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Original Dutch Article: https://nos.nl/artikel/2379979-transgenderregels-ioc-leveren-geen-eerlijke-competitie-op


IOC transgender rules do not provide fair competition
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Lundberg: “There is no research showing that the therapy makes a difference in terms of performance advantage. In almost all studies the limit of five nanomoles was reached, but the effect on muscle mass and strength remained small.”


“Hormone therapy also has hardly any effect on removing the advantage that men have in strength and speed. Only one-fifth of the original benefit is lost due to testosterone suppression.”

An advantage that has to do not only with hormones and testosterone, but with other physical male characteristics. Lundberg: “After puberty, boys are taller and taller, and the difference is so big that in sport you have to have a separate women’s category to create a fair competition. Otherwise women will no longer become champions and they will not win medals.”


‘It does not work’​


Lundberg continues: “Maybe the IOC thought, ‘Let’s see if this works.’ We now have enough data to say, it doesn’t work. From that perspective, their current regulations are not supported by scientific evidence.”

The proposition that the current regulations lead to fair competition between born women and transgender women (born men who now go through life as women) thus seems built on quicksand. “That would be a lie,” said Lundberg. “That’s the issue: inclusion and fairness don’t go together. In the sports world it is either one or the other.”

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Transgenderregels IOC leveren geen eerlijke competitie op​

Er is geen enkel wetenschappelijk bewijs dat de huidige transgenderregelgeving van het Internationaal Olympisch Comité (IOC) deelname van transgenders aan de Olympische Spelen op een eerlijke manier mogelijk maakt. Dat zegt de Zweedse wetenschapper Tommy Lundberg in gesprek met de NOS.
Lundberg werkt voor de medische universiteit van Zweden, die jaarlijks de Nobelprijs voor de fysiologie of geneeskunde uitreikt. "Er zijn botsende belangen. We willen transgender sporters mee laten doen. Maar sport moet een keuze maken tussen inclusiviteit en eerlijkheid. Allebei gaat niet."
De discussie over transgenderdeelname aan de Olympische Spelen is actueel nadat de Nieuw-Zeelandse gewichthefster Laurel Hubbard zich plaatste voor de Olympische Spelen.
Om het mogelijk te maken dat transgenders deel kunnen nemen aan de Olympische Spelen, paste het IOC in 2016 de regels aan. Transmannen die als meisje zijn geboren, mogen zonder beperking meedoen. Transvrouwen, die als jongen zijn geboren, moeten twaalf maanden lang hormoontherapie hebben gevolgd en hun testosteronniveau mag niet boven de tien nanomol per liter uitkomen. Het doel van de regelgeving: een eerlijke competitie creëren.

Nauwelijks effect​

Lundberg deed in 2020 onderzoek naar de invloed van testosteron op de sportprestaties van transgenders. Volgens hem hebben de extra IOC-voorwaarden nauwelijks effect op het prestatieverschil. Hij ziet in studies dat transgenders bijvoorbeeld langer voordeel houden van een hardere strafcorner of een snellere service.

Lundberg: "Er is geen enkel onderzoek waaruit blijkt dat de therapie qua prestatievoordeel verschil maakt. In bijna alle onderzoeken werd de grens van vijf nanomol bereikt, maar bleef het effect op spiermassa en kracht gering."
"Ook de hormoontherapie heeft nauwelijks effect op het wegnemen van het voordeel dat mannen hebben aan kracht en snelheid. Slechts een vijfde van het oorspronkelijke voordeel valt weg door testosterononderdrukking."
Een voordeel dat niet alleen te maken heeft met hormonen en testosteron, maar met andere fysieke mannelijke kenmerken. Lundberg: "Na de pubertijd zijn jongens groter en langer, en dat verschil is zo groot, dat je in de sport een aparte vrouwencategorie moet hebben om een eerlijke competitie te creëren. Anders worden vrouwen geen kampioen meer en winnen ze geen medailles."

'Het werkt niet'​

Lundberg vervolgt: "Misschien heeft het IOC gedacht: 'laten we kijken of dit werkt'. We hebben nu genoeg data in handen om te zeggen: het werkt niet. Vanuit dat perspectief wordt hun huidige regelgeving niet ondersteund door wetenschappelijk bewijs."
De stelling dat de huidige regelgeving leidt tot een eerlijke competitie tussen geboren vrouwen en transgendervrouwen (geboren mannen die nu door het leven gaan als vrouw) lijkt dus gebouwd op drijfzand. "Dat zou een leugen zijn", aldus Lundberg. "Dat is het issue: inclusie en eerlijkheid gaan niet samen. In de sportwereld is het of het een of het ander."
 
I'm going to say that this goes in the 'no fucking shit' category.
 
One or two mediocre male athletes can waltz in and completely obliterate the absolute best female athletes, it's pretty embarrassing lol

An example of just how incomparable the sexes are in terms of physical ability:
The following, quoted by Brian Mitchell in his book Women in the Military: Flirting With Disaster (Regnery, 1998 ) and widely known to students of the military, are results of a test the Navy did to see how well women could perform in damage control – i.e., tasks necessary to save a ship that had been hit.
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China’s National Track & Field Championships 2019, Women's champs:
hey, atleast one looks like a woman...

How very East German of them.
they look worse than east german woman. East Germany used very sophisticated stuff that didnt change the look so much(but gave cancer and heart problems to pretty much everyone).

West Germany was less sophisticated, they used meth in football and had the brilliant idea to blow air in the ass of swimmers.
 
they look worse than east german woman. East Germany used very sophisticated stuff that didnt change the look so much(but gave cancer and heart problems to pretty much everyone).

West Germany was less sophisticated, they used meth in football and had the brilliant idea to blow air in the ass of swimmers.
It's times like this I am reminded that despite whatever goofy shit our society gets up to Zee Germans will always be world leaders in fucked up human experimentation.
 
“Hormone therapy also has hardly any effect on removing the advantage that men have in strength and speed. Only one-fifth of the original benefit is lost due to testosterone suppression.”

An advantage that has to do not only with hormones and testosterone, but with other physical male characteristics. Lundberg: “After puberty, boys are taller and taller, and the difference is so big that in sport you have to have a separate women’s category to create a fair competition. Otherwise women will no longer become champions and they will not win medals.”
Men and women are completely different in every way:

(Enjoy this article now before it gets filled with trans gibberish)

Even if you ignore all that, another advantage for men is that equipment is designed around male bodies. Even small things like shoes are designed for male feet and then just scaled down for women instead of looking at how female feet are different. I know a lot of athletes get some things custom made, but I doubt they all do and certainly not for any equipment that is shared.

Women are also more likely to give up sports during puberty and have less access to teams, equipment, and even just places to practise.
 
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An example of just how incomparable the sexes are in terms of physical ability:

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It’s not just physical ability, the equipment is designed for male hands which would have prevented women’s smaller hands from getting a proper grip.
 
You know what? Accept tranny athletes, it'll collapse the games and be the final blow for the corruptness of the IOC and the political grift the modern Olympics have become.... the allegorical value of the final Olympics would be off the scale - The world pouring billions into the pockets of elites to build a guilded stage on which the masses can worship the idea that men can be women after buying an official Coke..... patting themselves on the back the whole time about how they truly helped the world, while glossing over the 10,000 poors bulldozed out of the way of that Olympic Village.

Fuck their world of plastic and false virtue.

It's times like this I am reminded that despite whatever goofy shit our society gets up to Zee Germans will always be world leaders in fucked up human experimentation.
I kind of miss East Germany, they were the apex predator of national villainy, the oppression of communism, implemented with Teutonic glee and efficiency to the point it produced things you'd swear were fictional.... a nation where 10% of the GDP goes to spying on it's own citizens? Built a wall to keep their own people from leaving? Cadaverous ex-Nazis in positions of power? Yep, it was all true....
 
I kind of miss East Germany, they were the apex predator of national villainy, the oppression of communism, implemented with Teutonic glee and efficiency to the point it produced things you'd swear were fictional.... a nation where 10% of the GDP goes to spying on it's own citizens? Built a wall to keep their own people from leaving? Cadaverous ex-Nazis in positions of power? Yep, it was all true....
Ah, East Germany... where half the country was hired to spy on the other half. Not even the Russians achieved that level of internal policing. I believe the best they got was 1 informer for every 3 non-informers.
 
It’s not just physical ability, the equipment is designed for male hands which would have prevented women’s smaller hands from getting a proper grip.
Since people are disagreeing with this, let me expand on my post.

All but one of the men's tests are 100% pass. If you strip away the men's results, you are left with results that show that the equipment used is not fit for the purpose. An engine bolt that only half of trained men can use would be binned immediately and redesigned so that 100% can use it.

The navy aren't just ordering random things from catalogues, everything is repeatedly tested and improved upon. It's no coincidence that the navy uses equipment that 100% of men can use as this is who would have taken part in the design process and trials.

It's also likely that the stretcher carry weight was not adjusted for women, meaning women probably had to carry a "standard male" who would likely be 1.5 times their own body weight, while it would have been close the same body weight of the male participants.

The average female Army recruit is 4.8 inches shorter, 31.7 pounds lighter, has 37.4 fewer pounds of muscle, and 5.7 more pounds of fat than the average male recruit. She has only 55 percent of the upper-body strength and 72 percent of the lower-body strength... An Army study of 124 men and 186 women done in 1988 found that women are more than twice as likely to suffer leg injuries and nearly five times as likely to suffer fractures as men.
The reason women were much more likely to suffer leg injures was because they were being forced to match male stride length for the male pelvis, as well as carry equipment designed around male muscle distribution. They no longer require women to match men's strides because of this.

I took training seriously and really tried to keep up with the men. I found I couldn’t. It wasn’t even close. I had no idea the difference in physical ability was so huge. There were always crowds of women sitting out exercises or on crutches from training injuries.
Training exercises that regularly cause injuries are also not fit for the purpose and would be changed immediately if they were causing the same issue for men. There is no benefit to the navy if they are constantly injuring recruits.

One-third of 450 female soldiers surveyed indicated that they experienced problematic urinary incontinence during exercise and field training activities. The other crucial finding of the survey was probably that 13.3% of the respondents restricted fluids significantly while participating in field exercises.
This is due to trousers only having a fly and not have a zip around crotch which allows women to pee standing up. Again, if men were having urinary incontinence or restricting fluids at this rate, the field training activities or equipment would be immediately changed.

Overall, the thing to realize is that equipment and training exercises were designed and tested to fit their purpose. Something that 50% of participants or less can't use is just not useful for anyone, especially in an emergency situation. If men had to use tools too large for them to get a proper grip, or walk in unnatural strides, etc then they would also have a higher failure and injury rate.
 
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All but one of the men's tests are 100% pass. If you strip away the men's results, you are left with results that show that the equipment used is not fit for the purpose. An engine bolt that only half of trained men can use would be binned immediately and redesigned so that 100% can use it.

The navy aren't just ordering random things from catalogues, everything is repeatedly tested and improved upon. It's no coincidence that the navy uses equipment that 100% of men can use as this is who would have taken part in the design process and trials.

It's also likely that the stretcher carry weight was not adjusted for women, meaning women probably had to carry a "standard male" who would likely be 1.5 times their own body weight, while it would have been close the same body weight of the male participants.
If you lower the bar for the tests below what is actually expected in the emergency scenarios these skills are supposed to be used under, the test becomes useless.
 
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