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this is sperging a bit, but i honestly wonder if stonewall/the pride movement hadn't happened we wouldn't of had the abysmal response to the AIDs crisis.
previous to it, the mattachine society etc organized orderly public pickets, with an intentional dress code, because the message they were trying to send is "see, we're just normal 50's folk like you." the same way riots has always done jack-shit all for black rights (see, sum total actually accomplished after rodney king versus previous the meticulously pre-emptively arranged, planned, and executed montgomery bus boycotts)
then pride, and the sexed up parades, and the "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" approach. sure, it made them feel wonderfully valid. but what did it actually accomplish for gay people? a narrative that they were deranged sex-freaks whose marination in AIDs was only their just due.
fucking will & grace's sanitized "we're just normal 90's folk like you! *canned laughter*" approach did more for gay acceptance than that ever did, and the "we want to marry, just like you!" campaign approach was a smash-hit. alienating yourself from the norm should be your right, because who the fuck should care, but it's a dangerous game and it doesn't and never has fucking worked for getting the rest of the milleu to accept you back in.
so yeah, tbh if they'd gone hard on the mattachine modesty route instead of wasting the 70's on the pride mentality, maybe the 80's wouldn't have been the fucking horrorshow that killed an entire generation of gays while the impassive public looked on. acceptance only happened when we all got more sexed up and weirder.
and now you have the troonacy, and the demand that no matter how deviant and deranged you are in public you are owed unquestioning acceptance and support... again, i think it's gonna hit gay rights when the pendulum swings. that's the cost of the trans parasite. sucks.
then pride, and the sexed up parades, and the "we're here, we're queer, get used to it" approach. sure, it made them feel wonderfully valid. but what did it actually accomplish for gay people? a narrative that they were deranged sex-freaks whose marination in AIDs was only their just due.
fucking will & grace's sanitized "we're just normal 90's folk like you! *canned laughter*" approach did more for gay acceptance than that ever did, and the "we want to marry, just like you!" campaign approach was a smash-hit. alienating yourself from the norm should be your right, because who the fuck should care, but it's a dangerous game and it doesn't and never has fucking worked for getting the rest of the milleu to accept you back in.
so yeah, tbh if they'd gone hard on the mattachine modesty route instead of wasting the 70's on the pride mentality, maybe the 80's wouldn't have been the fucking horrorshow that killed an entire generation of gays while the impassive public looked on. acceptance only happened when we all got more sexed up and weirder.
and now you have the troonacy, and the demand that no matter how deviant and deranged you are in public you are owed unquestioning acceptance and support... again, i think it's gonna hit gay rights when the pendulum swings. that's the cost of the trans parasite. sucks.
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