The Great Twitter Meltdown of 2021 - Emulator creator Byuu bullied to death by HateSpeech™ forum, Twitter takes up arms (Still No Death Report)

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Will This Be Of Any Consequence?

  • Yes, Kiwi Farms terrorists will be publicly hanged

    Votes: 801 14.4%
  • Yes, Kiwi Farms will be shut down

    Votes: 101 1.8%
  • No, 41% the army has already taken 41% casualties

    Votes: 1,956 35.1%
  • No, this backfires and MATI goes viral

    Votes: 787 14.1%
  • REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    Votes: 1,928 34.6%

  • Total voters
    5,573
Marcan just shared this article from USA TODAY. Wayne Beckett wasn't a LARP, and even shared new photos and confirmed the identity. Looks like he is really dead folks.

Lmao I hope no one actually falls for that shit. "Wayne Beckett" is just the same dumbass larper here and sent them some old instagram type photos. The only thing this indicates so far is that "Wayne Beckett" is not just a troll but is in on the con, since he evidently at least had access to Byuus personal instagram/social media.
Almost a month later and the only thing that would indicate he's even dead aside from claims by two people using profiles with no real world ties is the regurgitated same few lines from various "media" outlets. And those are more or less just copy/pasted from one another with a few words changed out so that the overpaid bloggers that call themselves journalists can collect their $100 article bounty and not get dinged for blatant plagiarism.
 
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A renowned developer who used the pseudonym Near/Byuu last month posted a Twitter thread excoriating the online forum Kiwi Farms for intense bullying and implied they were going to kill themselves. The thread was shared more than a thousand times and lit up the gaming scene after reports that Near later died by suicide.

Kiwi Farms bills itself as a "community dedicated to discussing eccentric people," though researchers who study extremist communities say it's notorious for degrading and harassing its targets – often those they perceive as deviant and many of whom struggle with existing mental health issues.

Wayne Beckett, founder of Hong-Kong-based Datapower Development, said Near, whose full name was David Kirk Ginder, was an employee and confirmed Ginder's death to USA TODAY. Beckett said Ginder, who identified as nonbinary, shared that they were having trouble with bullying online, though didn't explicitly name Kiwi Farms. Beckett said the company offered to help Ginder, but they said they were handling it.

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David Kirk Ginder at a cat cafe in Tokyo in 2018. Provided By Wayne Beckett

Kiwi Farms' founder Josh Moon posted a statement on his site denying responsibility, and noted in an email to USA TODAY that "there is no evidence of any harassment."
Experts at the American Association of Suicidology say it's impossible to establish a direct link between toxic online cultures and a suicide attempt or completed suicide. However, they stress that not enough attention is paid to bullying, harassment and anti-social behaviors online, and how they may increase a person's suicide risk.

Bad behavior often appears in less regulated online forums such as Kiwi Farms, 8chan and 4chan but has seeped into more mainstream platforms, showing up in tweets and direct messages, as well as in comments on news stories.

"Toxic online cultures seek to alienate or 'other' certain communities while maintaining exclusivity for the people that gravitate towards them," said Beau Pinkman, chair of the American Association of Suicidology's Tech and Innovations Committee. "When these cultures are weaponized by certain actors to target specific people through doxxing or other methods it can be especially alienating and traumatic for those affected people who once considered the online space a safe area for them."

Ginder wrote in their Twitter thread on June 26 that "every few months, it's something new. A new dox, a new thread, a new tangent."
This isn't the first time Kiwi Farms has been accused of playing a role in a person's suicide. In 2018, a transgender woman died by suicide in Portland, and friends told The Oregonian the victim, Chloe Sagal, was harassed by Kiwi Farms.

The problem grows​

Mainstream media platforms also have a problem with online harassment. Media personality Courtney Stodden said in May she was harassed on Twitter by Chrissy Teigen. Stodden said Teigen would "publicly tweet about wanting me to take 'a dirt nap' but would privately DM me and tell me to kill myself."

During the pandemic, health care workers tasked with communicating COVID health precautions have beenthe target of online harassment to the point of driving some out of the workforce. TikTok influencers have spoken out about rampant harassment on the platform, and at least one creator told BuzzFeed they were told to "commit suicide."

"I'm very very angry – furious with Kiwi Farms," Beckett told USA TODAY. "I just want them to appreciate the gravity of what they've done. They certainly contributed to (Ginder's) death. ... They were quite precious to us. How do you replace the irreplaceable?"

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Hector Martin, a friend of Ginder's, said Ginder was repeatedly harassed by Kiwi Farms' users on and off the forum, sometimes with comments "along the lines of 'kill yourself,'" though Martin said Ginder was most disturbed by what they claimed were Kiwi Farms' attempts to suicide bait one of their friends.

USA TODAY found a number of posts on Kiwi Farms attacking Ginder and calling them derogatory slurs. After news of their suicide, one user posted, "This loser better have an after party where his family dances over his corpse."

Experts say more research is needed to understand bullying and victimization online.
April Foreman, a clinical psychologist and board member at the American Association of Suicidology, said people who engage in trolling and harassment are also a population at high risk for suicide themselves. From a public health perspective, it behooves prevention experts to better understand the anti-social behaviors at play.

"Sites that ridicule others for entertainment are not great for your wellness. Even if you're not suicidal, spending a lot of time engaged in antisocial behaviors is generally not good," Foreman said.

Sites whose purpose is 'trolling, harassment and very intense bullying'​

More than 40% of Americans have experienced online harassment, according to a Pew Research Center survey published in January, and 36% of those who reported severe harassing behaviors said their most recent experience was extremely or very upsetting.

And according to the ADL's 2021 “Online Hate and Harassment” report, 33% of respondents report that harassment was based on their identity.
Social media is the most common place of harassment, according to Pew's survey, though experts say it's rife on less mainstream sites such as Kiwi Farms and some of the more well-known "chans," which pride themselves on free speech.

Moon said in his statement in response to Ginder's death that "users on this website are ordinary people who want to watch the trash TV of the Internet. With limited exception ... there is no desire to see people harmed."

When a target to harass is identified on a given forum, experts say often users will troll them on other platforms. Research shows victims of cyberbullying are at a greater risk than nonvictims of suicidal behaviors.
"The purpose of these sites is trolling, harassment and very intense bullying," said Megan Squire, a professor of computer science at Elon University and a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

'This stuff really hurts'​

Foreman said people who participate in toxic online communities are driven by complex motivations.
Empathy and compassion responses vary from person to person. People with cluster B disorders – characterized by a disregard for others' feelings and which include antisocial personality disorder and borderline personality disorder – struggle with empathy and perspective and have difficulty with guilt and remorse.

Some people who exhibit a lack of empathy may have a maladaptive response to boredom. Developmental experiences such as abuse can also prohibit people from acting in prosocial ways.
Ginder said in their Twitter thread that they'd been suffering a long time, but Kiwi Farms "made the harassment orders of magnitude worse."
"It's escalated from attacking me for being autistic to attacking and doxing my friends, and trying to suicide bait another, just to get a reaction from me," Ginder wrote. "The internet is not a game. It's real life. I'm a real person. This stuff really hurts."
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David Kirk Ginder in Tokyo in 2018. Provided By Wayne Beckett

Pinkman said the language of suicide has long been present in communities online. Acronyms like KYS (kill yourself) are omnipresent, but with suicide baiting, the language is weaponized.
A small study in 2019, "Suicide baiting in the internet era," analyzed 26 suicide attempts in front of webcams and found 42% of audiences baited suicidal individuals.
Foreman said suicide baiting isn't unique to the internet.

"If you have somebody who is at the top of a tall building and they say they're going to jump and a large crowd gathers, some people will suicide bait," she said. "This isn't even just a digital behavior. This is a human behavior, and that's what bothers me, I think, about some of the really naïve commentary about social media. ... It's as if they think digital behavior is so divergent, and I don't know that you can say that. In real life, people will suicide bait and other people will say, 'Please don't do it.'"

Many users who retweeted Ginder's thread expressed shock, sadness and horror at the pain expressed. Many assailed Kiwi Farms for what they perceived as the site's complicity.
Lauren Alexander, a senior communications manager at Twitter, said "Twitter does not allow people to promote or encourage self-harm on the service." Alexander said Twitter encourages users to reach out to anyone posting about suicide or self-harm directly. If they don't feel comfortable, they can contact Twitter to report threats of suicide.
Martin said many people close to Ginder tried to intervene when they saw their thread, but Ginder was intensely private and few people knew their home address or phone number. No one was able to locate Ginder in time.

A 'bad scene' that needs more study​

In Ginder's Twitter thread, they said they "tried everything" to manage their suffering, including medication and therapy.
"The question isn't, 'does Kiwi Farms cause suicide or not,'" Foreman said. "This is a person who may very well have been at risk for suicide, whether we live in the digital era or not," but, she said, "I don't think anyone would disagree that there are some real violations of social norms and social expectations."

Squire said for those experiencing harassment online, it can be helpful to recognize they are not alone.
"It's a very bad scene, and it needs a lot more study," she said. "I think a lot of people get really worked up about the violent extremists ... but the harassment and trolling aspect of these sites are really harmful."

In Ginder's Twitter thread, they said they hoped eventually Kiwi Farms would be held accountable for its culture of abuse.
"I pray that someone, at some point, will do something about that website," they said. "There's too many people suffering, and no one seems to care because we are relative nobodies online."
 
Imagine if this really is the same Wayne he blurts out to one of these journalists that he has a picture of the corpse like he did here, causing all these offers and thus selling out his friend's corpse and we finally get confirmation beyond stupid insta photos
 
Of course you got to love how Twitter tries to cover their ass, as if they are the most saintly of places and things don't ever happen there.
Lauren Alexander, a senior communications manager at Twitter, said "Twitter does not allow people to promote or encourage self-harm on the service." Alexander said Twitter encourages users to reach out to anyone posting about suicide or self-harm directly. If they don't feel comfortable, they can contact Twitter to report threats of suicide.
 
Marcan just shared this article from USA TODAY. Wayne Beckett wasn't a LARP, and even shared new photos and confirmed the identity. Looks like he is really dead folks.

So I assume McPaper had a death certificate and obituary and actually confirmed details, other than just relying on some Internet retard?

Oh let me see. Hmm. Weeping. Sobbing. Cites to Twitter threads.

But then, omg, definite proof here, PICTURES OF CATS.

Well how will we ever recover?
 
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Kiwi Farms' founder Josh Moon posted a statement on his site denying responsibility, and noted in an email to USA TODAY that "there is no evidence of any harassment."

@Null , can you confirm this? Did you actually respond to this journalist, or are they just cribbing the response thread you posted?

After news of their suicide, one user posted, "This loser better have an after party where his family dances over his corpse."

Found the post. Congrats, @Tardar the Barbarian .

Social media is the most common place of harassment, according to Pew's survey, though experts say it's rife on less mainstream sites such as Kiwi Farms and some of the more well-known "chans," which pride themselves on free speech.

Twitter is more toxic than the Farms, confirmed.

Empathy and compassion responses vary from person to person. People with cluster B disorders – characterized by a disregard for others' feelings and which include antisocial personality disorder and borderline personality disorder – struggle with empathy and perspective and have difficulty with guilt and remorse.

Some people who exhibit a lack of empathy may have a maladaptive response to boredom. Developmental experiences such as abuse can also prohibit people from acting in prosocial ways.

Troon kills self, but we're the crazy and/or abused ones.

At any rate, I'm now convinced that at least @Wayne Beckett is the real deal and he genuinely believes Ginder is dead. If he would be so kind as to share with us his reasons for believing so, along with answering at least some of the sincere questions we have asked here about the urn photo and so on, it would be greatly appreciated. We know you're in pain, but if you don't flame us, we won't flame you, I promise. Let's talk.
 
@Null , can you confirm this? Did you actually respond to this journalist, or are they just cribbing the response thread you posted?
>The statement is pretty comprehensive. The only thing I'd like to point out is that at even after all this time there is still no evidence that anyone has been harmed. The person who published the claim got the information from an allegedly anonymous source, and has since moved on from the topic and blocks anyone who asks him questions. There is nothing in that thread which would prompt anyone to harm themselves and there is no evidence of any harassment at all, nevermind harassment stemming from users of the site.
 
Marcan just shared this article from USA TODAY. Wayne Beckett wasn't a LARP, and even shared new photos and confirmed the identity. Looks like he is really dead folks.

Still pretty skeptical he actually killed himself, but I do love how JewSA today talks about this. They act like anyone here should feel bad that he killed himself, and that twatter and them have the moral high ground on this issue. Journos and twatter trannies both dox and harass people on the regular, and in ways that go well beyond what even the most aggressive internet trolls do. Kiwifarms has rules which prohibit encouraging harassment on the forums, they do not.
 
So wait, there's now obvious proof of the death of this faggot? We now know, it's been PROVEN, there's a death certificate, an obituary?

Oh wait, there is DEFINITELY complete PROOF. He was photographed with CATS. This definitely proves he's dead.
 
So wait, there's now obvious proof of the death of this faggot? We now know, it's been PROVEN, there's a death certificate, an obituary?

Oh wait, there is DEFINITELY complete PROOF. He was photographed with CATS. This definitely proves he's dead.
I won't believe it until Null tells us he's being haunted by the ghost of Byuu
 
So wait, there's now obvious proof of the death of this faggot? We now know, it's been PROVEN, there's a death certificate, an obituary?

Oh wait, there is DEFINITELY complete PROOF. He was photographed with CATS. This definitely proves he's dead.
What makes you think that an obituary proof of anything?
I'm pretty sure any regular shlub could pay a newspaper to print one.
 
Wow, it looks like Byuu/Near did indeed sudoku IRL!

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'The internet is not a game. ... This stuff really hurts.' Respected developer who was bullied online dies by suicide.

Alia E. Dastagir - USA TODAY
Published 12:57 p.m. ET Jul. 23, 2021Updated 3:19 p.m. ET Jul. 23, 2021

A renowned developer who used the pseudonym Near/Byuu last month posted a Twitter thread excoriating the online forum Kiwi Farms for intense bullying and implied they were going to kill themselves. The thread was shared more than a thousand times and lit up the gaming scene after reports that Near later died by suicide.

Kiwi Farms bills itself as a "community dedicated to discussing eccentric people," though researchers who study extremist communities say it's notorious for degrading and harassing its targets – often those they perceive as deviant and many of whom struggle with existing mental health issues.

Wayne Beckett, founder of Hong-Kong-based Datapower Development, said Near, whose full name was David Kirk Ginder, was an employee and confirmed Ginder's death to USA TODAY. Beckett said Ginder, who identified as nonbinary, shared that they were having trouble with bullying online, though didn't explicitly name Kiwi Farms. Beckett said the company offered to help Ginder, but they said they were handling it.

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David Kirk Ginder at a cat cafe in Tokyo in 2018. Provided By Wayne Beckett

Kiwi Farms' founder Josh Moon posted a statement on his site denying responsibility, and noted in an email to USA TODAY that "there is no evidence of any harassment."

Experts at the American Association of Suicidology say it's impossible to establish a direct link between toxic online cultures and a suicide attempt or completed suicide. However, they stress that not enough attention is paid to bullying, harassment and anti-social behaviors online, and how they may increase a person's suicide risk.

Bad behavior often appears in less regulated online forums such as Kiwi Farms, 8chan and 4chan but has seeped into more mainstream platforms, showing up in tweets and direct messages, as well as in comments on news stories.

"Toxic online cultures seek to alienate or 'other' certain communities while maintaining exclusivity for the people that gravitate towards them," said Beau Pinkham, chair of the American Association of Suicidology's Tech and Innovations Committee. "When these cultures are weaponized by certain actors to target specific people through doxxing or other methods it can be especially alienating and traumatic for those affected people who once considered the online space a safe area for them."

Ginder wrote in their Twitter thread on June 26 that "every few months, it's something new. A new dox, a new thread, a new tangent."
This isn't the first time Kiwi Farms has been accused of playing a role in a person's suicide. In 2018, a transgender woman died by suicide in Portland, and friends told The Oregonian the victim, Chloe Sagal, was harassed by Kiwi Farms.

The problem grows​

Mainstream media platforms also have a problem with online harassment. Media personality Courtney Stodden said in May she was harassed on Twitter by Chrissy Teigen. Stodden said Teigen would "publicly tweet about wanting me to take 'a dirt nap' but would privately DM me and tell me to kill myself."

During the pandemic, health care workers tasked with communicating COVID health precautions have been the target of online harassment to the point of driving some out of the workforce. TikTok influencers have spoken out about rampant harassment on the platform, and one creator told BuzzFeed they were told to "commit suicide."

Sites that ridicule others for entertainment are not great for your wellness. Even if you're not suicidal, spending a lot of time engaged in antisocial behaviors is generally not good.APRIL FOREMAN, A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND BOARD MEMBER AT THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF SUICIDOLOGY

"I'm very very angry – furious with Kiwi Farms," Beckett told USA TODAY. "I just want them to appreciate the gravity of what they've done. They certainly contributed to (Ginder's) death. ... They were quite precious to us. How do you replace the irreplaceable?"

@NewsFedora
Wonderful tribute to Near in the latest sd2snes firmware. Near had been looking forward to this release as it fixed a very strange bug that was uncovered thanks to their Bahamut Lagoon translation.

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5:44 AM · Jul 11, 2021

Hector Martin, a friend of Ginder's, said Ginder was repeatedly harassed by Kiwi Farms' users on and off the forum, sometimes with comments "along the lines of 'kill yourself,'" though Martin said Ginder was most disturbed by what they claimed were Kiwi Farms' attempts to suicide bait one of their friends.

USA TODAY found a number of posts on Kiwi Farms attacking Ginder and calling them derogatory slurs. After news of their suicide, one user posted, "This loser better have an after party where his family dances over his corpse."

Experts say more research is needed to understand bullying and victimization online.

April Foreman, a clinical psychologist and board member at the American Association of Suicidology, said people who engage in trolling and harassment are also a population at high risk for suicide themselves. From a public health perspective, it behooves prevention experts to better understand the anti-social behaviors at play.

"Sites that ridicule others for entertainment are not great for your wellness. Even if you're not suicidal, spending a lot of time engaged in antisocial behaviors is generally not good," Foreman said.

Sites whose purpose is 'trolling, harassment and very intense bullying'​

More than 40% of Americans have experienced online harassment, according to a Pew Research Center survey published in January, and 36% of those who reported severe harassing behaviors said their most recent experience was extremely or very upsetting.
And according to the ADL's 2021 “Online Hate and Harassment” report, 33% of respondents report that harassment was based on their identity.

Social media is the most common place of harassment, according to Pew's survey, though experts say it's rife on less mainstream sites such as Kiwi Farms and some of the more well-known "chans," which pride themselves on free speech.

Moon said in his statement in response to Ginder's death that "users on this website are ordinary people who want to watch the trash TV of the Internet. With limited exception ... there is no desire to see people harmed."

When a target to harass is identified on a given forum, experts say often users will troll them on other platforms. Research shows victims of cyberbullying are at a greater risk than nonvictims of suicidal behaviors.

"The purpose of these sites is trolling, harassment and very intense bullying," said Megan Squire, a professor of computer science at Elon University and a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

'This stuff really hurts'​

Foreman said people who participate in toxic online communities are driven by complex motivations.

Empathy and compassion responses vary from person to person. People with cluster B disorders – characterized by a disregard for others' feelings and which include antisocial personality disorder and borderline personality disorder – struggle with empathy and perspective and have difficulty with guilt and remorse.

Some people who exhibit a lack of empathy may have a maladaptive response to boredom. Developmental experiences such as abuse can also prohibit people from acting in prosocial ways.

This isn't even just a digital behavior. This is a human behavior, and that's what bothers me, I think, about some of the really naive commentary about social media. - APRIL FOREMAN, A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND BOARD MEMBER AT THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF SUICIDOLOGY

Ginder said in their Twitter thread that they'd been suffering a long time, but Kiwi Farms "made the harassment orders of magnitude worse."

"It's escalated from attacking me for being autistic to attacking and doxing my friends, and trying to suicide bait another, just to get a reaction from me," Ginder wrote. "The internet is not a game. It's real life. I'm a real person. This stuff really hurts."

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David Kirk Ginder in Tokyo in 2018. Provided By Wayne Beckett

Pinkham said the language of suicide has long been present in communities online. Acronyms like KYS (kill yourself) are omnipresent, but with suicide baiting, the language is weaponized.

A small study in 2019, "Suicide baiting in the internet era," analyzed 26 suicide attempts in front of webcams and found 42% of audiences baited suicidal individuals.

Foreman said suicide baiting isn't unique to the internet.
"If you have somebody who is at the top of a tall building and they say they're going to jump and a large crowd gathers, some people will suicide bait," she said. "This isn't even just a digital behavior. This is a human behavior, and that's what bothers me, I think, about some of the really naïve commentary about social media. ... It's as if they think digital behavior is so divergent, and I don't know that you can say that. In real life, people will suicide bait and other people will say, 'Please don't do it.'"

Many users who retweeted Ginder's thread expressed shock, sadness and horror at the pain expressed. Many assailed Kiwi Farms for what they perceived as the site's complicity.

Lauren Alexander, a senior communications manager at Twitter, said "Twitter does not allow people to promote or encourage self-harm on the service." Alexander said Twitter encourages users to reach out to anyone posting about suicide or self-harm directly. If they don't feel comfortable, they can contact Twitter to report threats of suicide.

Martin said many people close to Ginder tried to intervene when they saw their thread, but Ginder was intensely private and few people knew their home address or phone number. No one was able to locate Ginder in time.

A 'bad scene' that needs more study​

In Ginder's Twitter thread, they said they "tried everything" to manage their suffering, including medication and therapy.
"The question isn't, 'does Kiwi Farms cause suicide or not,'" Foreman said. "This is a person who may very well have been at risk for suicide, whether we live in the digital era or not," but, she said, "I don't think anyone would disagree that there are some real violations of social norms and social expectations."

Squire said for those experiencing harassment online, it can be helpful to recognize they are not alone.

"It's a very bad scene, and it needs a lot more study," she said. "I think a lot of people get really worked up about the violent extremists ... but the harassment and trolling aspect of these sites are really harmful."

In Ginder's Twitter thread, they said they hoped eventually Kiwi Farms would be held accountable for its culture of abuse.

"I pray that someone, at some point, will do something about that website," they said. "There's too many people suffering, and no one seems to care because we are relative nobodies online."
 
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Site was down for some time. i guess its another attack, man the batllestations!


David Kirk Ginder at a cat cafe in Tokyo in 2018. Provided By Wayne Beckett
So some journo scum read this thread and made an article from some larpers post?
 
Until an actual funeral takes place, pics or it didn't happen. :story:
This article is probably the best confirmation any of us are going to get.

What an ignominious end for the troon Byuu/Near. A cheap ass cookie jar that looks like total shit, sent to his employer, because his family already committed sudoku, or rightfully wanted nothing to do with this degenerate. I really can't think of a more pathetic outcome.

Anyone know if this will finally push the statistic up to 42%?
 
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