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I recently watched Devilman Crybaby. I tried it out a couple of years ago but didn't get far because I didn't like the art style. I gave it another shot and the art instantly clicked with me. I love the unique look of the show and how it somehow managed to fit perfectly with the graphic violence. And holy hell that ending, that is one of the darkest endings I've ever seen.

Between that and a recent rewatch of Akira (which is still probably my favorite anime movie), I think I finally figured out the anime I like. I love dark and incredibly violent anime that tells a compelling and emotional story. Berserk is another good one that's stuck with me. I've probably mentioned before in this thread that I typically enjoy more dark and adult anime, so it feels nice that I've managed to find at least one other series that I enjoyed.
Devilman Crybaby has been on my watchlist for a while, just haven't really felt in the mood to watch "that kind" of show - I'm sure you know what I mean. I've kinda been wanting to get into Berserk, but the fact that it's unfinished and perpetually on hiatus is putting me off from starting it.

I recently finished Hell's Paradise and overall it was pretty solid with a somewhat above-average ending. I'd probably give it like a high 7/10. The best part of it is definitely the characters - I can't put my finger on why but I found pretty much every main character to be likable and compelling, and almost teared up at some of the deaths, which doesn't usually happen for me. The art's pretty good and I really like all the flower-themed monster designs. My main complaint is the fucking Pokemon type advantages that are introduced about halfway through, which felt like a really contrived way of making some fights arbitrarily more difficult, because each character's "type" is literally just an informed attribute with no bearing on their technique or fighting style.

I'm definitely excited to see how the anime is going to turn out, animation would do wonders for the creepy uncanny-valley look of the island and I think everything in general would work a lot better in color, especially with the flower-themed villains that were very hard for me to tell apart early on. I just have to wonder how they're going to get around the TONS of exposed tits.
 
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Devilman Crybaby has been on my watchlist for a while, just haven't really felt in the mood to watch "that kind" of show - I'm sure you know what I mean. I've kinda been wanting to get into Berserk, but the fact that it's unfinished and perpetually on hiatus is putting me off from starting it.

I recently finished Hell's Paradise and overall it was pretty solid with a somewhat above-average ending. I'd probably give it like a high 7/10. The best part of it is definitely the characters - I can't put my finger on why but I found pretty much every main character to be likable and compelling, and almost teared up at some of the deaths, which doesn't usually happen for me. The art's pretty good and I really like all the flower-themed monster designs. My main complaint is the fucking Pokemon type advantages that are introduced about halfway through, which felt like a really contrived way of making some fights arbitrarily more difficult, because each character's "type" is literally just an informed attribute with no bearing on their technique or fighting style.

I'm definitely excited to see how the anime is going to turn out, animation would do wonders for the creepy uncanny-valley look of the island and I think everything in general would work a lot better in color, especially with the flower-themed villains that were very hard for me to tell apart early on. I just have to wonder how they're going to get around the TONS of exposed tits.
Crybaby's a really good show, I definitely recommend it.
 
I recently watched Devilman Crybaby. I tried it out a couple of years ago but didn't get far because I didn't like the art style. I gave it another shot and the art instantly clicked with me. I love the unique look of the show and how it somehow managed to fit perfectly with the graphic violence. And holy hell that ending, that is one of the darkest endings I've ever seen.

Between that and a recent rewatch of Akira (which is still probably my favorite anime movie), I think I finally figured out the anime I like. I love dark and incredibly violent anime that tells a compelling and emotional story. Berserk is another good one that's stuck with me. I've probably mentioned before in this thread that I typically enjoy more dark and adult anime, so it feels nice that I've managed to find at least one other series that I enjoyed.
I still get upset over the fact that Crybaby is probably the only full adaption (loosely at that with how much was added/removed from the source material) we'll get, as a big fan of the manga and OVA series I can't stand Crybaby. It's fine on its own, but as an adaption it's fucked with how divorced it is in both plot and characters. My disappointment was immeasurable when I marathoned through Crybaby when it first dropped and outside of like one episode near the end (Miki's death) there were more things I disliked about the adaption than liked. Soundtrack was probably my favorite part, though I miss the heavy metal from the original.

Wish it was done more in the style of the Parasyte adaption where they changed up things to modernise it or tweaked things for story flow so it'd fit a full adaption, but kept it pretty close to the original story/character wise. You can take liberties when creating an adaption, I'm not upset about things not being a 1:1 adaption, but Crybaby removed a lot of what made the original series so enjoyable and instead focused on a bunch of anime original stuff I didn't care about. The worst offender is the character assassination of Ryo and to a lesser extent Akira. There's also Miki, but her changes are more forgiving since a lot of later adaptions have already changed her into a more pure existence from her original persona of telling bullies to kill themselves.

At least when the OVA made changes it helped improve on the original, like Jinmen's fight was changed from Akira having a hard fight due to a random little girl they introduced that chapter being in his shell to his missing parents. They also did a bang up job adapting Go Nagai's character designs. Even the Cyborg 009 vs. Devilman Ryo, who looks like a depressed man in his thirties who's hit rock bottom, looks better than the stupid kpop cut Crybaby Ryo has.

God, I hate that literally every time Crybaby gets brought up I can't help but rant about the thing.
 
The worst offender is the character assassination of Ryo and to a lesser extent Akira.
I do have the first volume of the manga and I thought I'd give it another go after finishing Crybaby. What's so interesting about manga Ryo is that he's not nearly an emotionless drone as he is in Crybaby. He seems as though he genuinely cares about Akira's safety and hates the idea of turning him into a demon to the point he's actually shedding tears, where in Crybaby I got the sense he's manipulating Akira. Both him and Akira seem like genuine friends in the manga, something I rarely got in Crybaby. If anything, you have to wonder why Akira would be friends with a violent psycho like Ryo.

I kinda have a harder time sitting through the manga though because the beginning suffers from an insane amount of exposition dump. I do get a clearer picture of what the demons are and what they're capable of (I don't even think Crybaby explained that until the final episode), but it could have been paced better in my opinion. Once the story actually gets going it's far more enjoyable, plus I think my impatience stems from having just finished Crybaby and wanting them to get on with it. Also for some reason the American release slapped on Shin Devilman, that midquel series where Akira goes back in time and influences history, without even a hint that it's not the original manga. When I first read it I had no idea that it wasn't the original story so it felt so out-of-left-field and stupid that Akira's going back in time and killing more demons. Plus it completely slows down the story for shit that accomplishes nothing to the overall narrative. That's not the fault of the manga necessarily, but if you're just trying to get into the story the American release makes it a little harder to swallow.

None of this to say I don't like the manga because honestly I really like Go Nagai's art (something about old manga style appeals to me for some reason) and the story's not nearly as stripped down so I get a much clearer picture. The violence also feels a lot more impactful due to the way Nagai draws the fight scenes; fights have a lot more weight to them where in Crybaby it feels a lot more like characters are made of paper and fell apart easily. It's just as a newcomer the pacing can get a little slow after the brisk pace Crybaby had.

I put Crybaby in the same league as the Berserk movie trilogy. It's a fine entry point for those wanting to give the series a shot, but once you're done with it you'll want to check out the source material to get a much fuller story, while veterans aren't going to get nearly as much out of it. Though from what you're suggesting Crybaby makes far more radical changes than the Berserk movies.
 
I do have the first volume of the manga and I thought I'd give it another go after finishing Crybaby. What's so interesting about manga Ryo is that he's not nearly an emotionless drone as he is in Crybaby. He seems as though he genuinely cares about Akira's safety and hates the idea of turning him into a demon to the point he's actually shedding tears, where in Crybaby I got the sense he's manipulating Akira. Both him and Akira seem like genuine friends in the manga, something I rarely got in Crybaby. If anything, you have to wonder why Akira would be friends with a violent psycho like Ryo.
That was one of the major things I couldn't stand in Crybaby because of how it ruined that strong relationship between Ryo and Akira, in my mind it also ruined the impact of Ryo's betrayal and the final moments of mourning after he killed Akira. Crybaby never made me understand how the two of them were even friends past them having to be for the sake of the story, past them making Crybaby Akira pre-demon semi (if not fully) retarded.

While them changing up Ryo was the most glaring issue for me, what they did to Akira made me feel like they also didn't really get his character either. In the manga he's a good person that's just more on the cowardly side, but when Ryo needs him he's right there by his friends side even if he might die. Then Crybaby Devilman Akira is just a massive step down across the board and felt entirely disconnect from pre-demon Akira. Manga Devilman Akira was different sure, but no where near to the same amount and you could still see that he was still the same good person at heart.
I kinda have a harder time sitting through the manga though because the beginning suffers from an insane amount of exposition dump. I do get a clearer picture of what the demons are and what they're capable of (I don't even think Crybaby explained that until the final episode), but it could have been paced better in my opinion. Once the story actually gets going it's far more enjoyable, plus I think my impatience stems from having just finished Crybaby and wanting them to get on with it. Also for some reason the American release slapped on Shin Devilman, that midquel series where Akira goes back in time and influences history, without even a hint that it's not the original manga. When I first read it I had no idea that it wasn't the original story so it felt so out-of-left-field and stupid that Akira's going back in time and killing more demons. Plus it completely slows down the story for shit that accomplishes nothing to the overall narrative. That's not the fault of the manga necessarily, but if you're just trying to get into the story the American release makes it a little harder to swallow.
I originally read Devilman through scanlations a while back, also remember the beginning to be a bit of a slog. Initially I was excited for the western release since I could finally own the series, but after hearing about Shin Devilman just being slapped in I've kind of held off. Might just bite the bullet and get the series anyway and just skip over Shin Devilman.
None of this to say I don't like the manga because honestly I really like Go Nagai's art (something about old manga style appeals to me for some reason) and the story's not nearly as stripped down so I get a much clearer picture. The violence also feels a lot more impactful due to the way Nagai draws the fight scenes; fights have a lot more weight to them where in Crybaby it feels a lot more like characters are made of paper and fell apart easily. It's just as a newcomer the pacing can get a little slow after the brisk pace Crybaby had.
I've always been a big fan of Go Nagai's manga even if people shrug them off as wonky gory perv fests, there's just something really nice about how he draws action. It's also interesting to see how he evolves story ideas, like his short lived Maou Dante being the base for the later Devilman.

If you want something short but really fun that he wrote I'd recommend Guerrilla High.
I put Crybaby in the same league as the Berserk movie trilogy. It's a fine entry point for those wanting to give the series a shot, but once you're done with it you'll want to check out the source material to get a much fuller story, while veterans aren't going to get nearly as much out of it. Though from what you're suggesting Crybaby makes far more radical changes than the Berserk movies.
I think the underlying major problem I have with Crybaby is the kind of fans it attracted, not helped by it being a Yuasa anime. A lot of them have no interest in reading the manga or even watching the previous OVA, I've even seen some claim it's 100% better than the source material somehow. I wouldn't mind as much if Crybaby did get people interested into actually exploring Devilman, but for many the series has become the face of Devilman.
 
Outside of the soundtrack, I honestly just prefer the fan parodies of Devilman: Crybaby over the show itself now that enough time has passed.
 
I still get upset over the fact that Crybaby is probably the only full adaption (loosely at that with how much was added/removed from the source material) we'll get, as a big fan of the manga and OVA series I can't stand Crybaby. It's fine on its own, but as an adaption it's fucked with how divorced it is in both plot and characters. My disappointment was immeasurable when I marathoned through Crybaby when it first dropped and outside of like one episode near the end (Miki's death) there were more things I disliked about the adaption than liked. Soundtrack was probably my favorite part, though I miss the heavy metal from the original.

Wish it was done more in the style of the Parasyte adaption where they changed up things to modernise it or tweaked things for story flow so it'd fit a full adaption, but kept it pretty close to the original story/character wise. You can take liberties when creating an adaption, I'm not upset about things not being a 1:1 adaption, but Crybaby removed a lot of what made the original series so enjoyable and instead focused on a bunch of anime original stuff I didn't care about. The worst offender is the character assassination of Ryo and to a lesser extent Akira. There's also Miki, but her changes are more forgiving since a lot of later adaptions have already changed her into a more pure existence from her original persona of telling bullies to kill themselves.

At least when the OVA made changes it helped improve on the original, like Jinmen's fight was changed from Akira having a hard fight due to a random little girl they introduced that chapter being in his shell to his missing parents. They also did a bang up job adapting Go Nagai's character designs. Even the Cyborg 009 vs. Devilman Ryo, who looks like a depressed man in his thirties who's hit rock bottom, looks better than the stupid kpop cut Crybaby Ryo has.

God, I hate that literally every time Crybaby gets brought up I can't help but rant about the thing.
That's totally fair and Devilman absolutely deserves an accurate adaption, but I do think there's something interesting in these weirdo reinterpretation stories. As long as they're confined to their own universe anyways. Like this weird ass Gundam reimagining from the early 00s that never actually got made beyond a book and some supplementary manga chapters. "For The Barrel"

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That's RX78.


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That's RX78. Here's Amuro


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Also Char is a Robot or something lmao


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It was going to be an adaption of Tomino's novelization of the first Gundam series and it is utterly bizarre. There's barely any information on it even in Japan, this article is all I can find.
 
This is my friend Kagura. Say something nice to Kagura.
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Started The Big O tonight with a brother and watched a few episodes. Pretty dope, but it's also strangely nostalgic despite never having watched the anime before. It could be due to the animation style and how it feels like a Western cartoon more than an anime. It's pretty unique, and has some quiet sharp wits here and there. Music's banging, too.

I'm aware the second season has issues, but what they are, I dunno. I'm just along for the ride.
 
Are there any good SOLs these days? Doesn't matter if it's a comedy. Shit like Azumanga and Nichijou was great.
 
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