Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

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I support the ethical treatment of animals. It's true that some forms of slaughtering animals for meat are quite brutal and inhumane and that's terrible.
With that said, I still like my meat. Always have, always will. I don't believe in making animals suffer needlessly. But having an omnivorous diet is what we were built for.
And on top of that, the whole Vegan movement feels like a waste of time for me because every last person on the planet is not going to suddenly decide they're done eating meat. It's not gonna happen. Ever. People are gonna continue eating meat until the end of time. I know there are plenty of decent, rational vegans out there. But it still doesn't change things. At least for me.

I've worked at a chicken processing plant. The chickens are strung up by their feet on a linked conveyor belt on the "kill line" and their necks stretched out with rubber links on the bottom of the belt. After twenty are strung up, a button is pushed & they cycle through the beheading saw. It takes all of five seconds.

The only legal methods for slaughtering cows & pigs in the USA are the air-hammer (a'la No Country for Old Men) which almost instantaneously bounces a quarter-sized chunk of skull off the bottom of the animal's brainpan, and an electric cimitar knife to the throat- which is rapidly being phased out. Even with the two hogs & one steer I helped butcher, the method of dispatchment was a 12-gauge to the base of the skull.

People that tell you livestock is "tortured to death" simply don't know what they're talking about. Any ethical processor makes it as quick as possible.
 
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Ah yes, the SJW-esque vegans that equate eating meat, a commodity and essential source of nutrients for humans, to murdering somebody or contributing to a genocide on the level of the Holocaust (which sounds insulting considering they're comparing the victims to farm animals).

Normally, I don't go out of my way to annoy anybody, but I would gladly eat a nice juicy burger or medium rare steak (a bloody one at that) right in front of these militant vegans, just to see the look on their face.

I seriously can't think of living a life without eating meat. I eat so much of it that you may as well call me a carnivore.
 
Ah yes, the SJW-esque vegans that equate eating meat, a commodity and essential source of nutrients for humans, to murdering somebody or contributing to a genocide on the level of the Holocaust (which sounds insulting considering they're comparing the victims to farm animals).

Normally, I don't go out of my way to annoy anybody, but I would gladly eat a nice juicy burger or medium rare steak (a bloody one at that) right in front of these militant vegans, just to see the look on their face.

I seriously can't think of living a life without eating meat. I eat so much of it that you may as well call me a carnivore.


True story. Happened about a year ago.

At work, I was on lunch, and enjoying a roast beef 'sammich from our deli out on the bench by the bus stop outside work. The "Tuscaloosa Trolley" pulled up & dumped out it's passengers. A young hippy-esque lady sat down on the bench besides me.

Me: *nom nom nom*
Her: "You know, meat is murder, right?'
Me (finishes chewing, swallows): "You don't watch a lot of nature shows, do ya?"
Her: "Uh..No. Why?"
Me: "You're a small herbivore messing with a large carnivore while he's eating. This rarely turns out well for the herbivore."
Her: I..I..Ah..(walks away quickly)
 
The stupid thing is that there are already plenty of good arguments for being vegetarian, or at least dramatically reducing your consumption of meat. Among those: health and longevity, reduction of pollution (greenhouse gas emissions, agricultural runoff, overuse of pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers), reduction of the overuse of antibiotics contributing to antibiotic resistant bacteria, reduction of water usage, reduction of deforestation, reduction of overexploitation, the ability to sustainably support the world's population, etc. These don't involve accusing people of murder or making really dubious and unfounded claims. Pragmatically speaking, there would be a much larger benefit to taking a milder stance and convincing people to reduce their meat consumption by 50-75% or whatever. I don't know why anyone would think this kind of fanaticism does anything good for the world. It's certainly not going to win anyone over.
 
The stupid thing is that there are already plenty of good arguments for being vegetarian, or at least dramatically reducing your consumption of meat. Among those: health and longevity, reduction of pollution (greenhouse gas emissions, agricultural runoff, overuse of pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers), reduction of the overuse of antibiotics contributing to antibiotic resistant bacteria, reduction of water usage, reduction of deforestation, reduction of overexploitation, the ability to sustainably support the world's population, etc. These don't involve accusing people of murder or making really dubious and unfounded claims. Pragmatically speaking, there would be a much larger benefit to taking a milder stance and convincing people to reduce their meat consumption by 50-75% or whatever. I don't know why anyone would think this kind of fanaticism does anything good for the world. It's certainly not going to win anyone over.

Yeah, but on the opposite side, there's the argument that bacon is really tasty. I mean, it really fucking tastes good. God I love it.
 
Also, things like this?
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Are fucking stupid. I'll say it again: Stop overcompensating.
To be fair, that image, in context, was great.
 
The stupid thing is that there are already plenty of good arguments for being vegetarian, or at least dramatically reducing your consumption of meat. Among those: health and longevity, reduction of pollution (greenhouse gas emissions, agricultural runoff, overuse of pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers), reduction of the overuse of antibiotics contributing to antibiotic resistant bacteria, reduction of water usage, reduction of deforestation, reduction of overexploitation, the ability to sustainably support the world's population, etc. These don't involve accusing people of murder or making really dubious and unfounded claims. Pragmatically speaking, there would be a much larger benefit to taking a milder stance and convincing people to reduce their meat consumption by 50-75% or whatever. I don't know why anyone would think this kind of fanaticism does anything good for the world. It's certainly not going to win anyone over.

I was thinking of posting something similar. People could make a very good argument by pointing out that any reduction in meat consumption is a gain for the environment (not to mention health) but then it would be harder to act superior about it since whatever someone would choose to do (no meat, once a week, twice a week etc) would be an arbitrary choice not resulting into a morally higher position. So I rarely see that reasoning and instead there are quite a few people going for the "meat is murder" crap that is both hypocritical and incorrect.

I don't care what anyone eats as long as they don't try to control what I eat. I won't bother a vegan/vegeterian about their eating habits unless they bother me first about mine but I see any vegan/vegeterian claiming moral superiority in any way based on what they eat as a douchebag.
 
Ever notice that vegans only throw blood on people wearing mink coats, instead of bikers in full riding leathers?

Ook ook ook, ook ook. Ook ook.


More on topic though but around here the combination of militant vegan and fundamentalist Christian is not too uncommon.
I have heard someone actually argue that the reason anyone, human or animal, would consume meat is due to the original sin
 
Dogs can survive on a vegan diet, a popular evolutionary theory states that dogs first evolved this ability and then came to live nearby human settlements rather than being wolves that were forcibly domesticated.
Please cite your source. Very few (no?) "primitive" human settlements were strictly vegan, and being able to survive on a vegan diet will not give wolves/dogs-to-be a survival advantage.
 
Does anyone know why Vegans might require vasectomies?


Because I STILL DON'T KNOW.
 
That is nuts.
Australia is the one place on earth where meeting the local fauna requires fucking firepower. Everything is 100x more poisonous than it needs to be. Even the fucking platypus is poisonous! Kangaroos want to kick your ass, and Koalas want to fuck your juicy eye-sockets. And to even meet these things in mano-a-mano combat, you have to fight them in THEIR habitat: The OUTBACK! Where it is 120 degrees....in the shade!
If these vegans want to show how committed they are to being all touchy feely with some wildlife, I encourage them to go into The Bush and cuddle with a Sydney Funnel Web Spider.

That fucking thing is proof that Australia is as close to IRL Etrian Odyssey as it gets, I swear to Christ.
 
Please cite your source. Very few (no?) "primitive" human settlements were strictly vegan, and being able to survive on a vegan diet will not give wolves/dogs-to-be a survival advantage.

Not a vegan diet. My point with the post was not that it would be advisable to feed dogs a completely plant based diet, just that they are able to survive on it for extended periods of time if neccecary even if it is deterimental to their health.

On topic: i browsed through the vegan taggs on tumblr and i would say that about 95% of the posts are entierly reasonable and mostly hold recepies that i would like to try. When you do find a nutjob however you can be reasonably sure that they will be involved with some other tumblr lolcowdom
 
Like, if someone tells you that they're vegetarian/vegan and your first impulse to say something like "MMMM I LOVE BACON AND STEAK AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T IS A WHINY PUSSY" or something like that, you really need to stop overcompensating.

I know vegans have gotten a bad rap, but I just think it's incredibly annoying how some people's knee jerk reaction to hearing that someone doesn't eat meat is to go on about how delicious steak/bacon/whatever is or to say something else that's douchey.

I agree with this. Ultimately, what we eat doesn't really affect anybody except ourselves, so it's nobody else's business. If somebody can't reconcile loving animals with eating them, that's perfectly valid. Even moreso if they just don't like the experience of eating meat. You could argue that the "MEAT IS TEH AWESOMEZ" lobby only exists in reaction to the evangelist vegan/vegetarian lobby, but "they started it" stops being a good argument once one's age gets into double digits.
 
>tfw you realize koalas will never gouge out your eyeballs and fuck your eyesockets into submission
No, not submission. They won't care if you submit or not. They like it when you don't want it.

Also, check THIS guy out:
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He thought the Koalas were sooooooo adorably soft and cuddly. The Koala disagreed.
 
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