2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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Following with my prior train of thought. THIS is how the american civil war looked:


And THIS is how the spanish civil war looked:


How the fuck did we go from that to this shit? I mean really, you can't tell me it's because they're fruits and boomers, looking at the spanish you'll realize even the glass wearing grampa in the blue coveralls looks fucking badass and even the young ladies look more masculine that flipping antifa over here.
Soy and demoralization, my fren.
 
exact, and that the evidence was enough so they are not allowed to deny a hearing!

one of the things I am reading is that Texas sent the case early to get a response if more evidence is needed for it to be heard, the response given is that the case will not be denied a hearing.

they are waiting for harm to happen, which only will once the federal election occurs, so relief can be given after electoral votes are cast.
There's a lot of talk about "standing". It just means the aggrieved (eg the injured ) party is the one to bring the lawsuit. Who has been damaged by the wacky election?

People who voted in the traditional way
People who voted in the nu Democrat way
People who wanted to to vote but couldn't

How were they damaged?

Vote was not counted
Vote was canceled
Voter was disenfranchised in some other way

What is the relief? Reinstating the old rules? Nullification? A new election? This suit just want the Electoral College sidestepped which is an unrealistic demand given that it's mandated by the Constitution and there's a remedy for that right inside the Constitution as well.

imo the lawsuits should have been brought by individuals and the suit certified as a class action. Perhaps the states could have joined as plaintiffs. The courts dismissed a lot of these without hearing them, which does happen in often in litigation and this is why you attack the issue by bring different actions. I think time is also an issue as these should have commenced the minute the states changed the election rules.

On this level the research that goes into crafting a memorandum of points and authorities can be intense because you not only have to prepare to argue your position and back it up with case law but you also have to anticipate the opposing side and knock down their arguments, using case law as well. Case law is everything in the Federal courts since 1776, could be issues that sprang up while we were still a colony, maybe some state law as well and even British common. law. Then you'd also have to know your Justices and how to appeal to one or several based on their judicial philosophy and rulings.

It's not for the low IQ. No computer or software program is powerful or sentient enough to replicate what a great attorney experienced in writing and arguing cases before SCOTUS could do. It's a very specialized area of US law and lawyers who practice in this arena have an army of associates/junior partners as well as clerks and interns doing the research or they're professors at a top tier law school with the best students researching and writing.

In other words the dismissal and its dissent, while not unusual, was to be expected.
 
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Trump should go full insurrection act. Trigger this war already. Charade has been broken and any attempts at legal maneuvering is meaningless.

I rather have open war then this political proxy war BS.

I dont want war at all but yeah :/
I don't want a war, and wishing for one is dumb and dangerous. But at this point, I don't think it's up to Trump. All of his supporters think that their voice has been silenced, their votes mean nothing and their country is about to be destroyed. It's either going to be a boring month or an insane one depending on whether they actually do anything about it.
 

did we see this video yet? election supervisor can change votes on the ballots.


I don't want a war, and wishing for one is dumb and dangerous. But at this point, I don't think it's up to Trump. All of his supporters think that their voice has been silenced, their votes mean nothing and their country is about to be destroyed. It's either going to be a boring month or an insane one depending on whether they actually do anything about it.

people who want a civil war are thinking daily life is going to be the same except with shootouts and antifa hung on lampposts. instead what's going to happen is that everyone is going to homeless wandering aimlessly at the mercy of whatever gang rolls around. i'd rather we have chazs where retards can go shoot and kill each other.
 
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Trump should go full insurrection act. Trigger this war already. Charade has been broken and any attempts at legal maneuvering is meaningless.

I rather have open war then this political proxy war BS.

I dont want war at all but yeah :/
Fedpost harder holy shit, if there was any time to act it was weeks ago and you lost any chance.
You and your leader gave up a long time ago.
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Ever had an ass hole sibling? The one who knew how to cross boundaries right up to the fine line? The millimeter hair thing one if crossed would make it socially acceptable to arrest him or beat his ass? Or how an abusive husband does their thing in a way were nothing can be done?

Its like that right now.

It would be better to go open conflict.

Im not advising it. I dont want it. But seriously stop with the teasing and get on with it already
Stop fedposting before this thread gets locked.
At this point, I think Trump's just trying to let everyone down slowly before going at the last minute "We did everything we could folks".
 
Stop fedposting before this thread gets locked.
At this point, I think Trump's just trying to let everyone down slowly before going at the last minute "We did everything we could folks".
Ok then. I dont think im fed posting. I think im describing the situation. Its not a peaceful democracy situation anymore. With senators ordering violence on competition but alright.
 
Thank you Biden voters for placing the United States under the control of my state, the greatest state in the union, Sovereign California. After Biden is discarded, Kamala/Pelosi and their angel of malediction Xavier Becerra will make you all wear the happy face.

We will have all the power (California is the largest importer of electricity!). We will have all the social influence.

California Uber Alles
 
If the Supreme Court didn't want to take up the Texas case for a good reason, fine. I'll accept that. I can already guess what it is now, but Joe Schmo on the street isn't going to figure that out unless it's in black and white on wikipedia.
I agree that standing doctrine has become a problematic morass at the federal level, but I do think it performs a vital gatekeeping function at its core. Courts shouldn't entertain suits from plaintiffs who have no injury that can be concretely causally related to the actions of defendant parties. It would cause many problems to relax or abandon standing requirements, not the least of which being that federal courts would essentially be in the business of issuing advisory opinions for people who have no skin in whatever they're litigating, rather than presiding over active controversies.

As far as the Texas case goes, it seems like you take issue with how cryptic the Court was in its ruling. I sympathize that it is frustrating to have little explanation for a ruling about what many people considered to be an extremely important case, but that is the nature of Supreme Court orders like this. They simply aren't going to write up a fully cited and reasoned opinion for an order declining to exercise discretionary jurisdiction. It's unsatisfying, but every Supreme Court case is unsatisfying for the losing party so that's nothing new. I also wish the Electors Clause questions would be answered, but it looks like I'll have to wait and see if they are ever taken up. I am interested in this idea, but there are no guarantees that it would work either:

imo the lawsuits should have been brought by individuals and the suit certified as a class action
 
I don't want a war, and wishing for one is dumb and dangerous. But at this point, I don't think it's up to Trump. All of his supporters think that their voice has been silenced, their votes mean nothing and their country is about to be destroyed. It's either going to be a boring month or an insane one depending on whether they actually do anything about it.
Ok then. I dont think im fed posting. I think im describing the situation. Its not a peaceful democracy situation anymore. With senators ordering violence on competition but alright.
lol did mad boomers initiate SEVENTEEN SEVENTY SIX ALL OVER AGAIN over the election of SEKRIT KENYAN MUSLIM BARRACK HUSSEIN OBONGO?

If not, why now?
 
Genuine question, how many of you Trump fans think the election is so rigged or the situation is so bad that Donald should cross the Rubicon and impose martial law to maintain power? Or that if these court cases don't go his way he should impose imperium?
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I asked this a week ago and I 100% called this thread totally falling into blatant fascism.
The funniest thing is at the time you all refused to answer me and be honest about your authoritarian dreams, but now you've gone "mask off" unironically calling for civil war and wanting Trump to "cross the rubicon".

Why can't you just be honest and say you're fascists?

Ok then. I dont think im fed posting. I think im describing the situation. Its not a peaceful democracy situation anymore. With senators ordering violence on competition but alright.
You are insane, stop using the internet and watching Newsmax
 
I asked this a week ago and I 100% called this thread totally falling into blatant fascism.
The funniest thing is at the time you all refused to answer me and be honest about your authoritarian dreams, but now you've gone "mask off" unironically calling for civil war and wanting Trump to "cross the rubicon".

Why can't you just be honest and say you're fascists?
c'mon, there's feds here posting for civil war but there's more people saying they don't want one.
 
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