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While doing some wild speculation in the Kevin Gibes thread, I came upon this informed consent document for estrogen transgender hormone therapy from the University of Iowa Health Care system. Nobody with a different option of any kind should ever sign a document like this. It is nothing less than a notice of experimental treatment. From the document:

"I know that the side effects and safety of these medicines are not completely known. There may be long-term risks that are not yet known."
"I know that the information in this form includes the known effects and risks. I also know that there may be unknown long-term effects of risks."

I am stunned it doesn't have a no-sue clause. It should, for sure. This is a "SAMLE", so maybe the final version does.
I know that companies can’t make you waive away all your rights to sue (like at a trampoline park, say). Does this also apply to doctors?
 
Whenever I see this "egg" bullshit in troon-world, this is what comes to mind:

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I'm shocked by how awful the scars from FTM top surgery are. Is it really that impossible to remove breast tissue without the massive thick and long scars all the way across the chest? I had always assumed it could be done somewhat like a liposuction with a smaller insertion point. Women who get breast reduction surgery don't end up with scars like that and I've even seen better mastectomies.

Another factor in addition to the ones already mentioned is that most FTMs are young mentally ill and/or austists— who aren’t exactly known for their adherence to great hygiene standards. There’s a lot of aftercare needs to get scars to heal well (along with the genetic roulette) and some of these gals don’t appear up to that task.

Case in point Colt Seidman, who has some of the thickest, gnarliest keloids I’ve ever seen. After the surgery she didn’t properly clean her wounds, gained a ton of weight which stretched out the already damaged skin, etc.
 
While doing some wild speculation in the Kevin Gibes thread, I came upon this informed consent document for estrogen transgender hormone therapy from the University of Iowa Health Care system. Nobody with a different option of any kind should ever sign a document like this. It is nothing less than a notice of experimental treatment. From the document:

"I know that the side effects and safety of these medicines are not completely known. There may be long-term risks that are not yet known."
"I know that the information in this form includes the known effects and risks. I also know that there may be unknown long-term effects of risks."

I am stunned it doesn't have a no-sue clause. It should, for sure. This is a "SAMLE", so maybe the final version does.

Score one for good ol’ Dr. Mengele who at least didn’t bother the people he was experimenting on with paperwork.

I’ll bet you both of my testicles that nobody ever reads the full document. They’ll skim the side effects at best and then go straight for the signature, because dozens of hours of brainwashing has convinced them that they know better and that this is the route to happiness.


Great Mermaids news.

The government told them indirectly to fuck off and now they did a 180 claiming no child is born in the wrong body.
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They are scared as hell.

Something happened there with Mermaids, and quite a few people seem to know about it or have heard rumors.

Start taking bets, folks!

A: Pedophilia: Somebody fucked some kids there.

B: Troon ran off with all of their cash.

C: Mermaids inadvertently helped 41% a troon in some way.

D: Criminal record. It got revealed that some of the top dogs have done jail tome. Probably for pedo shit.

E: All of the above.

F: Other.
 
I'm shocked by how awful the scars from FTM top surgery are. Is it really that impossible to remove breast tissue without the massive thick and long scars all the way across the chest? I had always assumed it could be done somewhat like a liposuction with a smaller insertion point. Women who get breast reduction surgery don't end up with scars like that and I've even seen better mastectomies.

The results look pretty much as horrific as I’d expect them to look. Scars are scars after all. But I think it’s a mixture of things.

There are several different procedures you can do. Which one they do is dependent on size, health and other things. Very few people qualify for the least invasive kind.


When they do the double incision one, they also REMOVE THE GODDAMN NIPPLES and either replace it with a tattooed nipple (Cause no one, clearly fucking no one could ever tell a tattooed nipple from a real one!) or do a whole nipple graft.

My skin literally crawled when I read up on these totally medically unnecessary procedures.

Oh yeah, as for why the results are so horrible, I think a factor is the kind of doctor they choose. Instead of going to a surgeon with lots of previous experience with mastectomies, lots of these yards probably go to special “gender clinics”. Where the doctor haven’t done hundreds of mastectomies, but is a plastic surgeon who decided to get in on a booming market.
 
I have some stuff to say. How can Aiden have a micro penis? How do you be FTM with an actual dick? How does it go in the pee hole? Did the bedicked Aiden come in his urethra? Because it sounds like he bladder spasms from cum getting into his bladder, this happens usually when men regurgitate semen into their bladders not from doing whatever the fuck this is. No you do not have a uterus. Also WTF.
 
Enjoy a reddit dump:


LOLOLOL! What exactly IS the significance of “transbians” in lesbian spaces? Do tell!


Me a few days ago: “Welp, finally got to the bottom of the tranny ride! Surely there is nothing that can surprise or horrify me any more!”

Me right now, after reading about a woman trying to fuck a man’s peehole with her clitoris: “This shit never ends, does it?”


I have some stuff to say. How can Aiden have a micro penis? How do you be FTM with an actual dick?

DEAR LORD! A time traveler from the distant past!! You must have come here from what... 2010? The early 2000’s? The 90ies?

QUICK! YOU MUST TRAVEL BACK TO YOUR OWN TIMELINE AND WARN THEM ABOUT THE TROON MENACE!!!

Also, buy some bitcoins!
 
Me a few days ago: “Welp, finally got to the bottom of the tranny ride! Surely there is nothing that can surprise or horrify me any more!”

Me right now, after reading about a woman trying to fuck a man’s peehole with her clitoris: “This shit never ends, does it?”
Ah, yeah. That was a bit of a rookie mistake on your part.

Remember, my friend: Mr. Troones' Wild Ride never ends.
 
I have some stuff to say. How can Aiden have a micro penis? How do you be FTM with an actual dick?
Taking testosterone as a female has the side effect of making their clit huge (this happens with bodybuilders on steroids too), so many FTM refer to it as their "bottom growth" or in this case, "micropenis."
 
Taking testosterone as a female has the side effect of making their clit huge (this happens with bodybuilders on steroids too), so many FTM refer to it as their "bottom growth" or in this case, "micropenis."

Yes, they legit call an inflated clit a “penis”.

MTF troons might seem like wackos, but from all I’ve seen, the FTM crowd is just as lunatic if not more.

Sterling example of troon logic for y’all to enjoy btw:

A man in a dress in his 40ies wonders why he doesn’t feel pretty or cute. How can this be?!?

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“I’m not my type.” LOGIC!
 
Taking testosterone as a female has the side effect of making their clit huge (this happens with bodybuilders on steroids too), so many FTM refer to it as their "bottom growth" or in this case, "micropenis."
The Aiden has a DSD, so it may be an actual dick. 5-ARD, CAH, PAIS could be possible conditions his partner has.
 
I have some stuff to say. How can Aiden have a micro penis? How do you be FTM with an actual dick? How does it go in the pee hole? Did the bedicked Aiden come in his urethra? Because it sounds like he bladder spasms from cum getting into his bladder, this happens usually when men regurgitate semen into their bladders not from doing whatever the fuck this is. No you do not have a uterus. Also WTF.
That's probably a guy with a micropenis calling himself a transman, or intersex at that, and it says trans woman so I'm guessing MtF, and the microdick guy fucked his dick-hole and came up in there?

Regardless of anyone's genitals involved my everything hurts just reading it.
 
Ok I did a bit of a deeper dive on one of the tik tok people I posted, and the dude seems like a full blown autist. He has a habit of just randomly twirling a sword around, wearing a horrible wig, and posting pics of himself pre "transition". It seems like he's "transitioned" since the start of covid, almost all of his vids are in his room so I'm thinking being cooped up might have made him sperg out or something. I think he really likes the validation(attention) trooning out has gotten him







 
I hope I'm not technically breaking the don't-tap-the-glass rule here, but I had a chance encounter with someone who was featured in this thread:

Late reply, but I notice that avatar immediately, the one with "being around ciswomen".
It's this person, kiva aka Battletech game designer troon out. The drama with Battletech game was letting players choosing pronouns for their characters.
Very narcissistic, love to have bunch of close up selfie of himself and refer himself as a girl, even though he is a 44 year old adult.

His "girlfriend" is also a troon.
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And the reply with "No cis woman" is none other than Secret Gamer Girl himself.
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I had never even heard of this person before. They had been arguing with someone who has their own lolcow thread on here, so I DMed them a description of it and link to it and nothing else, just thinking they'd find it funny. This is the very reasonable response I received:

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I LITERALLY sent a link!

The person whose thread I linked them to is a "cis-het" white male. I didn't provoke them in any way. I guess they just saw kiwifarms and went berserk.

Oh well, way to take kiwis and make lemons.

I'll delete my post of I'm violating any rules. I figured I probably wasn't since I came into contact with them entirely by coincidence. I only found out they were featured on this site after searching for their Twitter ID and "kiwifarms" on Bing.
 
Ok I did a bit of a deeper dive on one of the tik tok people I posted, and the dude seems like a full blown autist. He has a habit of just randomly twirling a sword around, wearing a horrible wig, and posting pics of himself pre "transition". It seems like he's "transitioned" since the start of covid, almost all of his vids are in his room so I'm thinking being cooped up might have made him sperg out or something. I think he really likes the validation(attention) trooning out has gotten him

Holy shit, that is one ugly looking tranny.

3/10 as a guy. 3/10 as a woman. At least he’s got consistency.

Damn, posts like that always give me the feels when I think about the parents.

Someone bore him inside of herself for nine month. Someone nurtured and loved that child, watched him grow, and had high hopes for him.

And then... The disappointment as he turns into a teenager, and you realize you’ve created a fat autist. Who then troons out, while checking every stereotype in the sped-troon checklist.

GodDAMN! That’s gotta be enough to drive a man or a woman to drink, or kissing the wrong end of a shotgun.
 
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There's a reason the smarter ftm troons bulk after surgery, if they can't get peri/keyhole.

I mean, it still looks fucked up, but the curvature of pectoral muscles helps somewhat hide the scar lines.

Granted, peri doesn't look "cis" either, largely because nipple size and placement aren't changed.


There are so few good, male looking top surgery results that I figure the prevalence of scars in art or whatever is a massive cope tbh. Even after years, the results still look off.
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This is after like 23 years of healing, by the way. The nipples still have that "healing" look, rip.
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I get why MtFs often feel resentful towards FtMs--FtMs can actually pass, shirtless with no makeup, no tranny angle, nothing.

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This dude's nipples are weird as fuck, but I notice that waaaay after I notice the fuckboi tribal sleeve, the 2005-ass haircut, the cum gutter hips, etc. I can't look at this pic and see a woman. I see a youngish twink who goes to the gym a lot. Shit's far from perfect, but mastectomy actually does a lot to help him pass, wall heart doily aside.


Meanwhile, in r/mypartneristrans relationship gore, the 45-year-old married closeted autogynephile is fishing for asspats. It's a wordy tale, but can anyone guess the shocking plot twist?

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He's been married eight years, and his wife just announced that she's pregnant with his child...but expects the reader to believe he was prompted to come out because he had a dream. He's incredibly confident that his wife will come around and accept him. Hope his wife can acquire a good divorce lawyer, and maybe some Cytotec too.

Also, what that mean, "we had an argument where I tried to take ownership of some of my mistakes?" Why would that prompt that response from his wife?

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From the same account. In other words, suck it up bitch! You've been trapped.
 

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I get why MtFs often feel resentful towards FtMs--FtMs can actually pass, shirtless with no makeup, no tranny angle, nothing.

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This dude's nipples are weird as fuck, but I notice that waaaay after I notice the fuckboi tribal sleeve, the 2005-ass haircut, the cum gutter hips, etc. I can't look at this pic and see a woman. I see a youngish twink who goes to the gym a lot. Shit's far from perfect, but mastectomy actually does a lot to help him pass, wall heart doily aside.
Despite what a lot of people would rather believe (that all ftms are uwu soft fakebois) T (and working out/bulking up) do a hell of a lot to mask more feminine attributes. It's harder to hide/undo what T has done than vice versa.

Pics related:
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If you look closely you'll see tells, but most people will see shirtless, flat chest, beard, short hair, male clothes, and think "man". Assuming the ftm in question doesn't get the squeaky Aiden voice from T, even voice won't be a giveaway.

On the other hand, mtfs either look like bimbo blowup dolls or men in wigs.
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If they look "cis," they look like extremely unfortunate women. There really isn't a win here.

Of course neither are going to ever actually be the sex they're trying to be, but if I had to pick which "works" better it makes sense that mtfs are bitterhons.

You might find a woman or gay man who'd at least be attracted to this:
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But never a straight man or lesbian woman who'd want to hit this:
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inb4 cherry picked: even most gaydens aren't physically repulsive, even if they are repulsive as people. Most mtf trannies are horrifying on deep levels.
 

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