2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Gustav Schuchardt said:
They've got loads of them. I kind of like the argument that 'if you read the original Hebrew it says time period not day. It could be used figuratively to mean 'a period of time'. Back then it wasn't like I could pull up the Hebrew text and look at a bunch of translations to see which one I agreed with.

Though now we've got the Internet and I can look up the text

http://www.qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/genesis/1.html


Now יוֹם is the term in question




So they're arguing it's used figuratively in Genesis but literally elsewhere.

IMO the whole thing is a creation myth so it's all figurative.

The other one is that all our systems for dating fossils are wrong, and all wrong in the same way which struck me as bogus.



Or you could adopt the 'I'm religious but not spiritual' position which is that no religion is literally true but some versions of Christianity are politically useful in the West for building group identity. In the East, I'd probably go for some variant of Buddhism though it's sort of interesting that Sun Yat-Sen and co, the people who founded the Republic of China, were all Christians.
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The entire topic is pretty fascinating. But my problem is that even if evolution is true or not, that doesn't change how perfectly designed the laws of the universe are. They fit together and compliment each other perfectly and very intelligently. But there's no reason that creationism and evolution can be mutually exclusive, maybe with traditional religions, but there's nothing that would stop whatever made everything from designing life to improve itself over time and gradually alter itself. I've even seen some particularly interpretave takes of the bible that includes evolution in it.
 
NeroRisotto said:
Nick Rekeita on the SCOTUS being pussies:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cv__Aqp-raU
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This is your brain on Rackets
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
They've got loads of them. I kind of like the argument that 'if you read the original Hebrew it says time period not day. It could be used figuratively to mean 'a period of time'. Back then it wasn't like I could pull up the Hebrew text and look at a bunch of translations to see which one I agreed with.

Though now we've got the Internet and I can look up the text

http://www.qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/genesis/1.html


Now יוֹם is the term in question




So they're arguing it's used figuratively in Genesis but literally elsewhere.
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those types of semantic arguments is what got me to question sola scriptura. the same issue applies to the eucharist and who read body and blood in john 6.

Gustav Schuchardt said:
IMO the whole thing is a creation myth so it's all figurative.
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there is theological opinion that the garden of eden is another state or planet altogether, adam and eve forced onto Earth(third planet from the sun) after getting the boot.
Gustav Schuchardt said:
The other one is that all our systems for dating fossils are wrong, and all wrong in the same way which struck me as bogus.
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those types of arguments are unfair when you dont know enough about the science imo. but sounds sketchy for sure. you're left arguing from opinions.from experts, like bart ehrmann and text analaysis

Gustav Schuchardt said:
Or you could adopt the 'I'm religious but not spiritual' position which is that no religion is literally true but some versions of Christianity are politically useful in the West for building group identity. In the East, I'd probably go for some variant of Buddhism though it's sort of interesting that Sun Yat-Sen and co, the people who founded the Republic of China, were all Christians.
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eastern orthodoxy has similar ideas about passion and desire in line with buddhism. monastics are similar except you're not trying to achieve nothingness but God and theosis.
 
Nom Carver said:
The entire topic is pretty fascinating. But my problem is that even if evolution is true or not, that doesn't change how perfectly designed the laws of the universe are. They fit together and compliment each other perfectly and very intelligently. But there's no reason that creationism and evolution can be mutually exclusive, maybe with traditional religions, but there's nothing that would stop whatever made everything from designing life to improve itself over time and gradually alter itself. I've even seen some particularly interpretave takes of the bible that includes evolution in it.
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I'd probably say that God is [in] the laws of the universe. Einstein famously said, "I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals himself in the lawful harmony of all that exists, but not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."

So when Einstein was inventing, or perhaps discovering, his field equation he thought that was literally an aspect of God. Some of the US founding fathers were Deists who believed God was a prime mover who set the universe going but didn't intervene after that and that seems like a similar idea.

I think there's something remarkable about how evolution designs organisms too because it's not a conscious process, not despite it not being a conscious process. E.g. when we discover some weird bit of physics someone quickly finds that some organism exploits it because evolution doesn't need to understand the physics of the ocean to surf the wave.

Now if you're a Christian you could say 'Well that's all very well but it's not compatible with Christianity'. And you'd have a point.

Jefferson apparently did an edit of the bible that removed all the supernatural bits, which is an example of what happens to smart people who have too much time on their hands.

Michael Wade said:
Oh and even more comforting news.


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Right now the least bad thing that could happen is that Trump invokes the EO and sets in motion a process by which Pence or Congress decide to accept electors appointed by the state legislatures.

I'd be very surprised if that happens though. I think the US is going to have a Biden administration pushing HR.1, amnesty for illegals, censorship, gun grabs, and court-packing. And I've got no idea where that leads. Nowhere good, that's for sure.
 
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Michael Wade said:
Jesus. this is insane


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Oh and even more comforting news.


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Seems like a legit source there (sarcasm)


murdered meat bag said:
Bruce franks jr vs penny hubbard 2016 shows how the democrat system handles fraud causes between non white candidates. read it and see if it mirrors this election

its not.my fault you dont read the thread.


how do people prove rape?

where have i said trump replaces Jesus Christ, king of kings and son of man? sounds like another one of your unprovable claims.
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Out of curiosity, are you genuinely autistic? The reason I ask is that you didn't even address one of my claims or even appear to read what I wrote
 
Michael Wade said:
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There was a 4chan post saying that they were going to drop the case and that Roberts was yelling this.

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I don't know if this was posted before or after the announcement was made offhand, 4chan is saying just an hour or two before but I don't have the time to check right now.
It may just be people using the initial 4chan post as a source, but at this point it's as reliable of a source as any other the media pulls out of their ass. Roberts being a coward is pretty par for the course though
 
RiverFalcon said:
There was a 4chan post saying that they were going to drop the case and that Roberts was yelling this.

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I don't know if this was posted before or after the announcement was made offhand, 4chan is saying just an hour or two before but I don't have the time to check right now.
It may just be people using the initial 4chan post as a source, but at this point it's as reliable of a source as any other the media pulls out of their ass. Roberts being a coward is pretty par for the course though
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I remember reading that larp when it was posted. So somebody read a 4chan shitpost in front of Congress, huh?
 
I think the "leaked" Supreme Court non-tapes are a trap. I've heard nothing about such a thing, only earlier conferences regarding the Capitol Police. Similar, but one has the SC acting like tyrants and the other doesn't.
 
A source close to Clarence Thomas said he refused to stop watching Long Dong Silver porn to rule on the Texas case, so it was thrown out.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Out of curiosity, are you genuinely autistic? The reason I ask is that you didn't even address one of my claims or even appear to read what I wrote
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1.) disliking the format doesnt disqualify the evidence re: video
2.) dunno how you came to think dna changes, but i would leave dna (hence, how do you think they prove rape) - cat charges debunked.
3.) the god thing is projection, never saw trump as a replacement for Christ.
4.) dont project your goalpost moving onto us, we never had to move them once.

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murdered meat bag said:
1.) disliking the format doesnt disqualify the evidence re: video
2.) dunno how you came to think dna changes, but i would leave dna (hence, how do you think they prove rape) - cat charges debunked.
3.) the god thing is projection, never saw trump as a replacement for Christ.
4.) dont project your goalpost moving onto us, we never had to move them once.

hth
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1. Yes, it does. I can give you a 12 hour video saying it proves fraud didn't happen. I wouldn't expect you to watch a 12 hour video, though, because that's just retarded. If you asked me for a timestamp, I'd give it. You still haven't given one, which makes me suspect you didn't watch it.
2. Uhh, that's not how it works. You leave DNA, but it's only there temporarily. After a short while, that DNA is gone. When you have sex with a woman, even if you don't pull out, your sperm is only in her for a few days (unless there's a pregnancy). If you DNA test her a year after, she's not going to show DNA. Rape kits work because they're done within hours of the rape.
3. Riiiiiiiiight.
4. You're moving the goal posts here, champ.
 
NeroRisotto said:
Nick Rekeita on the SCOTUS being pussies:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cv__Aqp-raU
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It's beyond me why anybody takes this totally lacking in talent loser seriously. He recommended his friend with no experience in Tortious Interference to fight in a Tortious Interference case. He puts his own interests before actually being a good lawyer.
 
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