"I dont care about anything, I kill you all" (his words according to witness)

9 dead, 8 between 14 and 20 years...
spiegel.de writes that some/many of them are from turkey/kosovo (if they are living in germany or on vacation is not stated).

"David S.", guys name, flees to a parking deck, at that moment the video where he talks to the guy on the balcony is shot.

A civil patrol of the police tries to shoot him, but misses.

At 8:30 pm his body is found, presumably suicide.
 
LordKaT said:
That's still not much better.

"Oh yes, just your typical rampage. We've seen worse."
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No that isn't what it means. It's indeed hard to translate. There are several categories for such incidents depending on their characteristics. In this case it's a single perpetrator and he acted like many people like this before. So there is a pattern. It's not about what's worse and what is "normal".
Powerlevel: English isn't my first language but I hope people can understand my explanation.
 
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The Germans have a history of lying to defend Islam, so I wouldn't put off on it being Islam yet.
 
Rokko said:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/amoklauf-in-muenchen-so-war-der-tathergang-a-1104418.html

around 04:00 pm
Shooter hacked/took control over a facebook account (of a girl), and invited people to have something on "her" tab at mcdonalds (at Olympia-Einkaufszentrum in Munich).

05:50 pm
then the guy killed in and outside of the mcdonalds, later moved to the shopping mall and killed there too.
"I dont care about anything, I kill you all" (his words according to witness)

9 dead, 8 between 14 and 20 years...
spiegel.de writes that some/many of them are from turkey/kosovo (if they are living in germany or on vacation is not stated).

"David S.", guys name, flees to a parking deck, at that moment the video where he talks to the guy on the balcony is shot.

A civil patrol of the police tries to shoot him, but misses.

At 8:30 pm his body is found, presumably suicide.
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Yeah, obviously a Supreme Gentleman, not a Snackbar.
 
Rokko said:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/amoklauf-in-muenchen-so-war-der-tathergang-a-1104418.html

around 04:00 pm
Shooter hacked/took control over a facebook account (of a girl), and invited people to have something on "her" tab at mcdonalds (at Olympia-Einkaufszentrum in Munich).

05:50 pm
then the guy killed in and outside of the mcdonalds, later moved to the shopping mall and killed there too.
"I dont care about anything, I kill you all" (his words according to witness)

9 dead, 8 between 14 and 20 years...
spiegel.de writes that some/many of them are from turkey/kosovo (if they are living in germany or on vacation is not stated).

"David S.", guys name, flees to a parking deck, at that moment the video where he talks to the guy on the balcony is shot.

A civil patrol of the police tries to shoot him, but misses.

At 8:30 pm his body is found, presumably suicide.
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Fucking monster.
 
Yeah this sounds more like a loveshy who happened to be born of kebab and kraut.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
The victims have been 3 kids aged 14, two aged 15, the rest of the victims were 17, 19, 20 and 45 years old.
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They were so young! There's something especially tragic about young people having their lives cut short. I can't imagine how their parents must feel.

Given that 8 out of 9 of the victims were under 21, I wonder if the shooter was intentionally targeting young people? It could be that there were just more youths than older people present, but still, it's strange.
 
Cosmos said:
They were so young! There's something especially tragic about young people having their lives cut short. I can't imagine how their parents must feel.

Given that 8 out of 9 of the victims were under 21, I wonder if the shooter was intentionally targeting young people? It could be that there were just more youths than older people present, but still, it's strange.
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CNN said that ISIS is targeting the young to piss people off. It's working.
 
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