2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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your counterpoint is "official says x" . based on that can you explain the human errors that lead to the unbalanced book? no? then that link doesn't refute anything.

But it does add to my point that fraud is rampant and now there's a history of it.

coffee county certified despite the issue and investigation. brings the certification into question. this is why you can't use certifications as proof of anything.

where's the audits you claim you have? recounts =! audits
How do I explain the human errors? Dude, fucking research what happens in elections. "Human error" means someone counted wrong, carrier a number incorrectly, mismatched a name, forgot to count a ballot, whatever. They happen in every goddamn election, because humans are not perfect machines. You will find human error in every single one.
Seriously, is this your first election?

If the investigation in GA finds something, they can decertify it. If that certification stands, then yes, I can use it as proof - nothing was presented which suggested it shouldn't be certified.

A recount is by definition an audit. You are searching for one VERY SPECIFIC form of audit, which you have thusfar failed to convince any committee or court is necessary. You're not getting it, because you have yet to show that it would be useful. Shutting you up because you "promise" it will be enough isn't basis enough, and nothing has been substantiated beyond your whining.
 
There's something very touching about the people in this thread insisting that there's nothing wrong with the election and that America will just go on as it has before as eventually the supermajority of Trump voters who think it was rigged will get convinced by the likes of CNN and AP that everything is fine, despite the fact that those same sources completely failed to convince them not to vote for Trump
 
watch the wi livestream. could lead to something
Yeah, unless some major breakthrough happens, I think it's over for Trump winning this in any way outside of genuinely becoming a dictator. I'm talking about what the outrage over all of this will end up causing over the next few days.
 
wait are you THAT stupid? do you think I'm saying Biden won all 50?
I'm saying that your bad faith shines through a hackneyed phrase that doesn't make any sense on any level. You are that stupid for repeatedly saying that Trump lost 50-0 when he (and his surrogates) only posed challenges in six states.

Yeah just give the senate to doorknock and obsoff. There's literally no reason for the runoffs its over.
If you really wanted to do a "HERE'S HOW TRUMP CAN STILL WIN" at this point, you would argue that the retention of the majority allows for the possibility of leaving votes from controversial states uncertified in the Congress.

Of course, you have to consider whether or not the GOP as it stands even deserves the opportunity to contemplate something like that. They (and that includes Trump) hardly tried to push back against the setups of the mechanisms that lost them this election, fraud or not. This exposed the GA governor and SoS as lazy at best and bedfellows with the opposition at worst. This exposed the Michigan GOP to be moribund and incapable of even simply supporting its workers in comparison to the MI DNC-- in fact, they all receive that kind of support in the major cities like Philly or Detroit. They'll spout their rank-and-file's favorite catchphrases, take their money, and then go back to slobbering over their special interests while screwing over that same constituency with no push back against the sociocultural march of the Democratic party and trade deals/national security acts that actively screw everyone over-- whether or not we realize it now or a few years down the line.

If you vote these people in for any reason, you'll have to continue to vote for them just to hold the line because they're not going to do anything to solidify what can be considered gain to the people that elect them. And if all you need is for the line of something easily done and undone to be held, then that's fine. But I don't expect a Republican Senate to take into account the controversies in these states in order to force a contingent election (not that they should, since they don't have any favorable court cases to point to as hard support, even if the majority of these were dismissed on standing or muh laches). I don't expect them to constitutionally fix the number of justices that can sit on the SCOTUS bench in order to avoid court packing. I don't expect them to not slobber over Big Business' nuts as it continues to choke out middle America and the middle class. I don't expect them to make a definitive push back against the cultural insanity that's boiling over.

I guess what I'm saying is that, if I lived in GA, I wouldn't be motivated to vote.

defendent kawyer struggling to answeer questions about clerks filling out the witness info.
Expect dismissal because muh laches.

Or standing.

And if they do have undeniable standing, they'll just write a court order to have someone take a sledgehammer to plaintiff's lawyer's kneecaps and then dismiss the case because they're a cripple that can't stand.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0I5nuyrU3SY
Styx is making the argument SCOTUS threw out the case on a procedure basis and the case could be getting retooled under the proper plaintiff needed for SCOTUS to take it.

I can see his argument but I'm too worn out to be anything even resembling hopeful.
Styx's argument is exactly the argument that Giuliani was making last night.

Technically, it isn't "over." Styx and Giuliani are right about that. However, sadly, I think that the SCOTUS' actions (or, rather, inactions) have set a precedent for how they will be viewing the other lawsuits coming.

Last night, I know that Raz0rfist said something along the lines of how it would be worse for Trump if the SCOTUS has looked into the case and then ruled against him. With them fully dismissing the case without hearing any of the evidence, then that puts Trump in a position to keep piling on lawsuits. So, I guess that Raz0rfist is correct that this isn't technically over ... But I think a lot of people need to realize the huge loss that last night was.

The silver lining to the SCOTUS dismissing the case before even hearing it, in my opinion, is that Trump can now easily influence public opinion. There's been no court that has even bothered to look at ANY evidence. This only reinforces Trump's message of how everything was rigged against him, which will influence public opinion against Biden much easier. Trump is in a position to sabotage a Biden Administration in the court of public opinion.
 
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