South Africa Collapses - Another one bites the dust

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I find Africa to be such a disappointment, in the sense that it has all the tools to be a great and prosperous continent but keeps getting fucked over by foreign intervention and in turn fucking themselves over after its all done and sorted. It's the same in a lot of colonized countries, foreigners fucked shit up and left without putting anything in place to keep the systems running and left it all in the hands of stupid and corrupt oligarchs that proceed to run the country to the ground over decades to come.

Rhodesia is an example of a country that had great potential, able to keep going in spite of embargoes and shit. All it took was some fucking commie poison spread amongst the black population to fuck everything up, and the globalists finished it off cause what? Whites in charge was a bad look? Maybe my grasp of history isn't the greatest, but I'm fairly certain Rhodesia was not even close to how bad South Africa was in terms of racial inequality and prosperity at the time. Now Zimbabwe is a fucking joke, one of the poorest nations in Africa with literally nothing to show for it.

I'm not saying that Africa should be under white rule, but they should have had the fucking decency to finish the job. They brought a country that was comparatively stuck in the stone age and accelerated their society to match their own and just up and left. It'd be like if aliens just fucked around on earth for a few years and space age tech and told us to go nuts. I guarantee that the earth would be a smoking crater within a decade.
 
Dom Cruise said:
What are the odds that this isn't going to lead to a race war in South Africa? If it's not a full on race war already?
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But this has nothing to do with race.
The golden neckbeard said:
Imagine how nervous you must feel as a white or pajeet or any minority in that shithole right now
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Well if you're in KZN or Gauteng maybe, and not even in the entirety of those provinces.
Meat Target said:
Ramaphosa wasted no time in at least trying to mobilize the tard wranglers.
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Cyril was responsible for forcing Zuma into retirement (literally kicking him out of the presidency early) and then took over his job. There's no love-loss between them, in fact Zuma supporters are probably a threat to him. The reason Zuma was even capable of being investigated is because he no longer had the protection of the ANC.

american_amadan said:
I'm amazed by the history of South Africa. It's truly like nothing else, it's surprising it lasted this long.
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Which South Africa? Apartheid ended in 1994. Apartheid went from 1948 to 1994.

american_amadan said:
"Whitey bad" only goes so far to ease tensions, especially now that everyone with a brain in SA are siding with the Whites
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Apartheid is used when questions are asked about service delivery, lacking infrastructure, and just generally poor management and corruption.
As the years go on though you start hearing less and less about how it's Apartheid's fault that the government can't do it's job properly because as the years go on they have less and less excuse to have not fixed it.

Iceland Heavy said:
watching literally an entire country be completely looted by its own people
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It's not the entire country... it's Western Cape is fine, it's just the Zulu stronghold of the KZN and that then spilled over into Gauteng.

PuffyGroundCloud said:
will Boer rise again?
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Why? Because black people are loot and burning down largely black areas of the country? I guess they'll be slightly inconvenienced because they need to drive a bit further to get to a store that hasn't been looted.

The golden neckbeard said:
Would be ironic if the first postwoke ethnostate emerged in south africa.
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Riots aren't because of wokeness or race, it's because Zuma is a Zulu and the Zulus see his arrest as a attack on them as a tribe. Then you add a bunch of people who want to loot and make trouble and then you end up with this nonsense.
NickDigger said:
And you're acting like the diminishing white population who've been subjected to open season by the ANC during and after Apartheid haven't been subjected to that same corruption, you spoiled American mongoloid.
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To be fair blacks are suffering more under the corrupt government.
You'd much rather want to be a average white person in South Africa than a average black person.
Now there's many reasons for this like historic inequality (not helped by government not spending on infrastructure and education), a general attitude that government should gibs them jobs and a better life (while government isn't even creating the opportunity for people to achieve it themselves).
Affirmative action doesn't really solve the problem of black unemployment, because a company might be willing to hire a less qualified black person over a more qualified white person, but if all the people sending in their resumes are white then what is a company just suppose to not hire someone? Or what hire someone for an STEM job who barely finished high school?

Max's Severed Head said:
The existence of South African cities and infrastructure demonstrates that all of the problems in Africa aren't the result of a totally-uninhabitable environment, but rather the unfixable stupidity of the indigenous people.
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Most of that infrastructure was built by white people... the big problem with South African infrastructure is that the Apartheid government built infrastructure to support white people which were only around 10% of the population. When apartheid ended suddenly this infrastructure had to support a significantly larger number of people. A good example is the power infrastructure.
The problem is that the post-Apartheid government didn't expand the infrastructure, and now we have things like power-outages every single time a generate falls over because there's barely enough power as it is.

Clint Torez said:
In fact I think China has already tried and failed to build up anything in this godforsaken continent.
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China has built a shit load in Africa. China is probably one of the major providers of infrastructure and new developments on the continent. It's all part of this long term plan of China's to get a lot of additional influence over Africa by getting African countries in debt with them and creating lucrative support and maintenance agreements.

Roybertitos said:
I'm not saying that Africa should be under white rule, but they should have had the fucking decency to finish the job. They brought a country that was comparatively stuck in the stone age and accelerated their society to match their own and just up and left.
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South Africa is actually one of the few African countries that was colonised. White people stuck around. Plenty of other African countries had at most a port city, where Europeans could sail in do some trading and them leave. There was no job to finish because those weren't colonies, those countries weren't colonised, they just had trading hubs setup.
It's true that in doing so European countries completely changed the economies, politics and lives of the people there but at the end of the day they just came to Africa traded supplies and left. Hell most Europeans couldn't stay long or make meaningful in-roads into Africa because of the malaria and yellow fever (no not that kind), hell Africa even has horse flu despite lacking horses, so even if you didn't catch proto-ebola it was still a bitch to get around since all your horses died out.
 
Roybertitos said:
I find Africa to be such a disappointment, in the sense that it has all the tools to be a great and prosperous continent but keeps getting fucked over by foreign intervention and in turn fucking themselves over after its all done and sorted. It's the same in a lot of colonized countries, foreigners fucked shit up and left without putting anything in place to keep the systems running and left it all in the hands of stupid and corrupt oligarchs that proceed to run the country to the ground over decades to come.

Rhodesia is an example of a country that had great potential, able to keep going in spite of embargoes and shit. All it took was some fucking commie poison spread amongst the black population to fuck everything up, and the globalists finished it off cause what? Whites in charge was a bad look? Maybe my grasp of history isn't the greatest, but I'm fairly certain Rhodesia was not even close to how bad South Africa was in terms of racial inequality and prosperity at the time. Now Zimbabwe is a fucking joke, one of the poorest nations in Africa with literally nothing to show for it.

I'm not saying that Africa should be under white rule, but they should have had the fucking decency to finish the job. They brought a country that was comparatively stuck in the stone age and accelerated their society to match their own and just up and left. It'd be like if aliens just fucked around on earth for a few years and space age tech and told us to go nuts. I guarantee that the earth would be a smoking crater within a decade.
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The amount of wasted potential mankind has is mind boggling, there's no excuse for why we aren't living in a utopia in the 21st century for everyone, black or white.

I think where it went wrong was two things, Marxism and the World Wars, Karl Marx is one of the most evil men who ever lived and profoundly set back the human race and the World Wars did enough lasting damage to basically slowly, but surely, be our downfall.

Basically we were given the wonderful gift of technology but we chose to use it to make weapons of war instead of tools of betterment and we sealed our fate.
 
guidmaker said:
Maybe then you should just stop with the extremely toxic nonsensical BS 'colonialism is to blame' argument. Every nation was a colony at some point, the only difference is how shitty and retarded the indigenous population is.
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And, occasionally, how shitty the colonizer was. SA is bad, but imagine how bad it would be if it had been a Belgian colony.

Although, having said that, it may be better off. The Belgians wouldn't have built anything worthwhile enough that would have inspired millions of ghouls to migrate south.
 
guidmaker said:
Maybe then you should just stop with the extremely toxic nonsensical BS 'colonialism is to blame' argument. Every nation was a colony at some point, the only difference is how shitty and retarded the indigenous population is.
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Well it's just my opinion, I think colonization isn't to blame for a country's success or failure but I think that more successful countries that were colonized had some kind of guidance following colonization. Living in a colonized country myself, I can see that there were benefits culturally as well as economically, but the downside is that once we were left to our own devices nothing really changed. We were under new management except it was our own people in charge now and they enriched themselves and today shits not great.

So you're right in that respect, colonized nations fall and rise as a result of how retarded its people are, I just think that colonizers have the responsibility to not just abandon the country after drastically changing it's systems. Europe spent centuries refining their political systems through blood and sweat and imported them to drastically different nations and expected them to adapt in decades. I just think it's not surprising that these places end up collapsing into themselves, but when they do that's mostly on them.

But hey, that's just my uninformed perspective that I wanted to discuss. I'm prolly wrong in a lot of ways, but i can't talk about this shit openly anywhere else without being labeled as some kind of bigot so here we are. I welcome anyone to call me a dumb faggot and pick apart my opinion, it's how I become more informed.
 
guidmaker said:
Maybe then you should just stop with the extremely toxic nonsensical BS 'colonialism is to blame' argument. Every nation was a colony at some point, the only difference is how shitty and retarded the indigenous population is
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i mean... they’re not entirely wrong tho. While I always hold natives at least partially accountable, a badly organized decolonisation process can and will fuck things up.
 
Null said:
If you're white and living in Africa you're a retard.
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I don't blame a lot of Boers for wanting to stick it out. It's their ancestral homeland for almost 400 years. Same with the Cape Coloreds (and the Coloreds in general), the mulattos descended from Boer-African (mostly Khoisan) marriage. They don't fit into the Bantu or Khoisan or any other ethnic group, they're a totally native people who emerged in that land.

South Africa should balkanize, since the ANC wants Xhosa-based tribalism, there's a lot of Zulu tribalism in KwaZulu Natal often opposed to the ANC, and the rest of the country is also tribalism of various sorts, except for maybe Cape Province which has a nice mix of Boers, Anglos, and Colored and seems to be mostly peaceful.
 
I (Don't) Have A Gun said:
China has built a shit load in Africa. China is probably one of the major providers of infrastructure and new developments on the continent. It's all part of this long term plan of China's to get a lot of additional influence over Africa by getting African countries in debt with them and creating lucrative support and maintenance agreements.
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But if and when China face an economic implosion (and I don't count the possible collapse of the 3GD), what'll happen to Chinese influence?

Save the Loli said:
I don't blame a lot of Boers for wanting to stick it out. It's their ancestral homeland for almost 400 years. Same with the Cape Coloreds (and the Coloreds in general), the mulattos descended from Boer-African (mostly Khoisan) marriage. They don't fit into the Bantu or Khoisan or any other ethnic group, they're a totally native people who emerged in that land.

South Africa should balkanize, since the ANC wants Xhosa-based tribalism, there's a lot of Zulu tribalism in KwaZulu Natal often opposed to the ANC, and the rest of the country is also tribalism of various sorts, except for maybe Cape Province which has a nice mix of Boers, Anglos, and Colored and seems to be mostly peaceful.
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And thanks to them. the Western Cape hadn't fallen under the control of the ANC who wanted to bring more blacks there and some Coloured aren't agree with that.

And there's some tensions between blacks and Coloureds as well.
 
Return of the Freaker said:
Please, that's an exercise in futility. The moment any South African Rainbow Nation Kangz™️ get hurt by ebil nazi whites and nonwhite white supremacists, the (((media))) and various (((governments))) and (((NGOs))) will all cry bloody murder about neo-apartheid nazi militias murdering peaceful black protestors and Grandpa Joe may even offer a few drones to help answer the Boer question.
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"The video of civilians of Indian descent shooting at Africans is worrying and must be investigated by law enforcement agencies. We can not allow lawlessness in our Country. Those found to have taken law into their hands must be severely punished."

That's from a anc pol, seems to be some kind of regional mayoral position or something.




Not a word about the rioting
 
Brahma said:
"The video of civilians of Indian descent shooting at Africans is worrying and must be investigated by law enforcement agencies. We can not allow lawlessness in our Country. Those found to have taken law into their hands must be severely punished."

That's from a anc pol, seems to be some kind of regional mayoral position or something.




Not a word about the rioting
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What would this guy have them do if there's lawlessness in the streets? Just sit around and allow the roving masses to just tear their lives apart? Like it or not, the social contract has basically been dissolved in South Africa, if the state cannot afford it's citizens the base amount of security it becomes necessary to take it into their own hands.
 
Harlay de Champvallon said:
I though AIDS came about through Frenchman sexing an ape.
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A very promiscious gay Frenchman was the patient zero for a lot of the 1980's infections but he didn't catch it from an ape, and it had been around long, long before him.
The golden neckbeard said:
I can sort of believe it was always going around on some level and probably came from some idiot eating ape sushi and that the era of promiscuity and homosexuality is what caused its exponential growth
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Yes, but the initial boost that gave it enough critical mass to grow exponentially instead of sputtering and dying out through lack of infection vectors was white people bringing sleeping sickness vaccines to Africa and not bothering with safe injection practices. From that point it probably had enough momentum to remain a permanent worldwide epidemic, at least in our underclasses, even if we kept to 1950's levels of social morality.
 
Null said:
If you're white and living in Africa you're a retard.
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It may be quixotic and illogical, but white South Africans stay because it’s their home and all they’ve known for generations. You keeping KF up despite free speech on the internet being almost certainly doomed is also quixotic and illogical, yet you still do it.
 
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Give them the Nika riots treatment
 
Terrorist said:
It may be quixotic and illogical, but white South Africans stay because it’s their home and all they’ve known for generations. You keeping KF up despite free speech on the internet being almost certainly doomed is also quixotic and illogical, yet you still do it.
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Africa is different. I understand that the Zulu came after the Dutch and English settlers. I don't care. Africa is the dark continent. It's where black people live. They will kill you. Nobody will support South Africa against them. Leave.
 
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