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so again, why censor to begin with? if the game is shit the market will treat it as such. they certainly won't make more sales doing it.
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so again, why censor to begin with? if the game is shit the market will treat it as such. they certainly won't make more sales doing it.
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Well going by the corporate mentality logic, they're always needlessly afraid of getting sued. Having a liability shield and just tagging a game that will only sell in the hundreds may pay off long term if a popular game gets surrounded by Karens(or Chinese Government Workers) and they can point to their existing standards and practices. Sometimes companies will allocate more controversial properties under a different banner like Disney used to do with Touchstone when Nightmare before Christmas came out. That may just happen with everything that's coming out with the kadokawa deal and all the Fate stuff that's supposedly going to come state side. They seem real serious about Fate from Fate/Stay night to the current incarnations of Fate. There's already a Natsu approved pornless version of Fate that was released on the PS2(and later on the Vita), but it's sounding like the Fate/Extra remake may serve as a base for future games and turn the VNs into actual games.
This kinda happened with Utawererumono where they remade the first game as a Dynasty Warriors clone, so it's not unheard of.
From a gameplay perspective the censorship really didn't affect the final product. The games pretty much fell on the same line as their uncensored versions. None of the censorship harmed the actual core gameplay. Similar to how some versions of Resident evil or Monster Hunter have the blood removed. It was just an added effect it wasn't tied to giving the player feedback or left a void. Mechanically they still function the same. Senran kagura's dressing room wasn't removed only the ability to touch the girls was, the dressing room also wasn't part of the core gameplay which was the Dynasty Warriors combat. Now if they got rid of the clothes damage that would have been more of an issue since that's tied to damage output and overall enemy health and the player needs to be able to see that change visually.
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Here's the thing. The Mass Effect remaster was rumored. Then you get the shitty ME 4 teaser drop. Then, Bioware releases Mass Effect Remastered. But OOPS, there's no DLC and it didn't redo multiplayer or fix certain issues. To their excuse "We wanted to retain the original experience". Whatever. Then you've got a problem. Andromeda was a fucking waste of oxygen so the less said about it, the better. Everyone just wants to forget about it.
But at the same time, ME 4 is who knows how long away. They need to keep Mass Effect in the gaming conscious. They know journos are fucking retards and will incite people on the internet. So, they do something which they know everyone will fucking hate: they remove very mild sexual content for no real reason other than 'toxic masculinity'.
So now you have focus off the remaster essentially being a 'meh' cashgrab and you keep people talking about Mass Effect. Doesn't really matter the reason. They're chatting about it.
The censorship in the remaster has nothing to do with virtue signaling. Its a ploy to keep people talking about the brand in the interim. They knew it was an essentially meaningless removal because all the other sexual content (Miranda stripping, her ass in tight latex) is all there. They know once the remaster comes out, gamers will trigger journos by posting Miranda ass shots all over their feeds.
I mean think about it, there's tons of sexual content in Mass Effect. There's fucking Liara talking about the color of Asari pussy. One ass shot is incredibly tame compared to that. The only logical conclusion is to generate artificial controversy and keep Mass Effect relevant. That's why it was just one shot. They did the absolute minimal amount. Too much, and people will question if they'd censor 4. But a few seconds in one scene? That's the sweet spot.
Now people are talking about the series again, buying some time for when 4 is in a good enough state to release promotional material. This wasn't to please anyone or for clout. This was a pure marketing maneuver to generate discussion to buy time until the fourth game is ready to be shown and talked about.
But at the same time, ME 4 is who knows how long away. They need to keep Mass Effect in the gaming conscious. They know journos are fucking retards and will incite people on the internet. So, they do something which they know everyone will fucking hate: they remove very mild sexual content for no real reason other than 'toxic masculinity'.
So now you have focus off the remaster essentially being a 'meh' cashgrab and you keep people talking about Mass Effect. Doesn't really matter the reason. They're chatting about it.
The censorship in the remaster has nothing to do with virtue signaling. Its a ploy to keep people talking about the brand in the interim. They knew it was an essentially meaningless removal because all the other sexual content (Miranda stripping, her ass in tight latex) is all there. They know once the remaster comes out, gamers will trigger journos by posting Miranda ass shots all over their feeds.
I mean think about it, there's tons of sexual content in Mass Effect. There's fucking Liara talking about the color of Asari pussy. One ass shot is incredibly tame compared to that. The only logical conclusion is to generate artificial controversy and keep Mass Effect relevant. That's why it was just one shot. They did the absolute minimal amount. Too much, and people will question if they'd censor 4. But a few seconds in one scene? That's the sweet spot.
Now people are talking about the series again, buying some time for when 4 is in a good enough state to release promotional material. This wasn't to please anyone or for clout. This was a pure marketing maneuver to generate discussion to buy time until the fourth game is ready to be shown and talked about.
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The mass effect thing seems kind of like a hail mary. I mean in theory that's how marketing can work by doing exactly how you said it. But weather it translates into sales or not is another thing. They really did sink the ship with 3 similar to how Disney sunk Star Wars by the second movie. They need something like a Mandalorean to revive interest with Mass Effect and to rebuild good will. Just putting out the original trilogy(again) doesn't quite cut it if they want to sell people on a new game that's the first in a new line of games.
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I mean lets face it, they know they COMPLETELY fucked the franchise with the third game no matter what they said. Then Andromeda came out and it was adding rocket fuel to the fire.
The remaster isn't there to buy good will, its to show Mass Effect is still around and being worked on (Lets be real, these ain't no Resident Evil Remakes). They know a remaster is going to open up old wounds over the ending, so that's not going to douse flames. Cutting a few seconds is to distract from ME 3's shit ending, and just keep people talking about the brand. They know nothing they can do at this point will revive the franchise and the ME remaster's goal is most certainly not that.
The remaster is to get people to remember the franchise is still alive, the controversy is to steer people away from going "Hey, remember how the third game ruined the trilogy?" and keep people talking about it.
Mass Effect 4's job is to be the so-called Mandolorian of the universe. EA was not willing to put the money in to remake the series, so they cheaped out on a remaster to keep the brand moving. They used the controversy to keep people talking about the brand. It doesn't even matter if the remaster sells. Its just there to show people "Hey, this franchise is still alive and we're working on it."
Its a tactic they're using before they begin to put together marketing material for 4, as well as gauge how they can get around the hatred of the third ending to try and pull a Mandalorian.
Of course, if I were just EA, I'd remake the fucking games as new experiences, sticking to similar plot beats and totally revamp the ending. I mean, they've got the fucking money for it. Its not like they're poor. That would hype people up beyond imagination. But it commits the most egregious sin imaginable: A corporation made a mistake.
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I dunno personally I would have preferred a smaller scale game for the first revival. Something that still hits all the notes of the first Mass Effect but just scaled down so the game wouldn't take ages to come out and wouldn't run the team an arm and a leg to make. Like to show a proof of concept that they can still make the core gameplay elements. Then do the remaster of the original 3 and then show 4.
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lmao if ONLY they were putting this much energy into fixing the damn ending!
As a grown-ass woman who was never triggered by girls prettier than me, I'm honestly tired of these "not like the other straight male gamers" dudes spewing woke bs about how "mature" they all are. Idc about Miranda's butt. She looks great but whatever. If you don't wanna look at that, you can look at something else... There's plenty of horny shit in Mass Effect, I don't see why the outrage is about her specifically...
But I'm not even gonna buy this shit anyway. My old ME2 copy works perfectly fine, thank you~
As a grown-ass woman who was never triggered by girls prettier than me, I'm honestly tired of these "not like the other straight male gamers" dudes spewing woke bs about how "mature" they all are. Idc about Miranda's butt. She looks great but whatever. If you don't wanna look at that, you can look at something else... There's plenty of horny shit in Mass Effect, I don't see why the outrage is about her specifically...
But I'm not even gonna buy this shit anyway. My old ME2 copy works perfectly fine, thank you~
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They are fixing an ending, it's just that it's a rear ending.
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They could but then again, that means actual work that isn't adjusting a camera angle or adding in graphical effects. I'm not even a Miranda fan and I see her looking like a female Michael Jackson since day 1 but spergy as the butt shot screaming is, I can't even see much reason to remove ass shots beyond one going on about "tone" in some cutscene followed by all the Twitter tards going "gamers tm." I wouldn't be surprised if these people overplayed the group bitching about the butt shots while assuming anyone not liking the change had to be some full-on coomer and thinking "google porn" as the only answer for this.
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It boggles the mind that they object to an angle sexualizing her(tbh it was a bit odd) because it embodies the players desire, I suppose, but being able to fuck her* no matter the players gender or her NPC sexual preference is OK. It's Islamic gameplay, you can't show the women but if you decide that they are yours then they have to get naked and go along with it, the NPC agency of fictional women is no longer a concern if it's an arranged RPG marriage.
*Bioware characters in general.
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They also don't realize that you can't objectify game characters to begin with because video game characters are already objects.
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It starts with objectifying the buttocks in a game, and ends with hordes of incels raping dozens of wymyn while voting Republican and shooting People of Colour from Freedom Trucks using fully automatic AK-16's.
I joke, of course, but the slippery slope fallacy is a favourite of all pearl-clutching moral grandstanders, regardless of political affiliation.
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Man, I had some flashbacks to Jack Thompson right there. These moral guardians are all the same, aren't they?
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Jack Thompson at least made money, these moral guardians are taking up oaths of meaningless self flagellation in hopes of finding some sort of redemption down the road.
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You'd be depressed if you knew how much money the oxygen thieves at Kotaku et al were making either directly via their company or through hipster welfare after they've moved on to faggier pastures a la Jim "I'm a woman now" Sterling. It's never been about the money, it's about the asspats and dopamine rush from likes on Twitter. If you don't stand up for the rights of imaginary computer game women the nazis win.
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They should have remade the multiplayer and keep it alive until they start hyping up ME4. It might have cost a lot but come on, it was probably the only fun part of ME3.
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One of my fondest memories of the 80’s was Dee Snider of Twisted Sister absolutely demolishing Tipper Gore and the Congressional ‘Parents’ Music Resource Center’ witch hunt. It’s a masterclass in turning a pack of self-righteous, moralistic cunts into frothing lolcows.
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My favorite of that series of hearings was Zappa.
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Funny how a bunch of hippies, metal heads and dirtbags ran rings around a bipartisan committee of complacent regressive conservative fart-sniffers from both wings of politics.
The arrogance of these tongue-clucking elites thinking that people like Zappa and Snider were easy targets... when music artists had to engage in the creative process, not just promise favours in return for funding to help win a popularity contest.
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sued for what exactly?
and the other thing is branding, which has nothing to do with censorship.
might as well downgrade the graphics to pong levels. after all, it's a game, not a movie. music and sound? pff, why? just open spotify. story? lol loser, read a fucking book.
removing these doesn't affect core gamplay at all. cloth damage, what are you, a fashion designer? just slap a bar on that or even simpler the number indicating the health value of the entity. all that matters is CoRe GaMePlAy...
that was andromeda. pretty sure for all their talk me4 will be like ruin johnson's trilogy, the franchise is burned way too hard that you could simply reboot it (which they already tried but didn't want to commit) or just continue. you can't wait it out long enough so people forget about it, at that point in the future the IP will have lost almost all it's value along with it. remember, some people will always be mad (and then in turn remind others).
me3 killed of the protagonist and nuked the galaxy along with it (their shitty "the gates are totes fine y'all" EC retcon is still retarded).
as it turns out you can't milk a franchise forever when the big reason people play it in the first place are the characters and the (literal) universe and it lost most of it's appeal after they're gone, kinda like another epic space opera cultural icon you know. this also means you can't just redo it like spiderman's origin story every few years (unless you want to jump the shark even harder with multiverses or time travel shenanigans) because in people's mind it would invalidate their own experiences with it. or to put it this way, imagine how a OT remake with a afro genderfluid leia stealing the show would go.
I'd actually have to commend them crashing it with not survivors, because for me a good story needs to end at some point, good or bad. sadly that's not something you can monetize forever, but at least there's a bunch of EA execs out there who will forever be butthurt some hack canadians killed a multi-million franchise with their antics. aka the druckmann effect.
the remaster is just a cheap cash-in on a dead franchise that still holds some nostalgic value, it's not supposed to make big money and that's why EA didn't spend any on it. their statistics show there are enough people willing to pay for it (biggest chunk being hordes of console tards that can only play what works on their current console, so mass effect 1-3 is pretty much non-existent for them right now), but that doesn't mean there's enough enthusiasm out there to warrant spending millions on funding another AAA mass effect. episode X will probably release long before that, if ever.
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