2024 UK general election - Place to watch and discuss just how fucked we are

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Election is officially over!!!
 
It would be more accurate to say that the Tories obliterated themselves. Labour didn't really gain any vote share, but the Conservatives sat on a bucket of grenades and self-detonated.

The overall turnout was one of the lowest in decades if not longer and Labour, except in a few seats technically lost vote share, but such was the apathy, or disdain for the Tories along with tactical voting and vote splitting was enough to give Labour this huge majority.

Reform, (the Farage party), have finished with 5 seats, and at time of posting there is one single solitary Constituency in the Highlands of Scotland still to declare. It was SNP but was projected to turn Labour. So SNP will finish with 9 or 10 seats, down from 39.

Edit 20.30: SNP candidate for Inverness, Skye and West Ross-Shire has conceded defeat and accepted a LibDem gain.

Final SNP count is 9.

All UK constituencies are now accounted for.
 
Terra Pax said:
I do think that Boris being effectively turfed out over a party was a bit much, but it just showed that these people always have their knives ready.
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Aw, but the insanely petty drama between rich men in their 40s (or older!) is half the fun.

Sunak and Hunt were both getting a bit too popular for Boris' liking ("Dishy Rishi" especially went through a bizarre wave of popularity) so he had to put a stop to that. Then the minute Boris looked slightly vulnerable they got their claws out and ended him.

Then shrugged and handed a ticking bomb to Liz Truss, who apparently was the only person dumb enough to not realize what was going on.
 
Hunt has an ego the size of Montana and fancies himself as the next party leader and PM.

The voters regard him as a cunt.

Unfortunately Hunt survived the election and will try and worm his way into the senior party structure.
As the Conservatives process their fucking routing at the election he will be ever present.

Advice from a life long Tory voter that put the fuckign boot into you yesterday and voted you out; if you allow Hunt to even be seen around you, you are finished.
 
Reforms membership consists largely of malcontent Nimby's, the type that get worked up over a childrens park adding to the traffic in their locale. They care about immigration only to the extent that it directly affects them, they don't give a shit about the wider social or national consquences.

Tice is a smart guy but I think he understood that his party needs tard wrangling hence why he was happy for Farage to come back. Ultimately though it's a party full of angry mongs, and it can go nowhere.

A few years from now when Labour starts ripping itself apart in government it'll be the conservatives that take over. The Civil Service, financial services sectir, and the Media will make sure of it. They won't tolerate a party that won't color within the lines.
 
A-Logato said:
What happened is we had 14 years of Conservative super majority rule. The Conservatives had free rein to do what ever they wanted yet kept pandering to left/far left the entire time or their own insiders with business deals and insider trading. They would drop a few social issues here and there including the whole trans stuff (which they only did after multiple rapes and the tavistock report) to try and appease it's voting base.

After dozens of controversies, 5 prime minsters in 4 years (4 of which weren't even elected) and inviting almost the entirety of the third world we all came together and decided that we should instead vote even harder left and vote in Labour who already made it very clear that they will double down on almost everything or remove any of the social issue changes such as the anti tranny stuff. All because it "punishes the Torries" as the country has convinced it's self that their are only 2 parties, regardless of the others policy.

So this goes beyond voting in Biden for a second round. It would be like thinking Biden isn't left wing enough and voting in Bernie Sanders just to "show it to the democrats".
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Ok but that behavior is very GOP.

Watch them have both houses of congress, the presidency, and 6-3 (5-4) in the SCOTUS and STILL just totally not be able to do nothin' but fuck tranny hookers and snort ketamine.
 
Trig.Point said:
Tice is a smart guy but I think he understood that his party needs tard wrangling hence why he was happy for Farage to come back. Ultimately though it's a party full of angry mongs, and it can go nowhere.
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I doubt Reform will be around in five years

Any far right party needs to model itself after RN. The media scaremongering about them being a neo-Nazi party honestly doesn't even land among regular voters. Le Pen runs a super tight ship and you're just fucking gone if you step over the line into questionable territory.
 
It was an 80 seat majority, not a "supermajority" that seems to be a new phrase.

However, they ignored the 80 seat majority and pandered to the left wing aspects of the Conservative Party, people I refer to as Blue Marxists. Some call them Red Tories.

They successfully moved to the Center , Center-left. And that annoyed their voters.

Yesterday's election is the result.

Labour did not win the election, the tories set their own heads on fire.
 
std::string said:
Any far right party needs to model itself after RN. The media scaremongering about them being a neo-Nazi party honestly doesn't even land among regular voters. Le Pen runs a super tight ship and you're just fucking gone if you step over the line into questionable territory.
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Any far-right party needs to model itself off of Sinn Fein.
 
std::string said:
I doubt Reform will be around in five years

Any far right party needs to model itself after RN. The media scaremongering about them being a neo-Nazi party honestly doesn't even land among regular voters. Le Pen runs a super tight ship and you're just fucking gone if you step over the line into questionable territory.
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They most likely won't be.
Their job is to pull the Tories right.
 
HairyBadger said:
It was an 80 seat majority, not a "supermajority" that seems to be a new phrase.
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"Supermajority" is an American thing.

std::string said:
Any far right party needs to model itself after RN. The media scaremongering about them being a neo-Nazi party honestly doesn't even land among regular voters. Le Pen runs a super tight ship and you're just fucking gone if you step over the line into questionable territory.
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So Farage needs to become the iron fist ruling the Reform party or find a hatchetman to fill that role.
 
Jex said:
What gets me is how the idea of fleeing the UK is universally appealing to very different people. At the beginning of the year I spent my free time fixing up a flat, going to all the usual hardware places (Howden’s, Selco, screwfix, etc.) to get what I needed. I made it a point to ask the 18-21 year old fellas that you see working there what their plan for the future was, 90% of them said that they wanted to leave the UK.

Some people may just brush it off as young guys with entry level jobs going to try their luck elsewhere, but it’s not that simple. Two different friends in their mid 30’s with established careers have approached me to ask what I think about them leaving the UK in the future, one with a high flying corporate finance job and the other owns a car dealership. Seemingly the only people happy to stay are the people that arrived yesterday.
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that is how it started in EE when the massive immigration waves started, in a decade or two it will be just expected anyone under 40 to leave and those who stay are usually criminals, the mentally deficient, and the alcoholics . The question is when people stop showing up and lining up to get to Britain. Then the fun starts.
 
std::string said:
I doubt Reform will be around in five years

Any far right party needs to model itself after RN. The media scaremongering about them being a neo-Nazi party honestly doesn't even land among regular voters. Le Pen runs a super tight ship and you're just fucking gone if you step over the line into questionable territory.
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IOW, don’t publicly declare your platform as basically a Gab/pol/ fever dream on steroids before you’re in office long enough to put your platform into action, and you could win something if resentment towards the establishment is high enough.

As for Reform’s future, wasn’t it just a repackaging of the Brexit Party as a one policy party, just immigration instead of leaving the EU, headed by Farage? It’s been UKIP, then Brexit Party, now Reform, and maybe even Britain First.
Doctor Love said:
Any far-right party needs to model itself off of Sinn Fein.
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Not sure what that means outside of the fact that they were aligned with the IRA and mellowed out after 1998, to the point where the “House the Irish, not the world” crowd considers them traitors. And they have a mural of Bobby Sands at their headquarters.
Krokodil Overdose said:
So Farage needs to become the iron fist ruling the Reform party or find a hatchetman to fill that role.
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One issue: Britain looks like it’s full of true believers (albeit not as much as Trudeau’s Canada) that nobody will even work with Farage, let alone do his dirty work. Most I can see Farage’s future is a lot conversations in old school RuneScape about how to make his death look like a suicide.
 
Random Internet Person said:
One issue: Britain looks like it’s full of true believers (albeit not as much as Trudeau’s Canada) that nobody will even work with Farage, let alone do his dirty work. Most I can see Farage’s future is a lot conversations in old school RuneScape about how to make his death look like a suicide.
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If Britian was full of True Believers, Starmer would have won on the back of turnout, not on the opposition committing sudoku with a chainsaw. I realize that "Labor didn't win so much as the Tories lost" is concentrated copium w/r/t the absolute horrorshow that Pedo Island governance will be for the next 5 years, but it does speak to the ideological makeup of the country- there's a lot of electoral money on the table right now, and an effective leader only needs one Beria or J. Edgar Hoover.
 
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