2016 US Presidential Election Thread 2 - Always Darkest before Don

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Every day goes by, the Clinton Shills continue to think its finished for Trump. That, frankly, is the biggest reason I'm sick of the election. Nothing Trump himself will do is gonna make me sick of the election, its all on Hillary and her shills.

That being said, the Professor who's accurately predicted the correct Presidential outcome since 1984 REFUSES to back down from his prediction that its Trump. He says its still "87%" chance for it to happen.

Quite the flip from Silver's prediction.
 
KatsuKitty said:
Doing all of that would require leaving behind the Southern white working class.
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White southern traditional racists are a dying breed. If the Republicans want to continue to be around, they need to move on from trying to pander to that voter base.
A lot of black people, Hispanics, Muslims, and even Asians are very conservative but won't align with a party with a platform against them.
 
I was only 9 years old I loved trump so much, I had all the merchandise and hats
I pray to trump every night before bed thanking him for the life I've been given.
Trump is love I say, Trump is life
My dad overhears me and calls me a faggot
I knew he was just jealous of my devotion for Trump
I called him a cunt
He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
Im crying now, and my face hurts
I lay in bed and its really cold
A warmth is moving towards me.
I feel something touch me
Its trump
I am so happy
He whispers in to ear "this is my rally
He grabs me with his dinky stubby hands and puts me on my hands and knees
I'm ready
I spread my pussy lips for Trump
He grabs my pussy
It hurts so much but I do it for Trump
I can feel my cooch tearing as my eyes start to water
I push against his force
I want to please Trump
He roars a mighty roar as he fills my cunt with his love
My dad walks in
Trump looks him straight in the eye and says "Its all donald now"
Trump leaves through my window
Trump is love Trump is life.
 
TrippinKahlua said:
Every day goes by, the Clinton Shills continue to think its finished for Trump. That, frankly, is the biggest reason I'm sick of the election. Nothing Trump himself will do is gonna make me sick of the election, its all on Hillary and her shills.

That being said, the Professor who's accurately predicted the correct Presidential outcome since 1984 REFUSES to back down from his prediction that its Trump. He says its still "87%" chance for it to happen.

Quite the flip from Silver's prediction.
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That guy? The Professor who changes his model every time, and post-facto tries to justify it? And doesn't use any actual data points but instead goes "Muh feels"?

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Jesus, you really are slipping into halal territory.
 
Pikimon said:
The best chance the GOP has at recapturing their voter base is to shift over to Libertarian policies concerned with freedom of choice and small government politics. They would also need to work their asses off to repair their image with Hispanics (which once upon a time used to vote mostly Republican), Asians (same thing), Women (Yep), and other key demographics that are bit by bit changing the political landscape of the United States.
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I really don't buy the whole "The GOP will be better off going more libertarian" argument. Sure, in a lot of ways it is more intellectually consistent, but there is a reason libertarians haven't ever been elected to national office: they can't form a coalition of voters broad enough to win. Obama won because he built a coalition of minority voters, young folks, progressives, and women. Bush won because he had whites, the working class, a decent chunk of Hispanics (for a republican), and near universal support from evangelicals.

The way for the GOP to start winning again is to look at demographics and start trying to rebuild something like a Bush coalition of white working people, Christians, social conservatives, and economic conservatives. Importantly, a libertarian platform hardcore alienates evangelicals and social conservatives (i.e. a giant portion of the base).

The problem is that these GOP voting blocks are smaller each year, which is why the GOP needs to do some soul searching. However, some obvious stuff they should do would alienate important parts of their base. For instance, you want to start appealing more to young voters by softening your stance on social issues like gay marriage? You just alienated the evangelicals. Trump has proven their is a lot of support in the base for hardline immigration policies, but the last GOP president had decent support from the Hispanic community.

Basically, the GOP is just in a tough spot at the national level right now. I think their best chance would be to nominate a "compassionate" conservative like Kasich who could conceivably roast Clinton in a general. However, as we've just seen, getting such a person through the nomination process is far from easy, given the makeup of the base.
 
Beaniebon said:
White southern traditional racists are a dying breed. If the Republicans want to continue to be around, they need to move on from trying to pander to that voter base.
A lot of black people, Hispanics, Muslims, and even Asians are very conservative but won't align with a party with a platform against them.
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It's pretty senseless at this point to "save" this demographic; Trump is proving you can't have your cake (pander to them) and eat it too (have mass-appeal against the weakest Democrat candidate in forever). Seriously, a red box of tic-tacs could have beaten Hillary. Since I see the two party system as a veritable law of nature in American politics, the GOP will eventually leave them behind, there's just no question. Racist working-class southerners must change themselves, or be left behind in an agonizing downfall as the rest of society keeps marching through.

The Giver said:
The problem is that these GOP voting blocks are smaller each year, which is why the GOP needs to do some soul searching. However, some obvious stuff they should do would alienate important parts of their base. For instance, you want to start appealing more to young voters by softening your stance on social issues like gay marriage? You just alienated the evangelicals. Trump has proven their is a lot of support in the base for hardline immigration policies, but the last GOP president had decent support from the Hispanic community.

Basically, the GOP is just in a tough spot at the national level right now. I think their best chance would be to nominate a "compassionate" conservative like Kasich who could conceivably roast Clinton in a general. However, as we've just seen, getting such a person through the nomination process is far from easy, given the makeup of the base.
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The way forward is moderation. I'm already hearing younger conservatives describe themselves as "personally opposed" to things like gay marriage but believe that it's not the government's place to impose that position by fiat, instead proposing that the current idea of bureaucratic marriage be returned to the churches and people. The only alternative here would involve being both so stubborn and radical on your position that you get left behind as it becomes a less and less popular position. Current demographics don't exactly show they're cranking out droves of the dominionist variety of evangelical in the younger crowd.

We've seen this already in the years and years of obstructionism with the majority-GOP Congress. Look what they're doing with Merrick Garland and McCain's Supreme Court comments on a looming Hillary victory. Barry Goldwater himself said these people simply don't compromise on their radical positions, they're stubborn as a lead jackass statue. This is what ultimately has to go for the GOP to survive.
 
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The GOP became unsalvagable once the Tea Party was allowed to take over.
 
KatsuKitty said:
Racist working-class southerners must change themselves, or be left behind in an agonizing downfall as the rest of society keeps marching through.
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I agree, though I'd say the "racist" southern voter is somewhat misunderstood. It really isn't the case that a ton of folks will outright hate any black person or anything like that. Now of course those folks are still around and lots of folks do still say "racist" things, but it is less pervasive and horrifying than it was even 10,15 years ago. An exception here is the genuine hatred of affirmative action; however, even in this case, the critique is that this policy is bad precisely because it is racist in giving advantages to folks based on race.

What does go on in the South, imo, is a lot of rage regarding lost factory jobs, political correctness, the assault of "traditional christian" values, etc. What is fucking over the GOP is that they can't moderate themselves on issues like Trans, gay marriage, or abortion without alienating the huge number of evangelicals (who I'd say clearly outnumber racists by a large amount). The tension is between fiscal and social conservatism, the coalition that got W elected twice, but the social component of which is increasingly harming them with midwestern moderates and young voters.
 
Holy shit nobody is going to halal TK because he still thinks Trump might win the election, he's a lovable guy who entertains us with hilarious stories.
 
Beaniebon said:
Hillary and her supporters dont understand memes . . . attempts at making them are pathetic. "Trumped up trickle down!"
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This is actually not that bad as it could have ended up being as they avoided using voodoo instead because I know the 90's won't go away but that has passed on as a way to take swings at Ronald's debt increasing attempt at supply side economic prosperity as the way to go for the economy, to all our benefit I think.

TrippinKahlua said:
Every day goes by. . . its finished for Trump. . . That being said, the Professor who's accurately predicted the correct Presidential outcome since 1984 REFUSES to back down from his prediction that its Trump. He says its still "87%" chance for it to happen.
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Two things, no three, first, never change purple sorcerer, the ADF 'questionaire' reply made me LMAO only somewhat because I kept nodding along with your answers to the sections, that was great. Second, you realize that countdown is because on November 8th, the things over and all that's left is the lawsuit tears by the loser if that, so we're all moving on from there? So don't hate the spectators, hate the game. Third, do you remember the story of Ole Yeller? They loved that old dog but when it came time to do what was right because he'd lost his mind they took him out back and blew him away with Pa's rifle. This is probably an ole yeller situation is the easiest explanation since he's been making educated guesses 32 years now and streaks are made to be broken.
 
Very Honest Content said:
This is actually not that bad as it could have ended up being as they avoided using voodoo instead because I know the 90's won't go away but that has passed on as a way to take swings at Ronald's debt increasing attempt at supply side economic prosperity as the way to go for the economy, to all our benefit I think.



Two things, no three, first, never change purple sorcerer, the ADF 'questionaire' reply made me LMAO only somewhat because I kept nodding along with your answers to the sections, that was great. Second, you realize that countdown is because on November 8th, the things over and all that's left is the lawsuit tears by the loser if that, so we're all moving on from there? So don't hate the spectators, hate the game. Third, do you remember the story of Ole Yeller? They loved that old dog but when it came time to do what was right because he'd lost his mind they took him out back and blew him away with Pa's rifle. This is probably an ole yeller situation is the easiest explanation since he's been making educated guesses 32 years now and streaks are made to be broken.
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dude what are you even saying
 
That Clinton's soundbites could be worse, TK makes me laugh on here regularly with how much he hates Phil and that the professor he cites has most likely lost his edge at what he's doing. All clear now @The 25th Cyberman , or do I need to start assembling a few Doctors in a time machine?
 
DuskEngine said:
ban those who insult tk
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Tk is a treasure and should be cherished.

Trump will sue his accusers when the election is over.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-gettysburg_us_580b998be4b000d0b157136d?section=
“Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. Total fabrication,” Trump said. “The events never happened. Never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over.”
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Given that he's backed off from the NYT I doubt he'll be successful
 
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Fantasy Map time! I've been wanting to do this for awhile, and now seems like a good time to bring this up, since I seem to be the only one on this tiny side of the internet (talk about aggregate!) who still believes a Trump win is certainly possible.

(this situation isn't a "likely" situation but more as an "What if" situtation.)

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Map used is http://www.270towin.com/ States this website claims are "Swing States" are filled in with their proper Party colour. (Georgia, Arizona, Utah, North Carolina, Wisconsin). This fantasy map is if Michigan, which has been solidly Blue for the past good few elections and takes a goddamn good look at Detroit and thinks "Is Hillary worth it?" votes for Trump. Most think if there is any solidly blue state Trump can flip, its Michigan.

This map allows Trump to win without Pennsylvania and Virginia, yet assumes Iowa and Nevada go for Trump.

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Of course, a landslide would be most delicious, but I'd really like to see a situation like this. One where I can go "HA! HA! MAJORITY RULES BITCHES!"

Again, states that should not be swing states are filled in with their proper colour. You noticed I have included Maine's 2nd District for Trump, because I interestingly run into many an article suggesting this. I don't think it's likely though, but vital if Trump wins in a very close call.
 
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