#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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Captain Manning said:
"Uh oh! Pussy whipped! Beta! Ah ha hahaha!"

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Pilule Noire said:
The thing is, Jeff Hicks pretty much did Stealing Solo on the encouragement of Frog, during the days when funds were being raised for such future masterpieces as Brand and the Cridious one and the Lady Alchemy one. Not sure what happened but he never really joined up with CG despite doing that comic kind of in parallel. He never promoted it as CG or joined the 'creator network'.
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If that's the case it was good advice from Frog - the second printing for Stealing Solo has actually outdone the first one by almost $20,000 despite having an art style that looks like a cross between Ctrl-Alt-Del and WikiHow tutorials while the fulfillment for the first campaign being one of the biggest debacles in crowdfunded comics. Just in time too by the looks of it.

Really, Stealing Solo's existence disproves the idea that there was ever a talent barrier or lack of interest in the Findom Menace audience for an alternative to Disney-produced content. Again, their leaders simply didn't want to because monetized griping about LucasFilms was the most direct path to money.
 
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Mister Dongs said:
If that's the case it was good advice from Frog - the second printing for Stealing Solo has actually outdone the first one by almost $20,000 despite having an art style that looks like a cross between Ctrl-Alt-Del and WikiHow tutorials while the fulfillment for the first one being one of the biggest debacles in crowdfunded comics. Just in time too by the looks of it.

Really, Stealing Solo's existence disproves the idea that there was ever a talent barrier or lack of interest in the Findom Menace audience for an alternative to Disney-produced content. Again, their leaders simply didn't want to because monetized griping about LucasFilms was the most direct path to money.
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Didn’t Disney cease and desist the first book? Or was there another screw up too
 
Mister Dongs said:
If that's the case it was good advice from Frog - the second printing for Stealing Solo has actually outdone the first one by almost $20,000 despite having an art style that looks like a cross between Ctrl-Alt-Del and WikiHow tutorials while the fulfillment for the first campaign being one of the biggest debacles in crowdfunded comics. Just in time too by the looks of it.

Really, Stealing Solo's existence disproves the idea that there was ever a talent barrier or lack of interest in the Findom Menace audience for an alternative to Disney-produced content. Again, their leaders simply didn't want to because monetized griping about LucasFilms was the most direct path to money.
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I believe a lot of the FM people wanted to be the next big geek media channel and found out that outrage brings clicks.
So, a lot of it is performative and forced. I get the impression that Grifts and Gaymers thought they had large enough platforms to leap into the mainstream, but Zack Snyder dickslapping them on a livestream broke them and made them realize that they have hit a peak and will never outgrow their Drumpf antiSJW niche.

Ethan, Anna and the guy from WCB are probably the ones who cared about Star Wars, while Jeremy was a carpet bagger doing 6 minute clickbait videos with takes that made Mundane Matt feel like a philosopher.
 
WhimsicalTrolli said:
He was simping so hard for jessi after that rambling pro choice video saying "SEe We AcCePT AlL OpInioNs".
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I remember seeing a lot of videos pop up of him simping for Merry too a year or two ago. And didn't Anna start with G&G as well?

Between that and the Snyder shit it'd be funny if someone started portraying Jeremy as a glowie who was out to sabotage the movement from the start lol
 
Mister Dongs said:
If that's the case it was good advice from Frog - the second printing for Stealing Solo has actually outdone the first one by almost $20,000 despite having an art style that looks like a cross between Ctrl-Alt-Del and WikiHow tutorials while the fulfillment for the first campaign being one of the biggest debacles in crowdfunded comics. Just in time too by the looks of it.

Really, Stealing Solo's existence disproves the idea that there was ever a talent barrier or lack of interest in the Findom Menace audience for an alternative to Disney-produced content. Again, their leaders simply didn't want to because monetized griping about LucasFilms was the most direct path to money.
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That and they were highjacking it for their own pursuits.

Jeremy Griggs, Midnights Edge, Gary, all were YT before the fandom menace stuff. It simply got them viewers and helped juice their channels subscriber count. To be fair, Ethan didn't produce fan films or the stuff people are talking about either. The sole difference between Frog and those others is his business venture he was grifting was a comic book instead of a YT channel like the others.
 
Rupin said:
no and neither did Harrison Ford, both of whom several anti cgers contacted in an effort to see that happen. Both Disney and Ford recognized the book for what it is, a lame parody.
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Thanks for the info! For some reason I thought it wasn’t released due to that and not the creator failing.
 
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TiredAndInked said:
Thanks for the info! For some reason I thought it wasn’t released due to that and not the creator failing.
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it was realeased, and it got a shit ton of bad reviews. Frog had to go in total damage control when people saw what they were getting. Jeff went the cheapest route possible and used a printer that put out magazines and sales advertisements.

here is an article from Bleeding Cool that can tell you how bad it really was.
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$52,000 Crowdfunded Star Wars Parody Comic That Shipped Without Packaging

Stealing Solo: A Captain's Parody is a comic book parody of the Star Wars: Episode VIII, The Last Jedi, intended as a critique of what the creators call
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Mister Dongs said:
Really, Stealing Solo's existence disproves the idea that there was ever a talent barrier or lack of interest in the Findom Menace audience for an alternative to Disney-produced content. Again, their leaders simply didn't want to because monetized griping about LucasFilms was the most direct path to money.
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Maybe, but if we're comparing the two "movements", CG was actively attempting to make alternative content from the beginning and TFM was founded on autists crying about Star Wars. Any ideas they may have had about producing their own content were secondary (at best) to keeping up the monetized griping. I'm still of the opinion that there's not much talent within TFM, not necessarily a complete lack. I'd say Jeff Hicks is as much of a "leader" as TFM has and he managed to make something. Anna has done a couple of things. I've yet to see any evidence that any of the other TFMers have any talent aside from reading superchats and bitching and I'm still pretty sure this plays more of a role than them just being lazy (which I'm also sure is a big factor, as the problems with the first Stealing Solo's fulfillment showed). If any of these guys thought they could pull in $75k doing anything they were actually capable of, I'd think they'd at least try it just for the shekels. As I said before, I truly believe Jeff and Anna are it as far as TFM regulars with any talent or skill (some) people would pay for.

Lack of interest in TFMs audience isn't a metric I'd really considered. The second printing of Stealing Solo did make more money than the first but did it with 140 fewer backers. IMO, the people backing Stealing Solo are probably a mixture of regular CG backers and flat out Anna simps. Stealing Solo was a moderately successful crowdfund by CG standards, despite Jeff's World Class Bullshitters channel having around 30k more subscribers than EVS. The first one making just $50k despite a heavy push from all TFM channels and CG kind of reflects the level of interest the audience has for alternative content produced by the outrage crew. I think TFM's audience is more interested in having their superchats read on camera than they are in Jeff Hick's amateur artwork, even if they do like Anna's allegedly fake tits.

If anyone in that circle could do a more successful crowdfund, I'd bet Gary could. His channel has more subs than Ethan and Hicks combined and he's always talking about his industry connections, I bet he could just come up with a concept and let a pro do the work for hire ala YBZ. He wouldn't have to do much but promote it on his big ass platform. He won't because he's a consoomer, not a creator.
 
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I suspect the rank and file TFMers want Star Wars 'fixed' and de-SJW'ed. Not an alternative.

I think eventaully the most likely outcome is entertainment will settle into is SJW-lite to make it more palatable to the most possible people. So, a random race swap of a supporting character, some annoying preaching/virtue signelling that doesn't impact the larger brand (Say, the gay guy in group with Capt America in Endgame or that random gay kiss in Rise of Skywalker, easily cut scenes).
 
Frog seemed a little cut up on Nasser's stream about letting the clown-haired pig Mecharandom42 slip through his rigorous anti-SJW defence forcefield.

Don't feel bad @FROG, sometimes the enemy can get away with hiding in plain sight!

Like that German spy in Blackadder:
 
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