1 killed, 2 in custody after gunfire erupts near downtown Denver rallies - ah shit here we go again

1 killed, 2 in custody after gunfire erupts near downtown Denver rallies - ah shit here we go again​

Police took two people into custody after a shooting occurred near the Colorado state Capitol that involved opposing protest groups

By: Bob D'Angelo, Cox Media Group National Content Desk
Updated: October 10, 2020 - 4:43 PM

DENVER — One person was killed and two people are in custody on Saturday after gunfire erupted near an area where protests between opposing groups in downtown Denver were occurring, authorities said.


The shooting occurred in the courtyard of the Denver Art Museum, KCNC reported.


A man participating in a “Patriot Rally,” which also included self-described Black Lives Matter-antifa protesters, sprayed mace at another man, according to the Denver Post. The man sprayed by mace then shot the first protester with a handgun, the newspaper reported.



The victim, whose identity has not been released, was transported to an area hospital and was later pronounced dead, KCNC reported.

https://twitter.com/denverpost/status/1315053544890826753

One of the two persons taken into custody was not involved in the shooting, according to the Denver Police Department.

According to a later tweet from police, “further investigation has determined the (other) suspect is a private security guard with no affiliation with antifa.”

Officials said more information will be released “as it becomes available.”

https://twitter.com/DenverPolice/status/1315046508572491776

The Patriot Rally was scheduled for 2 p.m. local time, KUSA reported. The counter protest, called a “BLM-Antifa Soup Drive,” began 30 minutes earlier at Civic Center Park, which is located next to the state Capitol, the television station reported.

Police, who earlier fired what appeared to be pepper balls at the leftist protest group, said they were working on a homicide investigation, the Post reported.

Several Denver police officers in riot gear were on the scene when the shooting occurred, KMGH reported. Witnesses said the victim was shot at point-blank range, the television station reported.

The Denver Police Department did not provide specifics about the shooting but released a statement.

“The Denver Police Department respects the right to peacefully assemble,” the statement read. “Those who participate in protests, demonstrations, marches, or other gatherings, as protected by the First Amendment, are reminded to do so in a lawful manner. Individuals who choose to act outside of local, state and federal law, will be subject to citation or arrest.”

https://twitter.com/BySajaHindi/status/1315081317315420160

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Viddy: https://twitter.com/i/status/1315110109303824384

Media is in full damage control, the shooter was a "random security guard" who attacked in "self defence" after being maced and is not affiliated with Antifa because Antifa does not exist and is just an idea.

Also Twitter celebrating the kill.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

They should really change the expression to "don't bring pepper-spray to a gun fight"

 

[Shield Breaker]

Uh. He had a can of mace in his hand ready to deploy and he hit him. That alone is enough to cross the "reasonable belief" standard that, hey, maybe this guy isn't going to invite me back to his place for a tea party. He is probably looking to do me harm. Especially the hitting bit.

We don't hit. It's sort of like a Rubicon in these use-of-force situations. Once you take a swing, your life becomes forfeit. You either win, have it deescalate, or die. All options are pretty shit.

Have I mentioned in the last dozen or so pages what a stupid idea it is to be at one of these poorly secured free-for-all riotous protests thingies? Feels like I should do it again.

Dude just because its an anti fag doing the shooting doesnt always mean it was a bad shot. If you mace someone they can shoot you for it. Go mace a cop and see if he doesnt shoot your ass. If someone comes up and shoots mace at me im mag dumping them too.

If someone attacked me with pepper spray I'd feel justified in replying with deadly force. Once they disable me with pepper spray they could do whatever they like to me. My life would be in danger for sure at that moment.

He's being held without bond for first degree murder, which suggests otherwise. He's a former OWSer with a tattoo that can be linked (legitimately or otherwise) to antifa. Unless he has a super lawyer or gets incredibly lucky with the jury pool, he's fucked.

 

[ddlloo]

If the 'security guard' was a cop in the exact same situation he would have been justified to use his firearm. A lot of the people cheering the guy on would be demanding a figurative death sentence in that case. Of course any number of things could come out about the shooter, or the victim, or the events of the day that ultimately change the perception of the situation but right now, like with a lot of police shootings, it seems a good example of 'play stupid games win stupid prizes'.

 

[axfaxf]

According to Memeology's vid on the topic, it's been used as an Antifa symbol. The text is likely something like "Space Invaders Against Fashism" or something like that.

that would be Safe Space Invaders, mind you

quite hilarious to see the justifications for use of lethal force tbqh. what a bunch of pussies, lol

 

[Kulee Baba]

If someone attacked me with pepper spray I'd feel justified in replying with deadly force. Once they disable me with pepper spray they could do whatever they like to me. My life would be in danger for sure at that moment.

Yes but in a crowded environment where police are literally everywhere?

That bullet could have easily richocheted and killed an innocent bystander. There's a reason why even Rudy Giuliani as mayor of NYC had strict gun control. Guns are not safe in crowded environments.

Both parties were clearly in the wrong and Denver fucked up royally to allow a Paul Blart be in that environment.

 

[JamusActimus]

The head shot is fucked up tho.
If you shoot someone in the head it's not about protecting yourself from harm but about killing someone.


There's litteraly no reason to head shot someone.

 

[spergetti & NEETballs]

The head shot is fucked up tho.
If you shoot someone in the head it's not about protecting yourself from harm but about killing someone.


There's litteraly no reason to head shot someone.

If you're going to use a firearm in self-defense, you'd better shoot to kill. Because the only reason you should ever use a firearm in self-defense is when you truly believe your life is in danger.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The head shot is fucked up tho.
If you shoot someone in the head it's not about protecting yourself from harm but about killing someone.


There's litteraly no reason to head shot someone.

On the other hand, we could shot in the dick instead of the head.

 

[GenericYuserName1997]

Video of the shooting:
Xz_AKjRPdkQPC_h7.mp4

That was a setup.

 

[TowinKarz]

These days, thanks to a multitude of government agencies abandoning their duty to keep these protests from becoming free-for-alls, the bar for "I was in fear of my life" is a lot lower than it SHOULD be, it used to be that shooting someone who punched you was a clear over-reaction because the thought was always "You think you were going to be beaten to death there on the sidewalk of a major city with police nearby?"

However, nowadays, with DAs and Mayors giving their full backing to certain groups, defunding the police and refusing to prosecute anyone with the "right" views (or railroad anyone with the wrong ones, even if they have to invent the evidence in the crime lab later) then I'd say yes, it is a reasonable assumption that you may in fact be beaten to death at a "protest" and nothing will happen to the one who did it, so shooting a person who strikes the first blow against you, no matter how seemingly inconsequential, is now a more viable and more excusable option.

The system is breaking down due to incompetence/malice by those that run it, and average people having about a quarter second to decide if they should employ lethal force or not is the result.

Anyone mad at this shooting needs to be even MADDER at the Mayors and DAs that have allowed this to become the new normal, in the hopes the system COMPLETELY breaks down so they can abandon Constitutionality completely and prosecute their political rivals and demographic enemies for wrongthink under the guise of fighting white supremacy... it's sickening.

When the courts decided to go woke, it was all over as far as expecting any sane treatment under the law...

 

[JamusActimus]

If you're going to use a firearm in self-defense, you'd better shoot to kill. Because the only reason you should ever use a firearm in self-defense is when you truly believe your life is in danger.

I understand that but why would you exchange accuracy for letality by aiming for the head?

 

[Getting tard comed]

He's being held without bond for first degree murder, which suggests otherwise. He's a former OWSer with a tattoo that can be linked (legitimately or otherwise) to antifa. Unless he has a super lawyer or gets incredibly lucky with the jury pool, he's fucked.

Kyle is being held for 1st degree murder too. His lawyers have raised 2mil but somehow haven't posted bail. Best not to count chickens before they hatch.

 

[John McAfee]

The head shot is fucked up tho.
If you shoot someone in the head it's not about protecting yourself from harm but about killing someone.


There's litteraly no reason to head shot someone.

You've never seen someone on pcp apparently.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

So I'm seeing conflicting info. Was the shooter private security, lefty or both?

 

[Exterminate Leftists]

The security guard had a rear mounted reflex sight on their handgun. I don't know about all security companies but I don't think most pay enough to allow their employees to carry a pistol with an rmr.

I carry a similar setup to this guy, it would only run you about $1,000. Looks like a glock 19 with a Triji and streamlight with suppressor height sights. A little Gucci but not mall ninja either.

Looks like he has an appendix holster. I didn't see him rack the gun but only a retard would carry on an empty chamber.

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

Yes but in a crowded environment where police are literally everywhere?

That bullet could have easily richocheted and killed an innocent bystander. There's a reason why even Rudy Giuliani as mayor of NYC had strict gun control. Guns are not safe in crowded environments.

Both parties were clearly in the wrong and Denver fucked up royally to allow a Paul Blart be in that environment.

You're right, in that situation, it maybe was not warranted. A group of antifa journos and fags confronting someone not cliqued-up, they did not have any reasonable fear for their lives. The murder victim however probably had reasonable fears, as antifa is known to attack in groups and willing to murder out of spite.

The police/city probably should not have approved both rallies for the same day. Clashes were inevitable, and the instigators are typically the state-sponsored, media-approved anarchist groups.

That was a setup.

After the hit in Portland that has to be a possibility.

 

[TowinKarz]

I understand that but why would you exchange accuracy for letality by aiming for the head?

Where the bullets land in a "panic shoot" situation don't necessarily prove anything... it's a lawyer trick to argue that a person shot in the head was somehow proof of malice on the part of the shooter when it reality, that's just where the RNG of life landed the bullet.

Unless they walk up to someone who's been downed/incapacitated and put the gun to their temple, you can't really "prove" a shot to the head was deliberate.

I was at the range one day watching the Sheriff's deputies qualifying with their pistols. One of the exercises was to draw and fire from the hip at a target about six to ten feet away, the idea being to simulate walking up to a person who unexpectedly has a weapon and having to shoot without the luxury of being able to aim down the sights. Anyway, one of the Deputies got a bad draw with his gun, I think he might have scraped the side of his own shirt with his thumb as he was bringing it forward, and that turned the muzzle of his gun up so that the shot he fired didn't hit centermass, but went right between the eyes of the target, he scored a clean headshot completely by accident.... and I can see a lawyer in court arguing that he was deliberately trying to execute a person, can't you?

The legality of a shoot is if it was justified, not the "score" of how accurate it was.

 

[Übertroon]

So I'm seeing conflicting info. Was the shooter private security, lefty or both?

Both most likely. I thought the tattoo was just the space invader alien, but there's text beneath it, that makes it very likely to be one of those leftie consoomer tattoos

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I see a lot of screens of the shooter's online posts but no once does he mention Pinkerton, not even in his LinkedIn. Was he or was he not legit Pinkerton?

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Open carry is illegal in Denver, tho'. He might still be fucked.

He's being held without bond for first degree murder, which suggests otherwise. He's a former OWSer with a tattoo that can be linked (legitimately or otherwise) to antifa. Unless he has a super lawyer or gets incredibly lucky with the jury pool, he's fucked.

He has the "correct" politics. He's going to be let off easy once the situation cools off.