US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
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Meat Target said:
Chipman's confirmation vote is Thursday, I think. Must be trying to drum up support. Can they filibuster that, too?
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What bothers me is that Chipman's hearings have been a total shit show, and he will get a lot of votes to confirm him regardless if he wins or loses. It really goes to show how much of a circus these hearings are when they have no impact on the people voting.
 
Gehenna said:
To expand this a bit:

Joe Manchin (And Sinema) hold an immense amount of power right now as they are the make or break votes for the democrats. This is a problem for the Democrats as Joe Manchin is a Blue Dog Democrat who has to represent a fairly red area. Now, Joe basically doesn't give a fuck about federal-level politics at this point and has been angling towards a governorship for a while now. So pissing off his voters is a bad idea. But, if he sticks to that hard he will face some rather nasty backlash from the Democrats he'd rather avoid.

He has to play both sides.

So, he suggested a series of amendments he thinks would get him able to vote for the voting bill, and proposes a 'compromise' to reduce the filibuster down to 55 votes rather than 60. These are all 'reasonable' compromises that he knows will have exactly 0 chance of passing. Reducing the filibuster to 55 solves nothing, you'd still need 5 republicans to all break ranks and vote for a bill and the usual count of solid RINOs is 4, with 5 more soft RINOs who are very, VERY anti-Trump (put a pin in this). So, it basically would do nothing, and that means the voting bill -will- be filibustered. This frees up some basic strategy.

1: Propose 'reasonable' amendments to mollify the Democrats.
2: Then wait for the inevitable filibuster.
3: Grandstand about how tragic this is, but do absolutely nothing to resolve it.

Aaaand done. Keep that going indefinitely. All Joe Manchin has to do at this stage is continually vote for the bill to move to debates on his proposed amendments, and watch as it's inevitably filibustered. He has to make no further moves to secure his position because it's out of his hands. The only way to pass it is to abolish the filibusters. This brings us to the pin.

Manchin's proposed amendment to that is the weak link. Though he can stand firm on it with Sinema and the other two non-vocal bluedogs backing him. None of them have a good reason to change things. Even if the voting bill passed to secure their position, there is no guarantee it'd survive legal scrutiny. In fact there's a good chance it'd fail due to being rather explicitly unconstitutional. The only way to shore that up would be court stacking. So in order to sell this to the blue dogs, the Democrats would need to make the case for out and out corruption to them and... well, that's gonna be a hard fucking sell. Its a nonstarter.

So we have a case where the filibuster thing won't pass, and thus Manchin gets to do fuck and all now to retain his position. The only way this goes south is -potentially- if Trump runs. And this is likely why Trump hasn't thrown his hat in the ring just yet. Those 5 Trump Hating RINOs who voted to impeach him could prove decisive if a motion is made to reduce the number of filibuster votes from 60 to 55. Thus, Trump is remaining silent until after the mid terms.

The plan is fairly simply on the Republican side, Stall like mad till 2022, hopefully regain the Senate since the Democrats have failed to enshrine their bullshittery and without a strong anti-Trump sentiment they can't rig things elsewise. With the Senate under solid Republican control, the whole thing is dead in the water and Trump can announce he'll run the day McConnel gets the gavel.
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Do you think Manchin will renege on the filibuster if the DNC promise that if he helps put the main component (HR1) of the fraud machine in place, they will use said machine to help set his ass down in the governor seat?

Also reminder Sinema got in dubiously
 
gaystoner said:
I wonder if they will ever talk about how a majority of shootings in this country happen because of handguns and not the buzzword friendly AR15
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They never let facts get in the way of the narrative. And they've given up on banning handgun ownship, now that it's codified in Heller.
 
gaystoner said:
I wonder if they will ever talk about how a majority of shootings in this country happen because of handguns and not the buzzword friendly AR15
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Every country with 'common sense gun laws' does put pretty draconian restrictions on handguns so don't give them ideas. They were also originally going to be an NFA item back in 1934.
 
NeroRisotto said:
Do you think Manchin will renege on the filibuster if the DNC promise that if he helps put the main component (HR1) of the fraud machine in place, they will use said machine to help set his ass down in the governor seat?

Also reminder Sinema got in dubiously
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No. Keep in mind the basic idiom, "Everyone is the hero in their own story". People run on more than a sociopathic want, they wish to feel like the hero, they wish to believe themselves morally right. Selling out the whole country to get a governorship would be hard to stomach as "I did the right thing" without some SERIOUS pretzel logic. Logic Manchin has not indicated he is inclined towards as if he were he'd not be a holdout to begin with.

As for Sinema... I'm inclined to believe she personally was not aware of the exact details of how she won. There are very few Stacey Abrams in politics, those who had a direct hand in the corruption that got them on board. Most benefit from systems put in place 'to their benefit' without their say-so. After all, you don't want to tell every new up and comer the dirty secrets, lest they prove to have a conscience and spill the beans.
 
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FunPosting101 said:
Be ready for the Dems to try again with some watered down version of the bill, they know their electoral chances are slim now in any state without "fortification" measures in place.
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Joe Manchin's proposal was the watered-down one. Hell, it's one I could even have gotten behind... if a state had tried to pass it. It's no business, explicitly according to the constitution, of the feds as to how states run elections.
 
Gehenna said:
Joe Manchin's proposal was the watered-down one. Hell, it's one I could even have gotten behind... if a state had tried to pass it. It's no business, explicitly according to the constitution, of the feds as to how states run elections.
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Yeah, to me this would have or at least should have been shot down by the Supreme Court, but you can never really trust how they will rule but it seems blatantly unconstitutional.
 
Gehenna said:
In short, indoctrination. It convinces you of the woke ideology, an ideology that by design is meant to completely short circuit critical thinking.
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They've lost. The opposition is spreading, where it counts, and steadily gaining strength. The "woke" people overplayed their hand. Now they're catching shit from all sides, and their media cannot deflect enough of that shit. I enjoyed watching the "woke" Chief of Naval Operations squirming in his seat recently when questioned by a Congressman about one of the books on the Chief of Naval Operations' reading list. Man couldn't defend the book at all, despite claiming to have read it. The admiral denied the Navy was "woke" or weak. When you have to publicly deny such things, something is wrong.
 
ZMOT said:
nah man, he needs to win. I want to see how some dude shits on every other top female athlete from other countries and they have to sit there and take it for the sake of inclusivity, while smugly politicizing an event that's about peaceful competition and representing your country. imagine being china, russia, or any other country in that moment where that shit doesn't fly. imagine the optics of that shit happening on live tv.
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You have made a VERY good point. Until I read your post I wanted that turd to lose, but now hope he wins, defeating Chinese and Russian women. Putin and Xi will shit and likely do something about it. But ya know, it sure does suck when you need to be able to count on foreign leaders to to the right thing since your "President" hasn't a single fucking clue.
 
JosephStalin said:
They've lost. The opposition is spreading, where it counts, and steadily gaining strength. The "woke" people overplayed their hand. Now they're catching shit from all sides, and their media cannot deflect enough of that shit. I enjoyed watching the "woke" Chief of Naval Operations squirming in his seat recently when questioned by a Congressman about one of the books on the Chief of Naval Operations' reading list. Man couldn't defend the book at all, despite claiming to have read it. The admiral denied the Navy was "woke" or weak. When you have to publicly deny such things, something is wrong.
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A public denial is the same thing as an admission in the eyes of the public. That someone was forced to deny something is viewed as a de facto proof that there is at least a kernel of truth. Ironically, the left pioneered using that fact.
 
Terrifik said:
Like said next to hitler & stalin trump.
When trump dies his videos will played by big 3 for profit like hitler.
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Nah, when Trump dies there will be a whole lot of press about how "Trumpism is dead" and how it will be "time for the Republican party to move away from Trump". They won't celebrate his death, they'll attempt to use it to their advantage.
 
Like I've previously said...Tuckers been good. With him name dropping Alex Jones leads me to believe he has a long form interview either planned or with a date set with Alex. by 2022 I expect we will see Alex Jones appear as a guest on Tucker's show

 
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