2021 Virginia State election - Federal Beaurocracy and National Establishment vs. Everyone else.

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Sped Xing said:
I've said it elsewhere, but suburbia is a hell people make for themselves.
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This is completely opposite of the truth. Suburbia was done to people who would choose otherwise if they had any other reasonable choices.

I've raised kids in the US in not-suburbia for 20 years. It's expensive, massively inconvenient, occasionally dangerous, and no one who isn't weird on some level would do it.

Blaming and shaming people for the compromises they make to give their kids the best possible lives out of the shitty options they are presented with is not a winning strategy.
 
barleyrugsoap said:
This is completely opposite of the truth. Suburbia was done to people who would choose otherwise if they had any other reasonable choices.

I've raised kids in the US in not-suburbia for 20 years. It's expensive, massively inconvenient, occasionally dangerous, and no one who isn't weird on some level would do it.

Blaming and shaming people for the compromises they make to give their kids the best possible lives out of the shitty options they are presented with is not a winning strategy.
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Lol calm down urbanite.

If living somewhere you get fined for not mowing the grass is the best life possible, put your kids in a boat and float them down the nile.
 
Sped Xing said:
Lol calm down urbanite.

If living somewhere you get fined for not mowing the grass is the best life possible, put your kids in a boat and float them down the nile.
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Actually living in the city is the pit of hell. Suburbia is just an outer ring of it. Unfortunately, people end up in suburbia because they are following jobs. I grew up in a rural area, but they are hurting there since most manufacturing closed down and the coal mines are closing. Good paying jobs are rare. That's how I ended up moving out and settling down here.

If we hadn't lost manufacturing in this country, there would be more options for people to remain in rural areas. If corporations moved in to those areas, they would just turn it into the suburbs (or worse) over time. Manufacturing jobs brought good paying jobs but didn't attract the kind of people who would ruin a rural way of life.
 
City life is inherently shit, and always always has been since Eridu.

Suburban woes are mostly manufactured by nimby dipshits, snitches, and people who drive Lexuses.

That's my point.
 
FAQnews Correspondent said:
Look what you did you evil NAZI chuds! You're LITERALLY KILLING people! Also CRT isn't being taught in schools because it doesn't exist! But if it did, it would say that race doesn't exist! Also fuck white people!! IT'S TIME TO MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY
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The Second Coming of American Fascism

There’s a A New Wave of American Fascism Rising, and This Time It’s Probably Going to Go All the Way
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This is the Second Coming of American fascism. And it’s going to be way, way worse than the first.
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Worse?

or...

better? :smug:
 
Unpaid Emotional Labourer said:
Hey, does this mean anything wrt all their plans to do away with teaching higher math and cucking their top high schools just to keep the Asians out and let the blacks in?
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Yes, unwinding the higher math plans the Dems were pushing is the main thing Youngkin wants to do.

www.foxnews.com

Glenn Youngkin: Parents matter in education – Virginia election will decide fate of students, schools

Today, Virginia finds itself at a defining moment – one that will not only impact current students but will forever shape the environment in which future generations of children will learn and thrive.
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Back me up! said:
Election Fuckery in VA is back on the Menu boys!


There is a chance the state house of Virginia might be 53 Republican's.
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I'm glad we got to 52, I think that's the limit for being able to approve judges and such.

barleyrugsoap said:
yes and Virginia did this by defending the public schools which is the 100% correct action, despite all the ridiculous homeschool boosterism in this thread and elsewhere

it's complete fantasyland that women are en masse going to go home and homeschool, in carbased suburbs, living far away from extended family, and under a family law system that punishes *both parties* for their single income lifestyle if the marriage ends. (I want to reiterate that *both* the breadwinning father and the stay at home mother get hosed in the event of a dissolution, feminists and MRAs both have points here; the issue is that one group focuses solely on women and one solely on men and no one sees the household and its wealth and social capital as a critically valuable institution worthy of protection and that's probably because the private wellfunctioning household is globohomo's biggest obstacle but I digress)

Successful GOP strategy needs to meet people where they are. Americans depend on the public schools.
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Yes, even if you support homeschooling, it is currently a luxury that not all families can do. Maybe if we could roll back time and have only one parent work and the other take care of the home, then yes, it makes total sense. But that's not the world we live in, and we need to make sure public schools aren't actively antagonistic to children so that all people, whether they're working full time or not, have access to good schools. Charter schools are one way of introducing competition that doesn't bankrupt families. Severely limiting political nonsense in the classroom is another.

Keep in mind that when teachers bitch about not being able to teach by their preferred CRT pedagogy, they are working alongside teachers who aren't allowed to breathe that they are Christian in front of students. They don't get to proselytize about anything else without getting the equivalent of the ACLU on their ass, as has happened for years with religious teachers.
 
Trianon said:
Yes, even if you support homeschooling, it is currently a luxury that not all families can do. Maybe if we could roll back time and have only one parent work and the other take care of the home, then yes, it makes total sense. But that's not the world we live in, and we need to make sure public schools aren't actively antagonistic to children so that all people, whether they're working full time or not, have access to good schools. Charter schools are one way of introducing competition that doesn't bankrupt families. Severely limiting political nonsense in the classroom is another.
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Just let your local church run its own school.
 
Maybe this explains the election results in Virginia.
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Stoneheart said:
Just let your local church run its own school.
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Public schools have gotten so bad that you're unironically better off sending your kids to one of those schools to learn that the world is 6,000 years old and all the times God killed homos and slutty bitches in the Old Testament. Better for a kid to learn weird shit like that than have them learn that white people are some sort of chaotic evil force and how to best pleasure a woman's penis. And at least Jesus forgives, unlike these fuckers.
 
Save the Loli said:
Public schools have gotten so bad that you're unironically better off sending your kids to one of those schools to learn that the world is 6,000 years old and all the times God killed homos and slutty bitches in the Old Testament. Better for a kid to learn weird shit like that than have them learn that white people are some sort of chaotic evil force and how to best pleasure a woman's penis. And at least Jesus forgives, unlike these fuckers.
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if those schools weren't massive shitshows then they would already be peeling off kids from public schools, just like people will pay money to send their kids to urban Catholic schools

but in reality that kind of church school is nearly always significantly worse than the local public school and on top of that is run out of a storefront in a stripmall and on top of that can't make payroll on the regular and on top of that loses paperwork constantly

"just let the church do it" "do pod learning" is all based in massive ignorance about how much work all of this is

new private schools crop up like mushrooms and they fail at about the same rate as restaurants except you aren't depending on the restaurant to educate your child and also allow you to go to work

pods can be both worse and better depending on the crew but it's really really dicey

people want plug and play education and they're not going to stop wanting it
 
barleyrugsoap said:
if those schools weren't massive shitshows then they would already be peeling off kids from public schools, just like people will pay money to send their kids to urban Catholic schools

but in reality that kind of church school is nearly always significantly worse than the local public school and on top of that is run out of a storefront in a stripmall and on top of that can't make payroll on the regular and on top of that loses paperwork constantly

"just let the church do it" "do pod learning" is all based in massive ignorance about how much work all of this is

new private schools crop up like mushrooms and they fail at about the same rate as restaurants except you aren't depending on the restaurant to educate your child and also allow you to go to work

pods can be both worse and better depending on the crew but it's really really dicey

people want plug and play education and they're not going to stop wanting it
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Most fundie schools (the ones that stay in business) also cost a lot of money too, like hundreds of dollars a month, which is why the school vouchers thing has been a major issue. I used to be opposed since it means the government would be paying to have (some) kids learn creationism and how God hates fags (and taking away money from public schools) but now I don't give a fuck since so many public schools are just teaching an even more perverse secular religion.
 
Save the Loli said:
Most fundie schools (the ones that stay in business) also cost a lot of money too, like hundreds of dollars a month, which is why the school vouchers thing has been a major issue. I used to be opposed since it means the government would be paying to have (some) kids learn creationism and how God hates fags (and taking away money from public schools) but now I don't give a fuck since so many public schools are just teaching an even more perverse secular religion
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the only reason people need vouchers is because they're too stupid and untrustworthy to work it the way functional private schools do, which is by charging a fraction of the real cost per student as tuition but expecting parents donate the remainder. donations, unlike tuition, are tax deductible.

I really cannot exaggerate how dysfunctional the non-elite private school world is.
 
barleyrugsoap said:
yes and Virginia did this by defending the public schools which is the 100% correct action, despite all the ridiculous homeschool boosterism in this thread and elsewhere

it's complete fantasyland that women are en masse going to go home and homeschool, in carbased suburbs, living far away from extended family, and under a family law system that punishes *both parties* for their single income lifestyle if the marriage ends. (I want to reiterate that *both* the breadwinning father and the stay at home mother get hosed in the event of a dissolution, feminists and MRAs both have points here; the issue is that one group focuses solely on women and one solely on men and no one sees the household and its wealth and social capital as a critically valuable institution worthy of protection and that's probably because the private wellfunctioning household is globohomo's biggest obstacle but I digress)

Successful GOP strategy needs to meet people where they are. Americans depend on the public schools.
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If the Right/GOP leans too far into 'fuck public schools' it's going to be the same trap the Democrats fell into with 'Defund the Police' and for much the same reasons. Homeschooling should always be an option but making it the only one for most people is going to turn them off really fast.
 
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