2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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I don't get why some of you are sperging about being dunked on by "sore winners". It's like you have no sense of irony and don't remember 2016 at all.
It's more the aftermath and what comes after that win that changes the context and what action they plan to take overall that's the major difference here.
 
Galaxy-brained take by Robert Barnes:

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Standing rulings can sometimes be questionable (then again, so can alot of other procedural devices), but god damn Robert. This is basic 1L Civil Procedure stuff that he's just farting into the wind about.
The problem with standing is that it's arbitrary and a roundabout way of avoiding your actual reasonings; while doing long term damage to the legal system itself. I can fully understand consequential arguments like "states shouldn't be suing other states over who won elections, that's a nightmare precendent-wise." I think everybody involved in this - Drumpftards, Bidlets, Never Trumpers, and Antifascists - can all agree that not every single election should be a huge slapfight between states. But the simple fact is that those who make peaceful resolution impossible make violence inevitable. And no that's not glowposting, quite the opposite. In early modern era (18th century or so), personal disputes over slander and fraud would be handled with organized violence. Duels. And in earlier less honorable periods, with less organized violence like cattle raids and honor killings. Barbaric to our eyes, but these were how disputes were handled by humans in a state of nature. This is how humans react to these interpersonal conflicts by default - by our natural psychology and our genetic instinct. When we are slapped, we want to slap the other person not exactly as hard as we were slapped but as hard as we FEEL we were slapped. It is not in human nature to hang one's head and do nothing when we feel wronged, but rather to be moved to rash action and - for better or for worse - society has evolved in such a way where we no longer "have" to do that. We can resolve our disputes in an organized and non-violent fashion in courts.

And guess what standing does? It destroys that. You do want to give judges the tools to deny cases on relevance and the simple fact that if they did make a ruling they'd create serious legal consequences beyond the desires of either party involved; which "oh too bad no standing" does not properly articulate. It's like trying to talk to your parents as a child. "Why should I do this?" "Because I said so." Well that's not really a helpful fucking response, and just encourages the child to view you as a stubborn authoritarian acting without logic. Same thing here. Judges need to stop proclaiming from on high and just be fucking honest with the rest of the country. If the Supreme Court didn't want to take up the Texas case for a good reason, fine. I'll accept that. I can already guess what it is now, but Joe Schmo on the street isn't going to figure that out unless it's in black and white on wikipedia.

Just look at this case from the opposite end of things:

"We the plaintiffs feel the executive order will harm us in x, y, and z ways"
Judge: "Zzzzz... HUH? Oh, well... uhh... it's not directed at you, it's just a suggestion to the bureaucrats in the fourth estate to do stuff. NO STANDING!" [bang of gavel]
Yeah, real fucking helpful. So what will the tech groups do next? Probably either hide their activities or try to subvert the system. Great job at encouraging people to follow the law and respect authority there, judge.
 
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"As long as you put some soys/niggers/cops/glowies in the grave in Fortnite, it was worth it!" - some glowie LARPing as a schizo, 2021.
The demoralization on the right when Biden get's in will be unlike anything ever seen before.
Boomers ain't rising up for jack.
I'm not talking about boomers, I'm talking about the young supporters with nothing to lose.
 
So, this was a comment I found that has a convincing albeit I don't know if accurate, explanation of the Texas lolsuit


If it means what I think it means, (and I don't know anything about it) it seems Texas has a good case (I would therefore grant the motion to file the bill of complaint), and scotus will judge it, but the timing is not now and it has not been dimissed contrary to what the media has been saying.

Also, it seems that the references scotus makes to article III are clearly talking about punishment for treason.



I could say we haven't seen everything from this case yet, but time will tell.

Wasn't it filed under Article II and dismissed under Article III?
 
It's more the aftermath and what comes after that win that changes the context and what action they plan to take overall that's the major difference here.
It kind of isn't though; If Biden comes in and absolutely is a disaster and/or throws his core base under the bus that just makes the entire situation exactly the same as 2016, just with the parties reversed.
 
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So, this was a comment I found that has a convincing albeit I don't know if accurate, explanation of the Texas lolsuit


If it means what I think it means, (and I don't know anything about it) it seems Texas has a good case (I would therefore grant the motion to file the bill of complaint), and scotus will judge it, but the timing is not now and it has not been dimissed contrary to what the media has been saying.

Also, it seems that the references scotus makes to article III are clearly talking about punishment for treason.



I could say we haven't seen everything from this case yet, but time will tell.
The dissent Alito wrote, which Thomas agreed with, said they'd hear the case but that they wouldn't give them any relief prior to hearing the case, That's all.
 
It kind of isn't though; If Biden comes in and absolutely is a disaster and/or throws his core base under the bus that just makes the entire situation exactly the same as 2016, just with the parties reversed.
It depends, what if he (Biden) is a disaster on purpose, sure you could argue maybe that was Trump's intent too, but I don't think I follow that train with the actions taken.
 
Oh boy, I'm sure something will come from this obvious posturing.
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They look like if on one of those "modern urban warfare" videogames the dev tried to add a faction whose theme is "faggot",. And I kinda wanna see if someone can send us pics of the rooftop because it seems the figures are wearing some kinda grey and caps, which makes me think they're in full urban camo LARP getup. Which would be equally hilarious.

Man remember when civil wars at least had armies that looked kinda cool?

I hate to be that guy asking, but who is Qanon and why do people actually believe in it?

It started as a 4chan troll larp on pol.

And then people took it seriously.

And now we're here.

Boomers ain't rising up for jack.

They're rising up to demand to see your manager if their coupons expired. But actually protect democracy? Fat fucking chance.

The part about rising up for the coupon's aint even a joke btw, here in spain during corona back when the UME (emergency military unit) was aiding with disinfectation some karen actually tried to physically assault a soldier who was carrying a blasted g36 over some fucking supermarket dispute. Needless to say she got a pretty quick trip face first to the floor and was escorted out by the cops once they arrived, but it has to be the funniest shit I saw all year. What kinda lemming tries to punch someone carrying AN ASSAULT RIFLE because of some fucking expired coupons?!
 
The dissent Alito wrote, which Thomas agreed with, said they'd hear the case but that they wouldn't give them any relief prior to hearing the case, That's all.
exact, and that the evidence was enough so they are not allowed to deny a hearing!

one of the things I am reading is that Texas sent the case early to get a response if more evidence is needed for it to be heard, the response given is that the case will not be denied a hearing.

they are waiting for harm to happen, which only will once the federal election occurs, so relief can be given after electoral votes are cast, this is enought to give Texas standing in literally the same case.
 
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"RISKING"

Ehm excuse me we just saw the Poof Brigade and Grey Shirts taking fucking sides to shoot each other. half of Portland has been quite literally turned to ashes, "The Red House" is occupied by armed violent revolutionaries that have attacked the police repeatedly, there have been multiple political assassinations, and at least two attempted kidnappings of elected government officials.

WHAT PART OF ANY OF THAT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE "RISKING" IS THE WORD TO BE USED AT THIS POINT?!
 
So a new mafia is going to emerge?
Used to be a big true crime history nerd.
Been a while. What I remember crime families happen when a group cant trust the goverment and are discriminated against.

The mafia vanished when Italians were considered white and accepted. Same sorta happened with blacks.

So yes?

Or many little mafias. Crime going go up.
 
"RISKING"

Ehm excuse me we just saw the Poof Brigade and Grey Shirts taking fucking sides to shoot each other. half of Portland has been quite literally turned to ashes, "The Red House" is occupied by armed violent revolutionaries that have attacked the police repeatedly, there have been multiple political assassinations, and at least two attempted kidnappings of elected government officials.

WHAT PART OF ANY OF THAT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE "RISKING" IS THE WORD TO BE USED AT THIS POINT?!
Don't forget the current President getting sent two packages laced with poison.
 
That was quick.
Now it's time to see what Trump's response to this will be besides" I WON! BY A LOT!!"
Something in the lines of "they want a war, we'll give them a war." Assuming he takes the nuclear option.
"Democrats are criminals themselves and I'm fighting this through legal means" if no action is taken.
 
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Following with my prior train of thought. THIS is how the american civil war looked:


And THIS is how the spanish civil war looked:


How the fuck did we go from that to this shit? I mean really, you can't tell me it's because they're fruits and boomers, looking at the spanish you'll realize even the glass wearing grampa in the blue coveralls looks fucking badass and even the young ladies look more masculine that flipping antifa over here.
 
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