Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

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Ever notice that vegans only throw blood on people wearing mink coats, instead of bikers in full riding leathers? Even though more cows go to that big ranch in the sky in a day than the combined yearly total from every mink ranch in the nation?

Why is that?

(Spoiler: No one likes blunt cranial trauma.)
 
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Wizzrobe said:
Aren't there certain health problems people who strictly eat veggies and nothing else run into if they aren't careful?
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Other than vitamin B-12 deficiency, it's possible to have a balanced diet and be vegan. That isn't to say that vegans actually all do this. There are vegans with absolutely atrocious diets.

The B-12 thing is because there is basically no good vegan source for this vitamin. Apparently, you store it up and so new vegans can survive off the built up stores of it meat eaters get if they don't have other problems like excessive drinking that deplete B vitamins. So unless you make an exception for this and take some kind of supplement, you're going to end up deficient in this nutrient. It doesn't kill you, but it causes fatigue, headaches, and a number of ill effects.

Other than that, though, pretty much anything else is available from some non-animal source.

What you might have trouble doing is bulking up if you're into bodybuilding, though, because most of the dense protein sources are animal, or like nuts, contain a lot of fat. And again, if you make an exception for things like eggs, egg white protein will probably do you fine.

Not an expert in the subject, but have read a lot of sperging on both sides and trolled arguments by posing as either a fanatical vegan or vegan-hater.
 
Vegans are obviously against eating not only meat but also eggs, milk, and other animal byproducts. I'm under the impression things like milk and eggs are due to how the animals are treated. So does anyone know how they feel about people eating unfertilized eggs from their own properly treated pet chickens?

I'd love to laugh at some screenshots of extremist tumblr vegans try to make an excuse for how that is evil even though the birds will ignore the egg after it doesn't hatch for long enough and even kick it out of the nest.
 
Chubby_Penguin said:
I'd love to laugh at some screenshots of extremist tumblr vegans try to make an excuse for how that is evil even though the birds will ignore the egg after it doesn't hatch for long enough and even kick it out of the nest.
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i'm sure the excuse is "laying eggs kills the chicken"
just like how they think
"sheering wool off a sheep kills it"
and
"milking a cow kills it"
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"lol black people? who cares" - white rich vegan
 
From what I've seen, they're very against consuming any animal by-products, even if it doesn't harm the animal in any way. I remember seeing a Tumblr post where a vegan was complaining about how bees are kept for their honey, until a beekeeper replied and smacked their argument down by explaining how well bees are usually treated. I don't think they care so long as they feel morally right.
 
fishercat said:
From what I've seen, they're very against consuming any animal by-products, even if it doesn't harm the animal in any way. I remember seeing a Tumblr post where a vegan was complaining about how bees are kept for their honey, until a beekeeper replied and smacked their argument down by explaining how well bees are usually treated. I don't think they care so long as they feel morally right.
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i'm now picturing bees in a row, chained to each other, with iron collars and ankle locks on all their legs :c
 
fishercat said:
From what I've seen, they're very against consuming any animal by-products, even if it doesn't harm the animal in any way. I remember seeing a Tumblr post where a vegan was complaining about how bees are kept for their honey, until a beekeeper replied and smacked their argument down by explaining how well bees are usually treated. I don't think they care so long as they feel morally right.
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To be fair, a lot of vegans are against the way animals are treated, not because harvesting honey/milk/eggs/etc is actually harmful to the animal. This is because a lot of animals (such as hens and cows) are kept in very tight spaces (sometimes even cages, in the case of hens) and basically are allowed to do nothing but give eggs/milk/etc.

Again, this is an issue that can be resolved by reforming the livestock industry and ensuring that animals are treated humanely. If livestock is treated humanely, there's absolutely no issue with taking milk/eggs/etc because it doesn't actually hurt the animal. But some vegans are such extremists that they honestly don't seem to understand this solution; instead of "let's improve the lives of these animals," it's "let's let all of the animals go free and live without any animal by-products whatsoever."

That's why nobody takes them seriously. While animal welfare activists are trying to make sure that livestock is treated humanely, vegans are trying to make everyone on the planet become vegan.
 
You know why I became vegetarian for 1.5 years? I actually met some vegans who were reasonable and friendly people who educated me the horrors of factory farming without calling me a horrible person or something. I believe in animal welfare and environmental stewardship, so I got so motivated to fulfill those ideals that I didn't eat meat for 1.5 years.

Granted, I couldn't stay vegetarian forever because of health problems. But I still try to eat certified organic animal products and even plant products when I can as a compromise. People will think all vegetarians/vegans are crazy fundamentalists if they're condescending and unpleasant to the people they're trying to educate and convert. But as the saying goes, you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar.
 
"But as the saying goes, you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar."

Apparently you can attract even more with bullshit.

Serious question:
Do Vegans engage in oral sex? Vaginal secretions and semen are animal products after all.

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Mourning Dove said:
I've also wondered a similar question about if vegans consume human breastmilk, or accept blood transfusions. People often forget that humans ARE animals, after all...
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The Knife's Husbando said:
Hypocrisy in my Vegan dogma? It's more likely than you think.
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At the risk of defending shitheads, those things are freely given. Farm animals cannot consent.

The British have a memorial dedicated to "Animals in War" which bears the inscription "They had no choice".
 
Since we're on the subject of vegans, here's a link I'd like to share:

http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html

You'd be surprised how many vegan parents accidentally kill off their offspring by putting them on a vegan diet. Apparently breastfeeding is off the list because... bullshit reasoning logic or whatever. As a parent, my first instinct is to see that my kid is happy and healthy. If they want to pursue that lifestyle when their older, that's fine. But a baby? A human being that doesn't have the ability to look after itself? That's fucked up.
 
Morbid Boredom said:
At the risk of defending shitheads, those things are freely given. Farm animals cannot consent.

The British have a memorial dedicated to "Animals in War" which bears the inscription "They had no choice".
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Neither can babies, pets, or a person under anesthesia in the ICU. Your point?
 
The Knife's Husbando said:
Neither can babies, or a person under anesthesia in the ICU. Your point?
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Just pointing out that breastfeeding mothers and blood donors are not being "exploited" from a vegan's perspective. If a vegan thinks people under anesthesia don't deserve blood transfusions, they can rot.
 
I love how the land of "check your privilege" fails to see the irony of having the privilege to choose to abstain from certain foods.
 
I wonder how vegans feel about the fact that agriculture kills billions upon billions of insects and other small wildlife :^)

I try to avoid eating meat regularly (I don't like the meat industry) but there's no point dancing around the fact that your survival is contingent on the deaths of untold other living beings even under the best circumstances.
 
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