WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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This one probably could be, yes.

Edit: And to answer the follow-up, it may be possible for Phil to finally show up for a hearing, but he would need an attorney at this point to actually defend himself. Given that he didn't bust out a sudden "gib me money and don't ask why" reeemergency begging stream, I'm not inclined to think he is doing that.

Well, regardless of how this whole thing ends, I certainly appreciate Phil not taking this seriously, because doing so would've been the thing that ruins our fun here on the Farms. I mean, imagine if he suddenly did do the right thing. What would we laugh at then, as far as this situation is concerned?

So thanks, Phil, for being enough of a dumbass to think your Chapter 7 is protecting you here.
 
This one probably could be, yes.

Edit: And to answer the follow-up, it may be possible for Phil to finally show up for a hearing, but he would need an attorney at this point to actually defend himself. Given that he didn't bust out a sudden "gib me money and don't ask why" reeemergency begging stream, I'm not inclined to think he is doing that.
I feel so dumb for asking that. For a minute I forgot how serious the current situation. :stress:
 
A lot of people think that if just enough pressure is applied, that DSP will finally fess up and admit it's him. Surely he'd have to underneath all of this evidence? But that's not how a pathological liar works. He doesn't care that his lies are pathetic, he doesn't care that he's turning long-time fans against him because of his obvious gambling addiction fueled by sleazy begging to children. For DSP, self-preservation is holding up the lie no matter how absurd it starts to get. There is nothing more important, not the respect of his fans, not clout, not money, not even his marriage or his condo. When someone's addiction is this bad, and they're this ashamed of it, they're usually pretty rock-bottom as it is.

I'd like to share two passages from Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas:
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That's where our boy Phil is. In the eye of the storm. The only thing he cares about is putting money into the game. He'll lie about everything and anything to avoid looking himself in the mirror.

And one more thing; while I was looking up more about this game, this gem caught my eye which helped put everything into perspective.

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A high enough character can cause a "turn-1 win". You can't say this isn't gambling. You press one button, you see the result. It's a slot machine, clear as day.
 
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This thread is not only near proof/a monument to phil's gambling addiction, its also near proof/a monument to the incompetence of one Nancy L James. Showing that a few mentally ill internet stalkers with far less resources and access can do a much better job for free than paid professional agents of the US government's most feared department. Oh and its also hard evidence of criminal fraud too.
 
This thread is not only near proof/a monument to phil's gambling addiction, its also near proof/a monument to the incompetence of one Nancy L James. Showing that a few mentally ill internet stalkers with far less resources and access can do a much better job for free than paid professional agents of the US government's most feared department. Oh and its also hard evidence of criminal fraud too.
I remember reading yesterday that one of the Zodiac Killer's codes got broken again, the last one was cracked several decades ago by an amateur code cracker. And guess who cracked this one? That's right, a team of amateurs. One wonders why government employees should even get paid when a few turboautists with a few free hours on their hands can do so much more.
 
Again, Why are people fixated on how he used it? The fact that he has it and its connected to his number is whats important. Okay lets assume he installed it and forgot about it? So? That he even has it in the first place shows that he was moobs deep with the guilds which shows he was hardcore about WWE Champions.
If Phil wasn't so retarded and constantly jumping through hoops he could've probably come up with a passable cover story at the start of this whole drama. Off the top of my head I could see someone smart "humbling" themselves by saying something like "Yeah guys, I did play that game a long time ago. It really got a lot of money out of me because those things are predatory, thankfully my waif *thumb* got me the help I needed and I was able to sell the account and commit myself to fixing my financial issues." instead though he goes into total deny fucking everything mode. If he'd done something like the former he'd atleast be able to mount some kind of defense against about half the evidence, the Discord stuff is what really proved it was him imo.
 
Inb4 Phil says his phone got ILLEGALLY STOLEN and that he'd really appreciate it if you guys contributed to him so he can buy a new one. Preferably by tipping.
Tipping helps the most because they're funz I khan youse right away. Um, Twitch pays me monthly, so I won't get a check from them for like six weeks.
 
It probably helps him sleep at night having the separation between living and blowing money. He makes more than enough to live well off of subs alone, and then you have Bits, Patreon, Youtube, behind the scenes etc... he can use that to pay actual bills, buy food, vitamin gummies, whatever he needs. Then you have tips which he gets right away and he has marked to be spent right away, it is surplus money to throw into his addiction while he is in prestream or on a break.

A normal person that has one source of money, that being a real job, has to see the gatcha money being sucked out of the same pool of money they use for needed expenses. A normal person has to plan out the spending as they probably won't get paid for another two weeks. Phil's method of income really fuels his ability to spend spend spend.
 
If Phil wasn't so retarded and constantly jumping through hoops he could've probably come up with a passable cover story at the start of this whole drama. Off the top of my head I could see someone smart "humbling" themselves by saying something like "Yeah guys, I did play that game a long time ago. It really got a lot of money out of me because those things are predatory, thankfully my waif *thumb* got me the help I needed and I was able to sell the account and commit myself to fixing my financial issues." instead though he goes into total deny fucking everything mode. If he'd done something like the former he'd atleast be able to mount some kind of defense against about half the evidence, the Discord stuff is what really proved it was him imo.

NawtDSP screwed himself in a similar manner. Instead of saying. Oh yeah I was a fan of that handsome LPer DSP back in the day and I just picked this name in his honor he goes into shutdown mode and claims he's never heard of Phil and its just this jawsmacking coincidence. What a pattern. Its almost as if they're the same person.
 
If Phil wasn't so retarded and constantly jumping through hoops he could've probably come up with a passable cover story at the start of this whole drama. Off the top of my head I could see someone smart "humbling" themselves by saying something like "Yeah guys, I did play that game a long time ago. It really got a lot of money out of me because those things are predatory, thankfully my waif *thumb* got me the help I needed and I was able to sell the account and commit myself to fixing my financial issues." instead though he goes into total deny fucking everything mode. If he'd done something like the former he'd atleast be able to mount some kind of defense against about half the evidence, the Discord stuff is what really proved it was him imo.
no one would believe this unless it was accompanied by him showing his app purchases for the last few years until the last wwe purchase
 
When Phil says he will do something (Project7, have Kat do videos, green screen, clean his office) he never does.

Why should anyone believe when he says he doesn't do.something? I don't use discord, I don't play WWE Champions, I'm not getting married, I don't have a cat, I don't know what LINE is...
 
This "whale sighting" is quite the entertainment, perhaps more so than most modern television. What always gets me is that plenty of people work some shitty jobs for years and still make less than what Phil has spent, and will spend, on this worthless game. Even if Phil were to come out and admit he's the guy (which will never happen), it won't change anything. He'll still spend an exorbitant amount of money to acquire more JPEG's, though I bet Phil would prefer RAW JPEG's.
 
I'm not a member of the KOH forums. Not sure why you all constantly think there is some hidden dsp fan club constantly combing through kiwifarms with sock puppet accounts ready to go to post. I'm literally just a guy who saw Phil via youtube videos like mighty d and that's 100% a lie. I checked out his stream and mostly stay for the chat. I'm not a fan of dsp nor am i a detractor.

As far as my opinion on the wwe champions saga thing, I'll say that while initially I was very skeptical about all of this as I am with most troll information, the line account thing is pushing me to the side where dsp and guild dsp are the same person. the line acc is tied to his old/possibly current phone number and he did say that he played the game before. So it's possible that the line account was created a long time ago by him for his old wwe champions usage. We don't know a creation date for that account do we?

Also, I'm starting to agree that if the fact that the wwe champions account was created several years ago is true, then it's unlikely the account is a troll. Also, as someone mentioned earlier, there would be no need for the troll to change his name once caught.

But yeah, I don't know when the line account was created. if it was created a long time ago phil could just say it was for his old wwe champions usage. if its created recently and tied with the new faction, then yes, i would assume it's him because the line app requires phone number verification. Also the globally unique discord id thing is convincing as well, assuming its true.
Hate to be a dick but if you were introduced to the world of Phil via detractors then why were you skeptical about most "troll" information? If you are seeing Phil through the lens of detraction content then why do you suspect we aren't usually correct?

Also curious that both you and NotSharpie had their faith in Phil broken by this one straw of information out of the giant hay pile of information that has come out this year.

If it is you then I guess now you see what pigs can do. Stay away from the pignosis, it is the most powerful addiction anyone with poor money handling skills can have, better just to throw your money into a scrap eater.
 
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Hate to be a dick but if you were introduced to the world of Phil via detractors then why were you skeptical about most "troll" information? If you are seeing Phil through the lens of detraction content then why do you suspect we aren't usually correct?

Also curious that both you and NotSharpie had their faith in Phil broken by this one straw of information out of the giant hay pile of information that has come out this year.

If it is you then I guess now you see what pigs can do. Stay away from the pignosis, it is the most powerful addiction anyone with poor money handling skills can have, better just to throw your money into a scrap eater.

I don't see it as "a lens of detraction content". I saw the videos as funny. As far as why i don't suspect the trolls to be correct, thats because i find the trolls to be hypocritical in a lot of ways, exaggerate a ton of things, and find many trolls to be mean people.

For example, people shit on phil for asking for tips, when a ton of other streamers also collect tips. Even the biggest streamers like esfand and asmongold collect tips. What they don't do is mention tips as much as Phil does.

People shit on Phil for being unoriginal, but will go and praise detractor restreams, which are the epitome of unoriginality. The argument for the restreaming is "it makes phil's streams more bearable" but from what I have seen that is simply not true, just by the fact that the restreamer will constantly interrupt in some way. If you are watching a video and i come in and talk every 3 seconds in your ear, make an annoying noise, play a lawnmower noise, talk to you while the person in the video youre listening to is talking, it doesn't matter if you hate the video, you will find my antics more annoying simply because you can't even concentrate on the source material.

As far as exaggeration goes, I've said before that i've gone to phil's streams and participate in them, but ive also come back here and looked at Surly Muppet's recap or others' reactions, and they seem to be exaggerated, either out of anger or entertainment. Like phil could ban someone, make 1 comment, and move on with the stream, and the way it's written here is "PHIL WENT ON A BAN RAMPAGE ACK ACK ACK" when in reality someone in chat posts something phil doesn't like and he's just like "alright looks like we got another troll", bans them, and moves on. While it can be funny once or twice, it gets annoying and exhausting to read some overly drawn out explanation for every minor noise that phil does. Like Phil could say something as benign as "Merry Christmas!" and there will be another 50 posts saying "Didn't Phil say he didn't celebrate Christmas?", "Didn't Phil say X back in Y?", "Phil is just trying to pander to the audience", "Phil is lazy", "Phil is fake, he doesn't want people to have a merry christmas remember when he insulted that one guy 10 years ago?". "Phil rocks back and forth on stream, does he have a disease?" "I bet that disease is X, i know a guy who also rocks back and forth and he has X". It just gets annoying as fuck.

Another example is the "machine learning analysis" thing. I saw that message saying "if anyone had any doubt" and then a picture of powershell output with some mention of "coeus" and saying that the input text and test data are very similar. The point of that post was to say that guild dsp and phil are one and the same. At first glance, that image looked incredibly legitimate. But then I looked up this tool, and there is no mention of this tool anywhere for text comparison purposes whatsoever. Not on github, not on google, not some random university site, nothing. If this guy had written his own text comparison tool, it would be most likely using a model that is publicly available. The output of the script looked as if it was something general "Are you sure you didn't use the test input by mistake?". But I couldn't find anything on it. If the guy wrote his own text analysis model as well, it is odd and unlikely to me he would've included a statement like that. It's too formal for an adhoc test tool. That tool, which is paraded around here as one of the biggest pieces of evidence, seems like a complete farce to me. I could be completely wrong on that, but that is another reason i don't give 100% credibility to the trolls.
 
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I don't see it as "a lens of detraction content". I saw the videos as funny. As far as why i don't suspect the trolls to be correct, thats because i find the trolls to be hypocritical in a lot of ways, exaggerate a ton of things, and find many trolls to be mean people.

For example, people shit on phil for asking for tips, when a ton of other streamers also collect tips. Even the biggest streamers like esfand and asmongold collect tips. What they don't do is mention tips as much as Phil does.

People shit on Phil for being unoriginal, but will go and praise detractor restreams, which are the epitome of unoriginality. The argument for the restreaming is "it makes phil's streams more bearable" but from what I have seen that is simply not true, just by the fact that the restreamer will constantly interrupt in some way. If you are watching a video and i come in and talk every 3 seconds in your ear, make an annoying noise, play a lawnmower noise, talk to you while the person in the video youre listening to is talking, it doesn't matter if you hate the video, you will find my antics more annoying simply because you can't even concentrate on the source material.

As far as exaggeration goes, I've said before that i've gone to phil's streams and participate in them, but ive also come back here and looked at Surly Muppet's recap or others' reactions, and they seem to be exaggerated, either out of anger or entertainment. Like phil could ban someone, make 1 comment, and move on with the stream, and the way it's written here is "PHIL WENT ON A BAN RAMPAGE ACK ACK ACK" when in reality someone in chat posts something phil doesn't like and he's just like "alright looks like we got another troll", bans them, and moves on. While it can be funny once or twice, it gets annoying and exhausting to read some overly drawn out explanation for every minor noise that phil does. Like Phil could say something as benign as "Merry Christmas!" and there will be another 50 posts saying "Didn't Phil say he didn't celebrate Christmas?", "Didn't Phil say X back in Y?", "Phil is just trying to pander to the audience", "Phil is lazy", "Phil is fake, he doesn't want people to have a merry christmas remember when he insulted that one guy 10 years ago?". "Phil rocks back and forth on stream, does he have a disease?" "I bet that disease is X, i know a guy who also rocks back and forth and he has X". It just gets annoying as fuck.

Another example is the "machine learning analysis" thing. I saw that message saying "if anyone had any doubt" and then a picture of powershell output with some mention of "coeus" and saying that the input text and test data are very similar. The point of that post was to say that guild dsp and phil are one and the same. At first glance, that image looked incredibly legitimate. But then I looked up this tool, and there is no mention of this tool anywhere for text comparison purposes whatsoever. Not on github, not on google, not some random university site, nothing. If this guy had written his own text comparison tool, it would be most likely using a model that is publicly available. The output of the script looked as if it was something general "Are you sure you didn't use the test input by mistake?". But I couldn't find anything on it. If the guy wrote his own text analysis model as well, it is odd and unlikely to me he would've included a statement like that. It's too formal for an adhoc test tool. That tool, which is paraded around here as one of the biggest pieces of evidence, seems like a complete farce to me. I could be completely wrong on that, but that is another reason i don't give 100% credibility to the trolls.
Well, I mean Discord Phil and real Phil spell doxxed DOXXed, so that's settles the vocabulary thing for me
 
I don't see it as "a lens of detraction content". I saw the videos as funny. As far as why i don't suspect the trolls to be correct, thats because i find the trolls to be hypocritical in a lot of ways, exaggerate a ton of things, and find many trolls to be mean people.

For example, people shit on phil for asking for tips, when a ton of other streamers also collect tips. Even the biggest streamers like esfand and asmongold collect tips. What they don't do is mention tips as much as Phil does.

People shit on Phil for being unoriginal, but will go and praise detractor restreams, which are the epitome of unoriginality. The argument for the restreaming is "it makes phil's streams more bearable" but from what I have seen that is simply not true, just by the fact that the restreamer will constantly interrupt in some way. If you are watching a video and i come in and talk every 3 seconds in your ear, make an annoying noise, play a lawnmower noise, talk to you while the person in the video youre listening to is talking, it doesn't matter if you hate the video, you will find my antics more annoying simply because you can't even concentrate on the source material.

As far as exaggeration goes, I've said before that i've gone to phil's streams and participate in them, but ive also come back here and looked at Surly Muppet's recap or others' reactions, and they seem to be exaggerated, either out of anger or entertainment. Like phil could ban someone, make 1 comment, and move on with the stream, and the way it's written here is "PHIL WENT ON A BAN RAMPAGE ACK ACK ACK" when in reality someone in chat posts something phil doesn't like and he's just like "alright looks like we got another troll", bans them, and moves on. While it can be funny once or twice, it gets annoying and exhausting to read some overly drawn out explanation for every minor noise that phil does. Like Phil could say something as benign as "Merry Christmas!" and there will be another 50 posts saying "Didn't Phil say he didn't celebrate Christmas?", "Didn't Phil say X back in Y?", "Phil is just trying to pander to the audience", "Phil is lazy", "Phil is fake, he doesn't want people to have a merry christmas remember when he insulted that one guy 10 years ago?". "Phil rocks back and forth on stream, does he have a disease?" "I bet that disease is X, i know a guy who also rocks back and forth and he has X". It just gets annoying as fuck.

Another example is the "machine learning analysis" thing. I saw that message saying "if anyone had any doubt" and then a picture of powershell output with some mention of "coeus" and saying that the input text and test data are very similar. The point of that post was to say that guild dsp and phil are one and the same. At first glance, that image looked incredibly legitimate. But then I looked up this tool, and there is no mention of this tool anywhere for text comparison purposes whatsoever. Not on github, not on google, not some random university site, nothing. If this guy had written his own text comparison tool, it would be most likely using a model that is publicly available. The output of the script looked as if it was something general "Are you sure you didn't use the test input by mistake?". But I couldn't find anything on it. If the guy wrote his own text analysis model as well, it is odd and unlikely to me he would've included a statement like that. It's too formal for an adhoc test tool. That tool, which is paraded around here as one of the biggest pieces of evidence, seems like a complete farce to me. I could be completely wrong on that, but that is another reason i don't give 100% credibility to the trolls.

What detractors do is process phil's raw dogshit khantent into a far more economical form. If you have 4 hr a day to sit through 3:45 hr of snorts dead air and acking for the decent bits then good on you but more experienced fans of phil can get their khantent in 12 mins and move on with their lives to other things.

I agree restreams aren't for everybody's taste. they are mostly there for two reasons. For those who want to watch phil's stream, usually during a big event without getting phil more shekels and for those who are more interested in commentary on phil and examinations of the 'mind' of phil. So if you are only interested in seeing him say 'shitty dicks' and narrating whats on stream obviously you are not going to want someone giving a psychological discourse on narcissism over his snorting. But there are detractors releasing all sorts of khantent, not just restreams. I get everything through detractor channels and don't feel like I'm missing a thing, having gone to the Pigpen no more than I can count on my fingers. Maybe you just haven't looked hard enough. Or you just like wasting 4 hr a day watching phil fall asleep.

As for people being to hard on phil. Yeah maybe people sometimes exaggerate about surface level things but hear me out. While tractors do make a bigger deal on his surface level behavior than may sometimes seem warranted it is equally or more true that his scams and psychopathic behavior are surprisingly complex and multilayered. Phil is at first glance dumb as a box of doorknobs but he has a certain pig cunning and there is often a method to seemingly random or stupid things he does. It might be a completely dumb or crazy method but a method nonetheless.

Stuff that will shoot right by if you simply watch phil snorting on stream and only becomes apparent if you analyze together with a group of 'enthusiasts' like over here or a well crafted detractor video. Pigops is a onion where you peel back layer upon layer. Take this thread for instance. Phil gambles away money on a mobile game....great. Thats interesting if all you do is read the title but only by really digging in to this thread do you get the full feast of flavors of insanity and gory psychological details and microanalysis of incompetent flailing. The feast is ultimately what being a tractor is all about. And if there's anything this forum teaches us we're nowhere near fully probing the black hole that is Phil Burnell.

So we exaggerate but by the same mentality we also understand and 'celebrate' the life of Phil in away far beyond the level of the sad ignorance of a normie let along in the pignosis of the Pigpen.
 
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I don't see it as "a lens of detraction content". I saw the videos as funny. As far as why i don't suspect the trolls to be correct, thats because i find the trolls to be hypocritical in a lot of ways, exaggerate a ton of things, and find many trolls to be mean people.

For example, people shit on phil for asking for tips, when a ton of other streamers also collect tips. Even the biggest streamers like esfand and asmongold collect tips. What they don't do is mention tips as much as Phil does.

I just want to comment on the tips part. Heaps of streamers accept tips, but ive never seen anyone else make money and tip collection the entire point of the stream. every prestream phil says tips are not mandatory or "expected".. so why have a tips goal if youre not expecting people to give you tips, why cry and moan at every break if tips are slow. tips are definitely mandatory and expected, he even threatens to not play certain games anymore if tips are low multiple streams in a row. if phil just came out and said im playing games for you to make coin, so if i dont raise a certain amount then i wont be able to continue playing the game then at least hes being honest. its the bullshit "i love playing games" meme that gives me the shits because if he was so much in love with "playing games and having fun" then bits, subs and every other avenue of revenue should be more than enough. how many emergency fund raisers has phil had, how many videos telling off his youtube audience because they now need to step up and stop assuming his content is free, ive never seen another "content creator" act like this.

he deserves all the shit he gets in regards to his begging because its absolutely ridiculous and greedy. imagine begging for tips so he can buy "groceries" when you own 2 properties and live in a gated community. its just retarded.
 
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