🦊 Furry Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

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Howlfest is doomed to fail for many reasons but I applaud their ability to completely fuck up a t-shirt run.

Even Null can ship merch despite getting blocked by every payment processor in the world.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again, this con sounds like a money making scam at best.

Chise still uses her personal twitter to do everything con related. They don't have a formal website or trademark. They have no legal team or secretary. They're just milking kofi donations which you can see from Chise's timeline that she's spending on $400 plushies and art commissions. Her messages outright state she admits she can't handle her job and managing communication at the same time.

This whole con is giving me major dashcon deja vu. An incompetent chair who got caught up in a hype and thought she could do better. If this was any other con it would have gone up in flames already, at this point I'm frustrated to see bipoc furries be taken advantage of like this. They're so desperate they'll overlook anything.
 
chise tweeted this with her side of the story
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Addressing RJArtistryy/Maul Apparel

Addressing @RJArtistryy/Maul Apparel Concerning the thread created by RJ, I wanted to open this by expressing my sincerest apologies for my delays in communication and responding to messages in a timely manner. I work a full-time job as a Molecular Biologist with very strenuous hours due to the...
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i’m on mobile right now and don’t feel like dealing with archive on it.
but what amazes me is that everyone seemed to know that RJ is dalmy who’s known to run scams and bareback pozzer parties. she was quick to say yes because he’s black, no other research behind him or his company.
 
★ Lion ★ said:
chise tweeted this with her side of the story
docs.google.com

Addressing RJArtistryy/Maul Apparel

Addressing @RJArtistryy/Maul Apparel Concerning the thread created by RJ, I wanted to open this by expressing my sincerest apologies for my delays in communication and responding to messages in a timely manner. I work a full-time job as a Molecular Biologist with very strenuous hours due to the...
docs.google.com docs.google.com
i’m on mobile right now and don’t feel like dealing with archive on it.
but what amazes me is that everyone seemed to know that RJ is dalmy who’s known to run scams and bareback pozzer parties. she was quick to say yes because he’s black, no other research behind him or his company.
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I haven't read through this yet, but archived the tweet and downloaded the google doc as a pdf for the sake of preservation
 

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★ Lion ★ said:
chise tweeted this with her side of the story
docs.google.com

Addressing RJArtistryy/Maul Apparel

Addressing @RJArtistryy/Maul Apparel Concerning the thread created by RJ, I wanted to open this by expressing my sincerest apologies for my delays in communication and responding to messages in a timely manner. I work a full-time job as a Molecular Biologist with very strenuous hours due to the...
docs.google.com docs.google.com
i’m on mobile right now and don’t feel like dealing with archive on it.
but what amazes me is that everyone seemed to know that RJ is dalmy who’s known to run scams and bareback pozzer parties. she was quick to say yes because he’s black, no other research behind him or his company.
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I like how neither of them don't actually say sorry at any point in this for the lack of communication, but "take responsibility" instead. Very professional!

The whole con feels ridiculously unprofessional. Everyone seems to be first time con runners with not even a mild understanding of how any of this works. Like how they didn't wanna create a contract for a one off thing (which they absolutely SHOULD'VE before money was given to anyone, no matter the circumstances). The comparison to Dashcon is on point; Running a convention is a lot more difficult than anyone realizes but it's not an excuse to at least put in the effort and time to get people onboard who have so they can guide the board and team. Someone would've warned them about RJ/Maül, and know a better T-Shirt manufacturer to go with. Or just made a contract where only the profits go to HMHF, or whatever. Other people would be around to oragnize things so someone with a fulltime job isn't struggling to organize everything. And someone would tell them that the money for the con needs to be in a seperate account, and not in the pockets of some of the con staff. They're treating it like another furrmet or a hangout and it's doomed to fail as a result. Thats why you don't just pick your staff based on their skin colour; you pick people that know their shit.

On the upside watching Dashcon happen in realtime was a treat and I cannot wait to experience this one in a few years
 
Womanhorse said:
I like how neither of them don't actually say sorry at any point in this for the lack of communication, but "take responsibility" instead. Very professional!

The whole con feels ridiculously unprofessional. Everyone seems to be first time con runners with not even a mild understanding of how any of this works. Like how they didn't wanna create a contract for a one off thing (which they absolutely SHOULD'VE before money was given to anyone, no matter the circumstances). The comparison to Dashcon is on point; Running a convention is a lot more difficult than anyone realizes but it's not an excuse to at least put in the effort and time to get people onboard who have so they can guide the board and team. Someone would've warned them about RJ/Maül, and know a better T-Shirt manufacturer to go with. Or just made a contract where only the profits go to HMHF, or whatever. Other people would be around to oragnize things so someone with a fulltime job isn't struggling to organize everything. And someone would tell them that the money for the con needs to be in a seperate account, and not in the pockets of some of the con staff. They're treating it like another furrmet or a hangout and it's doomed to fail as a result. Thats why you don't just pick your staff based on their skin colour; you pick people that know their shit.

On the upside watching Dashcon happen in realtime was a treat and I cannot wait to experience this one in a few years
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In other KF forums discussing the current riots in Portland, and elsewhere, posters frequently comment that the leftists and communists are basically nothing more than LARPers with too much zeal and absolutely no experience in staging a revolution.

Nice to see that leftist furries behave the same way in setting up a BIPOC Convention; they’re basically just LARPing at being convention heads, Caught up in the revolutionary fervor and mass hysteria of going out of their way to prove that black pervert and degenerate furry lives matter, or… something.
 
camopattern said:
I woke to this shit


I took a look at the camp website, which is web 1.0 garbage at best. Looks like they only have 13 cabins and they come straight out of a horror movie.


The most interesting part of this campsite is their no judge policy. A quick Google search revealed they have hosted everything from fetish festivals to hilariously white supremacy gatherings.

Here's a link to the sex festival that takes place there every year, other than howl fest of course
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I might join this just to see the disaster before my eyes. If I do, I'll be sure to document fucking everything. Pray for me.
 
More drama concerning Howlfest, ooh-oh boy. Chise on behalf of the Con has filed a complaint. is encouraging customers to make a complaint on where the profits for the shirts went, as it is apparently violating some sort of Charity Laws in Ohio.
They're claiming Maul has incorrectly and falsely presented the production costs so that only 10% or less has been donated to the con. So they're taking action by reporting it to Ohio State.

Original Post https://twitter.com/Painteddoq/status/1300475799749959688 - [Archive]
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Chise's response https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1300481701257383936 - [Archive]
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Chise's tweets. https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1300488216118607872 - [Archive]
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Maul apparel donate to Chise's personal Paypal and not a charity one? Surely that'd invalidate any claim to the donation as they aren't even registered as one? And it got sent to a personal account?
 
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Pax Europaea said:
More drama concerning Howlfest, ooh-oh boy. Chise on behalf of the Con has filed a complaint. is encouraging customers to make a complaint on where the profits for the shirts went, as it is apparently violating some sort of Charity Laws in Ohio.
They're claiming Maul has incorrectly and falsely presented the production costs so that only 10% or less has been donated to the con. So they're taking action by reporting it to Ohio State.

Original Post https://twitter.com/Painteddoq/status/1300475799749959688 - [Archive]
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Chise's response https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1300481701257383936 - [Archive]
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Chise's tweets. https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1300488216118607872 - [Archive]
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Maul apparel donate to Chise's personal Paypal and not a charity one? Surely that'd invalidate any claim to the donation as they aren't even registered as one? And it got sent to a personal account?
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RJ deleted the callout thread on Chise and Howlfest.
 
Pax Europaea said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Maul apparel donate to Chise's personal Paypal and not a charity one? Surely that'd invalidate any claim to the donation as they aren't even registered as one? And it got sent to a personal account?
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chise is the charity now. how else will she afford all those expensive commissions.
 
camopattern said:
This whole con is giving me major dashcon deja vu. An incompetent chair who got caught up in a hype and thought she could do better. If this was any other con it would have gone up in flames already, at this point I'm frustrated to see bipoc furries be taken advantage of like this. They're so desperate they'll overlook anything.
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I'm not. This was a highly racist/segregationist undertaking to begin with and "bipoc" furries deserve every bit of chagrin they get for buying the lie that being black in the furry fandom is somehow harder than being white. Who exactly is oppressing them in this largely leftist community?
 
round robin said:
I'm not. This was a highly racist/segregationist undertaking to begin with and "bipoc" furries deserve every bit of chagrin they get for buying the lie that being black in the furry fandom is somehow harder than being white. Who exactly is oppressing them in this largely leftist community?
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why, the one guy in a confederate fursuit who is now banned from everywhere lol
 
FursuitSerialKiller said:
Oh god please let the noteworthy BIPoC furs get into conflict with Chipfoxx's defense force.

I mean, the primer is all set: he and his wife, being rich white midwesterners, didn't give a rats ass about nonwhites in the fandom and mishandled a situation with a BIPoC fur that trans chaser Carcin made exponentially worse. Then you've got Pibblebitch who is very obviously unbalanced and dealing poorly with her problematic friendships (defending her dogfucker friend Hoot while maintaining clout against accusations of "zoo apologist"), she could be the match that sets the whole powderkeg off.
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With all the civil (and possibly criminal) clusterfucks Chipfoxx instigates, the risk of major legal repercussions can potentially bankrupt him, he must be one sheltered trust fund baby to be that reckless.

Cons can sue him for lost attendance and revenue from his calls to boycotting them over "racisim" which he never seems to be able to prove.
 
D.Va said:
why, the one guy in a confederate fursuit who is now banned from everywhere lol
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...Magnus.
You know, I’d be tempted to say I’d pay for his registration/hotel or whatever if this thing was to ever happen, just so I could see the look on their faces when a literal Confederate Flag wolf comes strolling through the lobby wearing a Trump hat.
 
JethroTullamore said:
...Magnus.
You know, I’d be tempted to say I’d pay for his registration/hotel or whatever if this thing was to ever happen, just so I could see the look on their faces when a literal Confederate Flag wolf comes strolling through the lobby wearing a Trump hat.
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Ah the priceless look of a bunch of mostly white gay men concealing themselves in sexually suggestive animal costumes calling each other "racists".
 
KrabFish said:
With all the civil (and possibly criminal) clusterfucks Chipfoxx instigates, the risk of major legal repercussions can potentially bankrupt him, he must be one sheltered trust fund baby to be that reckless.

Cons can sue him for lost attendance and revenue from his calls to boycotting them over "racisim" which he never seems to be able to prove.
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Care to dish? I know he got pretty close to trouble for doxxing someone once and supposedly he's been supporting carcin somehow, but beyond him being a garden variety trans fetishist making government money and living that full lifestyler fantasy in full view for all the white trash furs to suck up to, I dunno any other trouble he got close to.

I'd love to see the BIPoC furs rip him out of frame.
 
FursuitSerialKiller said:
Care to dish? I know he got pretty close to trouble for doxxing someone once and supposedly he's been supporting carcin somehow, but beyond him being a garden variety trans fetishist making government money and living that full lifestyler fantasy in full view for all the white trash furs to suck up to, I dunno any other trouble he got close to.

I'd love to see the BIPoC furs rip him out of frame.
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He might not have a government job for long, it's only a matter of time before his HR or some co worker he pisses off comes across all this

There was unconfirmed reports he's mostly living off of trust funds, true or not, he seems to set himself up for so much expensive legal repercussion
 
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