r/mendrawingwomen - "STOP DRAWING WOMEN THE WAY YOU WANT TO"

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Jolyne-but-thicc said:
I took a quick and dirty dive through this subreddit and OH LORD was it great.

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The "complain about drawings of women" fandom has really confusing standards. I have a nagging suspicion that this Twitter person is probably just okay with this due to knowing a woman was the artist and having confirmation bias though. The Redditor is just wrong, and is clearly a fake fan.
 
Even though I don't really watch anime anymore, reading through this sub has made me hate the normie adoption of it. I hope the nips always keep the attitude of "fuck western piggu" when it comes to people trying to police their art.
 
Jolyne-but-thicc said:
I took a quick and dirty dive through this subreddit and OH LORD was it great.

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And how do they know there's no attractive, slim and trim woman underneath that suit?

Unless that's supposed to be a robot. Never heard of this character.
Doctor Placebo said:
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The "complain about drawings of women" fandom has really confusing standards. I have a nagging suspicion that this Twitter person is probably just okay with this due to knowing a woman was the artist and having confirmation bias though. The Redditor is just wrong, and is clearly a fake fan.
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How is that any different from any other scantily clad anime girl? These people have very weird double standards.
 
Ramen Timer said:
And how do they know there's no attractive, slim and trim woman underneath that suit?

Unless that's supposed to be a robot. Never heard of this character.

How is that any different from any other scantily clad anime girl? These people have very weird double standards.
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She gets injured and the suit gets ripped open, it only showed a black void in a way that made me assume she absorbed her own body with her powers or something when I saw it. You can see her normal-sized shins making this a likely scenario.
 
From the depths of my memory I remembered Kate Beaton's "strong female characters" comic http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=311

And much to my shock it dates from... 2011.

I tend to think all this shit started with Sarkessian in 2012, but here's a comic from 2011 and there's another similar comic from the same year (I forget by who)

I find it just utterly fucking nauseating to think this shit has been going on for almost a full decade, also, why did the 2010s start sucking almost as soon as it hit the ground running?
 
here's a meme that was cross-posted on r/mendrawingwomen from r/ComedyNecrophilia
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the cross-post said something like "Ummm, how do we make this a female, Ummm, just give it eyelashes"
the issue is that the other peashooter is called green shadow and is from the PvZ spin-off "plants vs zombies heroes"
here is what she looks like
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(I can see her being posted on r/mendrawingwomen with the positivity tag)
the image used in the meme is from rule 34, I will not posted in here due to me being in school, and this time I WILL not edit it in unlike last time

r/mendrawingwomen has a rule, do not post porn
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this is crop porn, let me repeat, crop porn, this kinda breaks the rule but this just proves that r/mendrawingwomen doesn't do research on shit
 
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Doctor Placebo said:
I'm pretty sure these people consist entirely of fatties, ugos, non-passing trannies, and guys with deep seated issues about women, which they're passing off as woke, so that's absolutely right. In an earlier era these people would be religious zealots raging about outfits that don't cover the ankles. The method is different but the motivation is the same. Feminine beauty scares them or makes them seethe with jealousy.


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I would agree. Anyone whos spent any time on the internet before photoshop became huge. They know that life isn't fair. Genetics aren't fair. Some people will just get amazing bodies and/or faces because their genetics predisposes them to it. Anyone arguing against this is some sort of narcissist attempting to emotionally cope with not being a hottie, either a tranny or a pudgy girl, and don't have the money to go under $100,000 worth of surgery.

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Doctor Placebo said:
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The "complain about drawings of women" fandom has really confusing standards. I have a nagging suspicion that this Twitter person is probably just okay with this due to knowing a woman was the artist and having confirmation bias though. The Redditor is just wrong, and is clearly a fake fan.
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Don't they still hate Bayonetta even after they acknowledge that she was made by a female designer?
 
Dom Cruise said:
I find it just utterly fucking nauseating to think this shit has been going on for almost a full decade, also, why did the 2010s start sucking almost as soon as it hit the ground running?
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This sort of "muh realistic bodies" is vintage pre-Gamergate SocJus stuff, almost quaint when SJWs are screaming bloody murder on Twitter or outright beating people in the streets with the full backing of major corporations. With how SJWism acts since 2017 or so, I really want to go back to times when this was peak SJW content and people just laughed at them.
 
Save the Loli said:
This sort of "muh realistic bodies" is vintage pre-Gamergate SocJus stuff, almost quaint when SJWs are screaming bloody murder on Twitter or outright beating people in the streets with the full backing of major corporations. With how SJWism acts since 2017 or so, I really want to go back to times when this was peak SJW content and people just laughed at them.
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It's just so bizarre to me that people arbitrarily decided to get a stick up their ass about sexy female characters because the date changed from 2010 to 2011, you never heard anything about it in 2010 and then WHAMMO 2011 rolls along and suddenly you have shit like that, like people actually sat around and said "ok, for this decade we want everything to be lame and watered down", just why?

Of course it wasn't all instantaneous because in 2011 you also had Duke Nukem Forever and Catwoman's giant ass in Arkham City, I'm not even sure I can say I heard about anything like the Kate Beaton comic until 2012, I don't think I saw that comic until way later, which is why it surprised me it's as old as it is.

But nevertheless 2011 is obviously when the seeds were laid, one thing I do remember hearing about back then was the "slutwalks"

Another early warning sign of the direction things would take is Bronies really exploded in 2011.

I get nostalgic for 2011/2012 now because they seem preferable to what came later, but it's depressing to be reminded that at no point was the 2010s ever a great decade.
 
I got into the discord server (which was the easiest thing ever to do) and it just a normal discord server, no one bitching about art, nothing, it even has an NSFW chat, which is weird because of their track record and also, I have a feeling that most people in the subb
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this looks like it comes from a cheap flash show made for girls from the 2000s where the main female characters only talk about boys, drama, makeup, boy band, and shopping and the cheerleader is a bitch, the main female crush is a jock.
 
I think one thing I hate so much about the Kate Beaton comic and the attitude it and this subreddit represents is this, sexy is cool, for female characters sexy is the equivalent of John Rambo strapping a bandana to his head and firing a machine gun, sexy is just what resonates for female characters.

So when people designed sexy female characters. they were just trying to make them cool, it's not a SLAM against women, it's the opposite, a celebration of women and cunts like Beaton take that and mock it and denigrate it, that's just disgusting.

Sexy is strong, sexy is cool, sexy is badass, if you're so insecure that you can't understand that about female characters you need to take a look at yourself and ask yourself why you're so insecure.
 
Dom Cruise said:
I think one thing I hate so much about the Kate Beaton comic and the attitude it and this subreddit represents is this, sexy is cool, for female characters sexy is the equivalent of John Rambo strapping a bandana to his head and firing a machine gun, sexy is just what resonates for female characters.

So when people designed sexy female characters. they were just trying to make them cool, it's not a SLAM against women, it's the opposite, a celebration of women and cunts like Beaton take that and mock it and denigrate it, that's just disgusting.

Sexy is strong, sexy is cool, sexy is badass, if you're so insecure that you can't understand that about female characters you need to take a look at yourself and ask yourself why you're so insecure.
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Sexy is also a demonstration of female power.

Particularly in fiction, the dichotomy between the sexes is that men are good at hard power and women are good at soft power. For every story of a roided up 80s action hero racking up a kill count in the triple digits, there's a story about a woman seducing, outsmarting, or fooling the pants out of someone. Even in action-packed stories with a female main character, there's often a theme of the woman winning through smarts, charisma, planning, training and equipment (intelligently using the world around her as force multiplier), as opposed to just shooting all the baddies and tanking all the shots (winning through sheer brute strength).

The idealized male form is big and strong, because the idealized male hero is big and strong and able to wield a lot of raw power in order to win, and a strong man looks good to most people. The hero will invariably end up in fisticuffs with the big and strong villain over a pit of lava. The idealized female form is sexy, because the idealized female hero doesn't need those bulging muscles, and a sexy woman looks good to most people. And yet, despite not being a pile of muscles, the heroine will still beat the big and strong villain in a million different ways.

This is one of the reasons why I can't be assed to read the current crop of "woke" stories: so many of them have the main female character be basically just a dude with tits, without any brains to her tactics. If I wanted to see someone spouting empty edgy one-liners and shooting people, I'd read the Punisher. If you're going to make a female brick shithouse that wins by beating the crap out of the other guy (those are fun, no mistake), at least include interesting personality traits and flaws*. Wonder Woman's idealism and dedication to duty. She-Hulk's humor. Lara Croft's wit. Starfire's naivete.

But nope, female heroines keep getting slotted into two uninteresting archetypes: Mary-Sue she-dude (Captain Marvel) and Mary-Sue insufferable annoyance (America Chavez). Even X23's brooding and difficulty understanding the world around her makes her more flavorful than the economy-sized bucket of Crisco female heroines are scooped out ot these days.

* That also applies to male characters. If you're going to come up with a protagonist, for the love of God make them interesting first, then decide which stupid Pride flag they'll be flying.
 
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Corn Flakes said:
Sexy is also a demonstration of female power.
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And it's just completely insane to me that people would get the idea in their head that it's the opposite, that sexy is a sign of weakness, instead of a demonstration of power.

A good example of that is the character Ivy in the Soul Calibur video game series, she wears the least clothing of any of the female characters, but her whole schtick is being a dominatrix type, she dominates her opponents in a way none of the other female characters do, the fact that she fights in a thong is part of what makes her a domineering badass, it's anything but a sign of weakness.

Again I have to go back to my comparison to Rambo shirtless and wielding a machine gun, there's something primal about the bare human body, both male and female, while "technically" this may be weakness compared to armor or whatever, on a psychological level it registers as badass because it's saying you don't need any sort of a protective armor, you're a big enough badass to win without it.

A female character being able to kick your ass while wearing what's basically lingerie or swimwear is way more badass than someone who's all covered up.

There's just certain things that resonate on a primal level, big muscles, big breasts, big asses, the traditionally beautiful female form of the big bust, small hips, large posterior etc is fundamentally no different than a muscled Adonis male form, big, beautiful, larger than life bodies are simply exciting, all SJWs have done is made media more watered down, bland and boring.
 
Dom Cruise said:
Of course it wasn't all instantaneous because in 2011 you also had Duke Nukem Forever and Catwoman's giant ass in Arkham City, I'm not even sure I can say I heard about anything like the Kate Beaton comic until 2012, I don't think I saw that comic until way later, which is why it surprised me it's as old as it is.
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That stupid Beaton comic was also around the time where people started acting like the very idea of disagreeing with a woman or even just discussing anything with them was a mortal sin that was akin to physically assaulting them. This was also back when you could still be a little surprised at how many pathetic, weaselly men came scuttling out of the woodwork to defend this kind of woman every time they cried victim over the slightest pushback or disagreement.

It still disappoints me how many people just went along with that bullshit back then.
 
Dom Cruise said:
And it's just completely insane to me that people would get the idea in their head that it's the opposite, that sexy is a sign of weakness, instead of a demonstration of power.

A good example of that is the character Ivy in the Soul Calibur video game series, she wears the least clothing of any of the female characters, but her whole schtick is being a dominatrix type, she dominates her opponents in a way none of the other female characters do, the fact that she fights in a thong is part of what makes her a domineering badass, it's anything but a sign of weakness.

Again I have to go back to my comparison to Rambo shirtless and wielding a machine gun, there's something primal about the bare human body, both male and female, while "technically" this may be weakness compared to armor or whatever, on a psychological level it registers as badass because it's saying you don't need any sort of a protective armor, you're a big enough badass to win without it.

A female character being able to kick your ass while wearing what's basically lingerie or swimwear is way more badass than someone who's all covered up.

There's just certain things that resonate on a primal level, big muscles, big breasts, big asses, the traditionally beautiful female form of the big bust, small hips, large posterior etc is fundamentally no different than a muscled Adonis male form, big, beautiful, larger than life bodies are simply exciting, all SJWs have done is made media more watered down, bland and boring.
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I remember reading one of the runs of Red Sonja (I don't remember which) a few years ago and a little exchange stuck with me ever since.

IIRC, Sonja was traveling with a girl she had rescued, and the girl asks why Sonja wears little more than a chainmail bikini and a cloak. The girl then speculates that Sonja does it in order to compensate for her trauma of being raped as part of her origin story.

Sonja replies that the girl's theory might be correct. Or, she might be wearing that revealing an outfit in order to draw out and slay those who would try to force themselves upon women. She knows she's good enough not to need any armor to do it, and so she doesn't wear it. She's comfortable with what she has on, she's confident enough to use herself as bait to take out evil men, and it works out for her. The girl ends up a bit frightened by the explanation.

You wouldn't be able to write a story like that these days.

Mysterious Girlfriend X said:
That stupid Beaton comic was also around the time where people started acting like the very idea of disagreeing with a woman or even just discussing anything with them was a mortal sin that was akin to physically assaulting them. This was also back when you could still be a little surprised at how many pathetic, weaselly men came scuttling out of the woodwork to defend this kind of woman every time they cried victim over the slightest pushback or disagreement.

It still disappoints me how many people just went along with that bullshit back then.
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It goes to show that simps aren't a new phenomenon. Men debasing themselves for female approval is a trope as old as time itself. As I said, soft power.
 
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