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[Ceci]

Well Joe Rogan was right when he pointed out that there is a creepiness to men. But these women think gay men are harmless and if they become like them they are finally treated as equals. But we all know how fucking deranged gay men can be like.

I think the issue is more that they percieve straight men as scary because the man is the "dominant" one in the heterosexual relationship, while the woman is supposed to be "submissive". There's a societal expectation that the man is the one who makes the decisions, and the woman is the one who agrees with him, which of course many young women would be uncomfortable men. Obviously gay relationships can have power imbalances as well, but there's less of a notion that one half of the relationship is supposed to be entirely dominant over the other when both individuals are me, which is why women see gay relationships as an escape of sorts.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I think the issue is more that they percieve straight men as scary because the man is the "dominant" one in the heterosexual relationship, while the woman is supposed to be "submissive". There's a societal expectation that the man is the one who makes the decisions, and the woman is the one who agrees with him, which of course many young women would be uncomfortable men. Obviously gay relationships can have power imbalances as well, but there's less of a notion that one half of the relationship is supposed to be entirely dominant over the other when both individuals are me, which is why women see gay relationships as an escape of sorts.

I would accept this explanation a lot more readily if we were talking about rednecks or orthodox religious whackjobs. Most of those manlets in social media seem to come from far more progressive families and environments than that, and in those (as well as in media for the longest time) the tendency is to show relationships either on equal footing, or with the woman being the more dominant figure. Fuck, one of the most common gags in sitcoms is the dad who thinks he has everything in hand, but ends up getting rescued by his wife when he inevitably gets everything wrong.

I have a different theory: a lot of these Aidens present as being very assertive and aggressively independent but are in fact very submissive. And I mean it in the pure sexual sense, without any moral judgment: they simply enjoy the thought of relinquishing control in a relationship or during sex. But they're very young. They've had the idea that women must be strong and independent and can't be submissive to men hammered into their heads since preschool. Between their instincts and preferences and their upbringing and societal expectations, you get enough mixed messages that they may reach the conclusion that they must be a man instead.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Oh no. Now you've done it.

Spoiler: You've activated my sperg card

Here at Wash and Smash we specialize in cleaning and destruction. This needs the former and deserves the latter.
Allow me to call out my horrors:

• The ",,," is an indicator of a less-than-excellent education or hotdog-fingers incapable of using a cellphone keyboard
• A commentor in the post acknowledges this person as a Juggalo. I admit I don't have the knowledge necessary to see the clue in this scene.
• "Katie" lives with "her" dad and doesn't know the difference between "dyed" and "died". It's possible the photo on the cabinet is the OP.
• Post history shows evidence of a special interest in trains. My autism evidence grows.
• Messy home, unironed flag, hand-me-down cabinet with old dolls - Now we're getting into my area of expertise. This is not a wealthy family.
• Boxes of literal trash indicating mental illness.
• Plug-in butt-massager. The dad may be old.
• Do not step on that floor in bare feet

In short, this house smells terrible, is unclean in many ways, and may be harboring more than one type of disease.

A juggalo is a fan of the band Insane Clown Posse. It’s a subculture that exists entirely among trailer trash.

I’m not convinced that most of these Aidens want to pass. They want to be attractive and butchy and edgy so they can get a hot bisexual girlfriend. In liberal social circles this works. The ones on T with scratchy voices and shitty facial hair, though, they aren’t getting dates.

 

[Ceci]

I would accept this explanation a lot more readily if we were talking about rednecks or orthodox religious whackjobs. Most of those manlets in social media seem to come from far more progressive families and environments than that, and in those (as well as in media for the longest time) the tendency is to show relationships either on equal footing, or with the woman being the more dominant figure. Fuck, one of the most common gags in sitcoms is the dad who thinks he has everything in hand, but ends up getting rescued by his wife when he inevitably gets everything wrong.

The progressive ideal of relationships is far from a reflection of reality. Just because men are in a liberal environment doesn't mean they're treating women respectfully and on equal footing, """woke""" guys mistreating and sexually harassing women is practically a meme at this point from how prevalent it is. You can see men still being dominant over women in "progressive" relationships in this very thread, when husbands troon out and force their wives to take care of kids and do chores, while they're busy playing dress-up. The man tells his wife what to do while he has his fun.

 

[Old Fart]

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When the Rohypnol wears off.

 

[Corn Flakes]

The progressive ideal of relationships is far from a reflection of reality. Just because men are in a liberal environment doesn't mean they're treating women respectfully and on equal footing, """woke""" guys mistreating and sexually harassing women is practically a meme at this point from how prevalent it is. You can see men still being dominant over women in "progressive" relationships in this very thread, when husbands troon out and force their wives to take care of kids and do chores, while they're busy playing dress-up. The man tells his wife what to do while he has his fun.

That's a fair point, but how many of those Aidens do you think have been in relationships, liberal or otherwise, in order to know these things? Considering how many have had sexual traumas in childhood, if I were to hazard a guess I'd say most of them are more familiar with their relatives' dicks than a boyfriend's.

Edit:
Both points still stand. I was talking about the ideal itself, you were talking about the practical reality. The intersection of those two things is where the cognitive dissonance that results in ROGD is.

 

[JCnGGd32]

I think a lot of FTM fear of heterosexual relationships are due to pornography. Even 10-15 years ago when I was in equivalent of middle school, pornography on mobile phones was unavoidable. At age 11 I remember being showed hardcore porn (unannounced) on some guy's phone. When we got given the contraception talk at age 13, about 40% of the class were already on the pill or the rod because they were having sex - and this school was the nicer one in town.

It's even worse these days with every phone having internet, social media, snapchat, etc. VERY young kids are exposed to extreme pornography. Surveys show that teenagers feel pressured into hardcore (e.g. fisting, anal, etc) sex acts that weren't common two decades ago. I don't want to sound like some prude that thinks kids shouldn't even know what sex is, but there's a difference between sneaking a look at some boobie pics in a magazine in 1978 and watching full on bondage BDSM choking animal play during class.

I can definitely see young teenage girls seeing what is expected of women in hardcore pornography (degradation and humiliation) and NOT want that. If they've never had a relationship, don't have male friends, and don't know what else to expect, it makes sense they would want to identify out of it.

 

[AnOminous]

I can definitely see young teenage girls seeing what is expected of women in hardcore pornography (degradation and humiliation) and NOT want that. If they've never had a relationship, don't have male friends, and don't know what else to expect, it makes sense they would want to identify out of it.

And unfortunately by so doing they opt into a lifestyle more abusive and degenerate than normalcy, where just being accepted requires them to accept awful shit-tier fetishes as normal that would make a Roman emperor blush.

 

[Safir]

I would accept this explanation a lot more readily if we were talking about rednecks or orthodox religious whackjobs. Most of those manlets in social media seem to come from far more progressive families and environments than that, and in those (as well as in media for the longest time) the tendency is to show relationships either on equal footing, or with the woman being the more dominant figure. Fuck, one of the most common gags in sitcoms is the dad who thinks he has everything in hand, but ends up getting rescued by his wife when he inevitably gets everything wrong.

You are looking at existing normal relationships, like yours, your parents', your well-adjusted friends'. These are teenagers who are not in a relationship --

That's a fair point, but how many of those Aidens do you think have been in relationships, liberal or otherwise, in order to know these things?

-- and they are rightfully scared of a pump and dump plus some revenge porn, because men fuck and women get fucked. Teenage relationships are inherently fucked up, because they're dumb and they occur in a captive environment, usually the only RL environment they have - worse than a workplace. An ex-virgin girl shamed as a slut for putting out for her one true love might as well commit sudoku. To change schools, she needs to tell her parents, and even if she does, everything's on the interwebs anyway.

But now that she's a softboi, she's no longer a passive cumdumpster and a conquest worth some man points - she's a seducer who turned a straight man "gay" and voided his man card. The environment also works in her favor: an adult might think softbois an easy lay, but a teenager had to publicly call himself a faggot for weeks just to touch a boob.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I’m still not convinced most of these girls are True and Honest heterosexuals. Bi at best. Straight teenage girls want male attention and you don’t do that by dressing like a boy. Don’t you remember in middle school when it became clear which girls were straight and which weren’t by who one day went out and got makeup and a push up bra and tight jeans?

 

[GenitalFetishist]

I’m still not convinced most of these girls are True and Honest heterosexuals. Bi at best. Straight teenage girls want male attention and you don’t do that by dressing like a boy. Don’t you remember in middle school when it became clear which girls were straight and which weren’t by who one day went out and got makeup and a push up bra and tight jeans?

You're underestimating the neuroticism of teenage girls. The only TIF I've ever been friends with was definitely straight but was also tremendously plain. Most of the male attention she received was negative, and the positive attention she got was from creepers who targeted her precisely because they could tell her self-esteem was in the toilet. When you're a dumpy 16-year-old, any attempt to be sexy is likely to result in ridicule rather than praise.

When you "fail" as a girl, being a guy instead has its appeal.

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

Tbh I think all of you are partially correct in trying to pin down the chain of unfortunate events/experiences/psychology behind what drives young women to transition. In my experience, FTMs seem to be steadily overrepresented in many fandom communities, and while many are homosexual/bisexual, a majority have an intense fixation on gay male relationships (realistic or fictional). However, they tend to be more well-adjusted in my IRL experiences.

I subscribe to the idea that it's a combination of their generation being exposed to degrading porn WAYYY too early, because it absolutely depicts sex in a way that is quite removed from anything women are typically brought up to anticipate in romantic relationships, particularly straight ones. I would go as far to say it completely distorts what is a normal aspect of human behavior and twists it into something solely about power rather than mutual pleasure and enjoyment.

Not to mention teenagers are fucking stupid and puberty is extremely uncomfortable, and hearing your male peers discuss humiliating sex acts that they viewed casually in a classroom is absolutely jarring/frightening and can lead to a crippled understanding of what sex even is.

Coupled with a budding sexuality (that @Corn Flakes was describing) that manifests unhealthily due to all of the negative associations these women/girls will come to associate with sex in general, it creates an understandable incentive to want to escape a destiny they may feel little control/agency over.

In a lot of ways these girls probably never had a healthy way of processing their own sexualities and sought refuge in fictional relationships between societal "equals" that they could manipulate and characterize all on their own (BL, yaoi, shipping & that aspect of weeb culture in general).

EDIT: This alone however does not explain the prevalent idea that homosexuality suddenly doesn't exist because they believe they are literal men. I have a lot of empathy for FTMs, not because I see them as perpetual victims who lack agency, but because I see them as literal women whose psychology and development are given little consideration, especially given the overlap I've noticed with eating disorders/body dysmorphia & dysphoric women. However, the ones who believe they become gay men have #mento-illness.

 

[Banditotron]

I’m still not convinced most of these girls are True and Honest heterosexuals. Bi at best. Straight teenage girls want male attention and you don’t do that by dressing like a boy. Don’t you remember in middle school when it became clear which girls were straight and which weren’t by who one day went out and got makeup and a push up bra and tight jeans?

Eh, I think that FtMs are a more even spread of straights, bis, and lesbos. All 3 are either trying to avoid sexual attention from men (either because they're not into men or because they got diddled as a kid) or are delusional and think that gay men are into women on T. Also maybe a little bit of "i can't be a woman if im into women" self hating from the lesbo front.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I’m just exhausted by their complete lack of self awareness.

 

[Yangon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns/comments/hrzgs5/im_glad_im_confident_in_my_gender_now_but_now/

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So, not wanting to date someone if you don't feel connection with them is now a special identity? I'm starting to think these memes are made by lizardmen who have no idea how humans work.

Anyway social media sideshows: r/TransphobiaProject tackling the important issues:

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Reminded me that recently I got one of those ads for shady dating services, and it said "Who are you looking for?", and the options were Men, Women and Trans. We did it Reddit, we smashed the gender binary!

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[Corn Flakes]

I’m just exhausted by their complete lack of self awareness.

Isn't that just what happens when you go on the internet? You see enough stupid people that you just feel tired of it after long enough?

Tbh I think all of you are partially correct in trying to pin down the chain of unfortunate events/experiences/psychology behind what drives young women to transition. In my experience, FTMs seem to be steadily overrepresented in many fandom communities, and while many are homosexual/bisexual, a majority have an intense fixation on gay male relationships (realistic or fictional). However, they tend to be more well-adjusted in my IRL experiences.

I subscribe to the idea that it's a combination of their generation being exposed to degrading porn WAYYY too early, because it absolutely depicts sex in a way that is quite removed from anything women are typically brought up to anticipate in romantic relationships, particularly straight ones. I would go as far to say it completely distorts what is a normal aspect of human behavior and twists it into something solely about power rather than mutual pleasure and enjoyment.

Not to mention teenagers are fucking stupid and puberty is extremely uncomfortable, and hearing your male peers discuss humiliating sex acts that they viewed casually in a classroom is absolutely jarring/frightening and can lead to a crippled understanding of what sex even is.

Coupled with a budding sexuality (that @Corn Flakes was describing) that manifests unhealthily due to all of the negative associations these women/girls will come to associate with sex in general, it creates an understandable incentive to want to escape a destiny they may feel little control/agency over.

In a lot of ways these girls probably never had a healthy way of processing their own sexualities and sought refuge in fictional relationships between societal "equals" that they could manipulate and characterize all on their own (BL, yaoi, shipping & that aspect of weeb culture in general).

EDIT: This alone however does not explain the prevalent idea that homosexuality suddenly doesn't exist because they believe they are literal men. I have a lot of empathy for FTMs, not because I see them as perpetual victims who lack agency, but because I see them as literal women whose psychology and development are given little consideration, especially given the overlap I've noticed with eating disorders/body dysmorphia & dysphoric women. However, the ones who believe they become gay men have #mento-illness.

So, from what I'm gathering here, it seems that FTMs are very often people who underwent a very awkward puberty, had their sexual education provided by Pornhub and their notions of romance and relationships forged by unhealthy fiction, were bullied at school, developed a very limited grasp of real world social dynamics, and are now LARPing being something else as a coping mechanism.

Hmmm...

I wonder where I've seen that before...

 

[El Sátiro Sordo]

Eh, I think that FtMs are a more even spread of straights, bis, and lesbos. All 3 are either trying to avoid sexual attention from men (either because they're not into men or because they got diddled as a kid) or are delusional and think that gay men are into women on T. Also maybe a little bit of "i can't be a woman if im into women" self hating from the lesbo front.

We shouldn't ignore that most women already have male attention, and that this attention is often unwanted.

 

[JY's Tampon]

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

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Why are these actual chads trooning out?

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

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Ah it's Chad troon! I missed him.