Is Chris "getting better"?

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Yes and no.

It hasn't been a year since he pepper sprayed someone over blarms.

He was "social" before the trolls. He's just going back to his old ways in a new place and identity.

Whether he's over the trolls or Barb is just losing her grip on him in old age, I'm not sure.

But he does seem happier.
 
Chris is "improving" in the same way that someone would get enough D's on their tests to push their grade average up from an F to a D-. Chris is socializing in a counterproductive and unhealthy way that anyone else would be mocked and criticized for. Chris is socializing in public with the main goal of attracting a lesbian woman when in actuality he should be socializing in public without dressing like a woman with a goal to simply make friends regardless of gender.

However, because the alternative for Chris would simply be staying idle at home in a festering hell home of hoarding and dog shit where he would occasionally spoon with Barb, it is certainly an improvement or at least the lesser of two evils. Chris will unfortunately never truly improve in a way that matters. He may "improve" in little ways but never anything that will make him a productive human being. But honestly, at this point if Chris can even improve in the tiniest way, we'll take it. I think many of us genuinely like and pity Chris and want to see him happy and enjoy his life unlike other lolcows on here like ADF or Nick Bate whom could just jump off a bridge for all anyone cares.
 
I honestly think he's doing better, he's lost weight and is more social. He's actually trying to make money off his Sonichu stuff. He'd be really on track by now if it weren't for blarms thing with the pepper spray then he might be a normal low functioning person by now. But this is Chris, he won't ever be normal by the rest of our standards.
 
Dreamatorium said:
No, he hasn't matured at all. The only step towards progress he has made is ceasing the production of videos. His autism blinds or deadens his sense of shame, social awareness and dulls the notion of what is acceptable, therefore he feels as if he can render his will unto the world at large without any major repercussions. He isn't a recovering individual with social anxiety, he's an autistic individual who changed his stomping ground.


Edit- in regards to making people and meeting friends at the gay bar, he is only accomplishing this by taking advantage (unwittingly) of the patrons' reluctance to be mean or outcast somebody. The people there do not genuinely enjoy his presence in a way which would quantify a friendship, they tolerate it out of pity or a desire to be viewed as the person who is nice to the exceptional individual.
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While I'll agree with you that Chris hasn't matured in the way you describe, I'll contend that @KatsuKitty is correct in pointing out in that he has improved in the ares specifically mentioned above.

Yes, it's very likely that people are being nice to Chris because they're being understanding, tolerant, and not wanting to be mean to the exceptional individual, but it doesn't change the fact that Chris has improved with respect to his confidence and social anxiety issues. The old Chris was a lot more isolated and suspicious/fearful of people he didn't know.

As far as the people at Impulse being 'real' friends, I'm just going to say that they're a lot more real than some of the friends he's had in the past. A lot of people have 'causal' friends who they may see at the bar or certain events but aren't really involved with them beyond that. This isn't unusual.

Chris also seems a lot happier. It's been a while since he ranted about Snyder, Megan, the gal pals - even the blarms. It's also nice that he's finally standing up to Barb.

The real test will be to see how Chris functions when he's in a less comfortable/accommodating space (such as Impulse or a con) where his behavior is more likely to be accepted/tolerated. How will he react if someone calls him out for acting inappropriately? This remains to be seen.
 
Thetan said:
While I'll agree with you that Chris hasn't matured in the way you describe, I'll contend that @KatsuKitty is correct in pointing out in that he has improved in the ares specifically mentioned above.

Yes, it's very likely that people are being nice to Chris because they're being understanding, tolerant, and not wanting to be mean to the exceptional individual, but it doesn't change the fact that Chris has improved with respect to his confidence and social anxiety issues. The old Chris was a lot more isolated and suspicious/fearful of people he didn't know.

As far as the people at Impulse being 'real' friends, I'm just going to say that they're a lot more real than some of the friends he's had in the past. A lot of people have 'causal' friends who they may see at the bar or certain events but aren't really involved with them beyond that. This isn't unusual.

Chris also seems a lot happier. It's been a while since he ranted about Snyder, Megan, the gal pals - even the blarms. It's also nice that he's finally standing up to Barb.

The real test will be to see how Chris functions when he's in a less comfortable/accommodating space (such as Impulse or a con) where his behavior is more likely to be accepted/tolerated. How will he react if someone calls him out for acting inappropriately? This remains to be seen.
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I see your point and the evidence is there to support it, he is in fact getting out despite Barb's harpy talons' attempts at dragging him to the fate of becoming one with the hoard.

In my opinion, Chris has never felt as if he had a place in the social arena because he needed to, like everyone else, construct a personality for *himself*. Think back to his ad-nausem mimicry of cartoons and video games and TV shows; he used to mold his personality strictly around the entertainment mediums he soaked up. On some level, he has always been incapable of forming his own character personality when most people do it unconsciously. Before he came out/realized his potential gender dysphoria, the character he stitched for himself was not socially acceptable. Anywhere. Not even at the fucking game place. Since then, two things changed - Chris' transgender persona coming out of the woodwork and large communities that are built around accepting people with alternative lifestyles. He's still too..retarded to really gel with these people but he hasn't been chased away because these people pride themselves on being tolerant. In my opinion, it has more to do with the type of social arena he finds himself in.

As for your question, I don't know. Maybe he will use his newfound social skills to shit himself and disengage before making himself look like more of a tool if his behavior was questioned. I doubt it though. We'll just have to see
 
While I appreciate the discussion, I feel like only someone blindered by personal animosity towards CWC can dispute she's better off than she used to be.

Is Christine a kooky character? Yes. But now she seems to be a happy kooky character... and being happy is more or less the only metric for success worth taking seriously. All the rest of the bullshit we're told we need -- money, career, relationship-- is nonsense.

I respect, maybe envy, the ovaries it takes to go around Ruckersville looking like a cat lady from outer space. It's a positive facet of that same unusual unselfconsciousness that has often in the past worked against Chris (e.g. attraction signs).

Looking back, am I the only one who thinks Chris' transition to Christine was the major turning point? It's sort of annoying, maybe, but it really seems to be when Chris began experiencing this flowering, leading me to wonder how much of what was holding Chris back was masculinity. I may get the dreaded MISANDRY rating for this, but I can't help seeing a correlation between Chris abandoning "maleness" and becoming happy...
 
lindsayfan said:
While I appreciate the discussion, I feel like only someone blindered by personal animosity towards CWC can dispute she's better off than she used to be.

Is Christine a kooky character? Yes. But now she seems to be a happy kooky character... and being happy is more or less the only metric for success worth taking seriously. All the rest of the bullshit we're told we need -- money, career, relationship-- is nonsense.

I respect, maybe envy, the ovaries it takes to go around Ruckersville looking like a cat lady from outer space. It's a positive facet of that same unusual unselfconsciousness that has often in the past worked against Chris (e.g. attraction signs).

Looking back, am I the only one who thinks Chris' transition to Christine was the major turning point? It's sort of annoying, maybe, but it really seems to be when Chris began experiencing this flowering, leading me to wonder how much of what was holding Chris back was masculinity. I may get the dreaded MISANDRY rating for this, but I can't help seeing a correlation between Chris abandoning "maleness" and becoming happy...
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Back to Tumblr with you.

CWC is only happy for now because he still has a free ride. He won't be able to live this way forever. His :tugboat: won't help him out much when he finally has to take up responsibility after blarb drops. That's just how the world works. You work so you can be happy and live comfortably. Without a source of income, a person just survives. You think CWC would be as happy if he had to give up legos or his electronics in order to pay a bill? Money isn't everything, but it is a big deal if you want a comfortable life.

Also I haven't seen much animosity towards CWC lately. It's mostly ass pats for oh my god, not macing anyone, threatening to mace, or destroying store property for 7 or so months. Not to mention he is always in the right in his own mind. Which makes it worse.

You're losing sight of what CWC is: A mentally ill manbaby that can't face the fact of life. Life isn't just about being a happy kooky character.
 
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Chris's trolls, PVCC in particular, were always the interesting part of the story. Chris himself brought a unique flavour to things, but ultimately any one of several internet weirdos could have replaced him at the centre of the trolling schemes and the basic result would have been the same.

So now the high-intensity trolling has finished, it's little wonder that Chris is becoming more normal.
 
Everyone tries to act like Chris is getting "better." He isn't. He's still a gigantic fucking faggot.

Wow, Chris is a belly dancing tranny that spergs about Sonic and makes shitty Nintendo toys that he loses money on while he hangs out at gay bars! He's practically a real person! He's just like you and me!

You're all gay and should be ashamed of yourselves.
 
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Doc Cassidy said:
You're all gay and should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Nooo, Christine is getting better! I mean, she lives off her mom but at least she's happy! She cosplays and stuff now! Look, here's a picture of her talking to some people-

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Oh wait
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Maybe. I just hope he's happy enough that he'll use that donation money to continue Sonichu. Maybe he'll use it to buy a 152-piece set of crayons, cuz lord knows he'll need em.
 
lindsayfan said:
While I appreciate the discussion, I feel like only someone blindered by personal animosity towards CWC can dispute she's better off than she used to be.

Is Christine a kooky character? Yes. But now she seems to be a happy kooky character... and being happy is more or less the only metric for success worth taking seriously. All the rest of the bullshit we're told we need -- money, career, relationship-- is nonsense.

I respect, maybe envy, the ovaries it takes to go around Ruckersville looking like a cat lady from outer space. It's a positive facet of that same unusual unselfconsciousness that has often in the past worked against Chris (e.g. attraction signs).

Looking back, am I the only one who thinks Chris' transition to Christine was the major turning point? It's sort of annoying, maybe, but it really seems to be when Chris began experiencing this flowering, leading me to wonder how much of what was holding Chris back was masculinity. I may get the dreaded MISANDRY rating for this, but I can't help seeing a correlation between Chris abandoning "maleness" and becoming happy...
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Is Chris entirely happy though? Bare in mind that we only see little snippets of Chris' life right now. Just because he got tired of moaning on Facebook about how lonely and unfulfilled his life was it doesn't mean that on the whole he doesn't still feel lonely. Sure he went to a convention, has been that creepy guy who stands on the periphery at a nightclub who you avoid starting conversation with and is comfortable in himself but that doesn't mean overall he absolutely loves his life right now.

Chris still lives with the suffocating influence that is Barb and is largely shunned by everybody else and to me it almost seems like his recent online behaviour is just him burying his head under the sand to avoid facing up to reality. A bit like how he referred to 'out of context' connotations that we could think of from him saying trolls needed to get a life. If anybody is an ace at pretending his life is amazing and anybody who disagrees is a troll then Chris is.
 
Not any better than in the old days like when he went to concerts and made some sort of weird dancing moves while creeping on young girls, or being in the bar and getting the Long Island iced tea.

He has no IRL friends anymore, and I think he still honestly thinks the TRUE & HONEST lesbians at Impulse are not being nice to him because he is pitiable/they are being friendly but flirting with him and sees them as potential mates. You may think he's getting better, but one of these days, Impulse just might be the new GaME PlaCE.
 
Xarpho said:
Not any better than in the old days like when he went to concerts and made some sort of weird dancing moves while creeping on young girls, or being in the bar and getting the Long Island iced tea.

He has no IRL friends anymore, and I think he still honestly thinks the TRUE & HONEST lesbians at Impulse are not being nice to him because he is pitiable/they are being friendly but flirting with him and sees them as potential mates. You may think he's getting better, but one of these days, Impulse just might be the new GaME PlaCE.
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I would be inclined to agree if it wasn't for the fact that this time Chris is hanging around with adults who are all huge on tolerance and acceptance. In the Game Place days he was chimping out in front of children, being subtly racist a few times and generally being a nuisance in a place of buisness, that's not even including the Megan stuff. In a quiet, small shop where the emphasis is on kids with adults hanging around his behaviour is seen as a lot worse. At Impulse he's in a nightclub for adults, he isn't exactly a heavy drinker so theres not really drunken outbursts and his behaviour isn't actively detrimental to everyone trying to enjoy themselves there. Now if he pulls a Catherine and tries to motorboat someone against their will it'll be a different story but for the most part I think he's found the perfect environment where he can be as eccentric and goofy as he likes and it legitimately isn't bothering anybody. And for that I say good for him, if he's enjoying himself without hurting anyone else then whats the harm, we might lose our signature cow but I'd rather he get better than have his life spiral even further for the sake of a few chuckles. We have plenty of other goobers to laugh at now and letting this one go wouldn't be a bad thing IMO, he had a good run.
 
My two cents.

Everyone's yardsticks for measuring "improvement","happiness", and "normalcy" are different. What may be a normal happy day for me may be hellish for you and vice versa- and at the end of the day it's only the markings on Christine's yardstick that matter to Christine. By all accounts, she's socializing more, moving some bank in, and happily sperging out at the club and and a Con or two. Hell, she even started and completed a physical exercise class. All of these are good things. As slow as you may think she's moving, she's still lapping the bastards on the couch.

I'm not too worried about the whole Gamestop/mace deal. We live in a country where people regularly shoot the fuck out of each other for having the wrong skin color & get away with it. With her "unique" mental perspective (and dat handy Autism card!) I don't think anything serious will ever come of it. As continuance after continuance has proved.

What I am kinda worried about, and honestly speaking here, is Christine maybe inadvertently finding herself in a bad situation at the bar. Admittedly, the LBGT crowd is very tolerant of oddballs- but bars are bars and jackasses are jackasses- especially when they have a skin-full of booze. Just because you're LBGT doesn't mean you're a saint. As still socially inexperienced as she is, I can see several scenarios where she could end up in real bad trouble, real quick.
 
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Lalala said:
I would be inclined to agree if it wasn't for the fact that this time Chris is hanging around with adults who are all huge on tolerance and acceptance. In the Game Place days he was chimping out in front of children, being subtly racist a few times and generally being a nuisance in a place of buisness, that's not even including the Megan stuff. In a quiet, small shop where the emphasis is on kids with adults hanging around his behaviour is seen as a lot worse. At Impulse he's in a nightclub for adults, he isn't exactly a heavy drinker so theres not really drunken outbursts and his behaviour isn't actively detrimental to everyone trying to enjoy themselves there. Now if he pulls a Catherine and tries to motorboat someone against their will it'll be a different story but for the most part I think he's found the perfect environment where he can be as eccentric and goofy as he likes and it legitimately isn't bothering anybody. And for that I say good for him, if he's enjoying himself without hurting anyone else then whats the harm, we might lose our signature cow but I'd rather he get better than have his life spiral even further for the sake of a few chuckles. We have plenty of other goobers to laugh at now and letting this one go wouldn't be a bad thing IMO, he had a good run.
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We don't know what Chris is really like at those clubs, and the lack of any friends suggest that Chris is just being by himself perhaps nursing a drink (which would be pretty sad, frankly) or acting like a obnoxious buffoon consistently, which he would normally have a lot of leeway in, but as with Phil, everyone has their limits, and getting banned or beat up is entirely a possible scenario.
 
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