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polyester said:
Maybe there first where they encountered meaningful resistance.
But lost? In what way did they loose anything?
They were fully successful in controlling the media narrative, made money off it, got invited to the UN, and all their institutions which were under attack (like online news sites, game studios, conferences) came out intact and keep injecting SocJus into popular culture harder than ever.
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The fact they got all those spoils but still haven't made a dent in "problematic" games proves they lost. If anything, those institutions who aligned with the lefty warriors against GG went down too, either completely (Game Journalists and corporate game websites are dead in 2020) or took a hit by association (The UN, mainstream media whenever it talks games and entertainment, the big game publishing houses that did go woke and put troons in a WWII shooter and called it "post-realism realism, they WOULD'VE won the war for us if they'd been allowed to, so, we're going to allow it to play out the "right" was this time)

Every one of THOSE groups took a massive hit to credibility and relevance, not just from GG, but, the fact that they continued to align on the wrong side of every fight from there on out to try and prove that losing GG was a fluke...... only to prove again and again they have no ability for all their supposed influence and very real piles of cash, to make a fundamentally broken and bonkers social message popular and accepted by average people. EA suffered a massive economic shortfall on Wokefield5 SJWWII, and are a joke when it comes to the blatant way they pull the "Break Glass and pull marked NEW GAY CHARACTER handle in Emergency" move when sales start to slip. As the goodwill of gamers has been squandered across the board with virtue signaling and aggressive microtransations infesting broken buggy games, the only company to NOT be looked down upon is: CD Projekt Red, who have continually told the SJWs "fuck off" when they find yet another problematic thing in Cyberpunk that needs rectified NOW or.......... else...... news sites nobody reads will call them transphobic turbo-Nazis.

The news aligned completely against GG, and lost too, the public trust of news has never been lower. Yes, the anti-GG people "won" in being able to get people to take up their message and call for the death of Gamers, but, those institutions who did only wrecked THEIR standing along side the SJWS.

The GG memes, created for free by regular people, went farther into the public consciousness and dealt more damage to the moral puritans than the best professional shilling a billion Sorosbux could buy from the UN and the sum total of the country's most credentialed University Gender Studies departments... think about that, and say GG didn't win.....

GG was indeed their first loss, and every loss since has been them trying to drown it out with victories on other fronts, which never came. It was the Nazis at Stalingrad, or the IJN at Midway, the point they were decisively defeated and put on the run. They could win a tactical battle here or there, but the strategic picture from that point on was never really in doubt. Hitler outlived the 6th Army, and the Yamato didn't sink until years later, but, in both cases, the ultimate death of each was assured at that point.

The fact there are still NEOGAF's out there and that Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkesian can still find simps to give them money doesn't mean they're winning or gonna win, the ultimate fate of both is set. They'll end their days on deserted dried-out forums, wringing just enough cash and influence out of the public to keep the lights on, while yammering that it wasn't THEY who were wrong, the common people failed them, failed their bold ideas, and with YORU help the 4th Reich will win it all and THEN some! Please donate today..... Hey, did I ever tell you about the time I stood up to Gamer Gate? Ah, those were the days...... see........ it went like this............
 
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Shaka Brah said:
We were only successful in Japan because a weeaboo general intervened and got the reconstruction authority to fuck off and not implement the same kind of pozzed curriculum that the Germans would be forced to undergo.

We basically left them alone culturally and governmentally, aside from writing them a simple constitution.
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Partly.
The occupation of Japan was this case of everything going right.

The Germans were punished by das juden because you don't step to the reptillian menace and get away with it with no consequences were determined to be complicit in Nazi war crimes. The Japanese were determined, basically to have been unable to think for themselves, and were told their Emperor wanted them to behave like complete fucktards. The Occupation Authority determined that the Emperor didn't want his people to behave like complete fucktards, but was coopted and held hostage by the military aparatus into allowing the impression he approved of their actions.
Please note I said determined, I am just paraphrasing factual outcome not saying if that was correct or incorrect determination.
(As in "A jury found OJ Simpson not guilty")

Add in other factors like Japan surrendering before the home islands were invaded, concern of communist aggitators taking over,

The other factor was MacArthur, who ran things his way - period. Largely free of interest politics, he was able to implement his authoritarian reforms, in an authoritarian manner, and could leverage a governmental apparatus already primed for such a thing, and that had already managed a huge societal transformation less than 100 years before.

MacArthur also largely broke up the Family Run Industrial concerns (at least temporarily), which was the greatest boon to post-Restoration Japan's economy.
 
Gehenna said:
I don't think they are as patient as you say... if they truly were patient, why the hurried attacks on trump before the powder was ready? Why the massive overuse of all their big cannons like #MeToo? Why do they react so suddenly and poorly to any event, rather than biding their time and waiting for the best moment?

They have shown to be, if anything, immensely IMpatient. I'd propose you have mistaken taking a long time for patience to win. These may sound like the same thing, but there is a core difference between them. They were consistently winning before. One small win after another, never losing, always gaining. They were content, not patient.
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I was suggesting Democrats would normally walk away to lick their wounds and fix their messaging to get back into power. That they would wait til the next election cycle to continue.

Now either due to old age or simply because Trump could unravel everything, Democrats dropped all pretense of principles for naked power grabs. They changed strategies either out of hubris or fear.

2016 may have been the projected "end date" for their plans so they could begin "phase 2" but now everything is off the rails.
 
Garm said:
2016 may have been the projected "end date" for their plans so they could begin "phase 2" but now everything is off the rails.
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And let's hope they will never have the chance to go with "phase 2".

Btw, Styx and some Youtubers vlogged about the latest CNN poll.
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With how little effort Biden is putting into the election, I keep forgetting there is an election going on.
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Luke Robinson
But never forget: Democrats cheat. A week after Election Night the New York Times will report: "Thousands of deceased Coronavirus Victims voted from beyond the grave in an effort to avenge their own deaths. In what Statisticians and Biologists both are describing as 'Holy Buttfuck!,' every last dead person voted Democrat."
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Jeremy Foster
I could see CNN advocating for all the COVID deaths to be counted as votes against Trump
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Adam The Ticket Seller said:
Context was that someone pinged him asking if he was still involved in a certain TF2 project.
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When I looked up "F-16", 1st news article was this, it was a tribute to healthcare and 1st line workers in Wisconsin, zero additional taxpayer dollars involved, and was apparently built into a current mission of the Wisconsin Air National Guard. And wasn't the whole "inject disinfectant" bullshit from a few weeks ago just UV light therapy?
And a little powerlevel about him: He refuses to get a job because he might make more money if he was on Social Security rather than getting a job, which he could easily get a work at home job with his abilities, and he lives with his parents in his mid-late 20s, mad that he had to give some of his disability money to his parents when he got it, because he's apparently making them pay less because he's considered a dependent to his parents.
EDIT: Apparently in the same article it mentions how the Thunderbirds were flying across the country, the F-16 from what I saw was only in Wisconsin, and to be honest it was rather dumb to fund fighter aircrafts in this time, but how the discussion devolved from "hey are you still working on this project?" to "my government is absoute shit because MSM is overreacting and outright lying about Plod Turd Man's actions in order to get Biden to become POTUS, #VoteBlueNoMatterWho" out of the middle of nowhere is postworthy.
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School of Fish said:
It's just mind boggling to see the old geezers in the U.S think that we can change a culture of backwards savages in the sand and waste countless billions and with not that much favorable results. If we finally let the Middle East alone and let them continue to believe that the Earth is flat and kill each other then we would have avoided a lot of problems by now.
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Okay TBF funding the various umbrella groups informally known as the "Contras" was always about beating the Communists out of our backyard and not teaching Nicaraguan farmers, drug runners and Miskito tribesmen to be Civilized Developed First-Worlders(TM).
The PR campaign by the Reagan Admin to paint said hicks and drug runners as "just like Washington & Adams" was just their way of trying to counter Soviet 5th Column/Frankfurt shit trying to paint the "Contras" as ebul capitalist murder-cenaries commiting a genocide against the oppressed dindu nuffin FSLN government and their Cuban and Soviet muscle advisors.

Now you can argue that the US shouldn't be doing gayops period, which is fair; or that there are other ways of getting the Soviets out of Latin America; but giving "Contra" rebels money to kill commies with a specific endgame no further than "make the cost of propping up commie dictatorships too costly for the Soviets" isn't anywhere near the same level of foreign intervention insanity as "make Afghan tribesmen feminists".

School of Fish said:
In this day and age, no one gives a single shit about it anymore. Not a single soul. Everyone with a functioning brain has moved on from it.

Well everyone except for the lefties that are still very bitter about it and refuse to let it go at this point.
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Until Trump tweets about and crushes the SJW movement once and for all, Jim.
 
Whatever discord you are pulling that from, they are going out of their way to write paragraphs to say Trump was in fact correct that those potential treatments had potential but still do their very best to mock him for it. I doubt any of them could explain that stuff any better without prior knowledge as they are in fact most likely not medical doctors. Trump knows business and people, not science and medicine and the simplest and most likely thing is that a team of doctors and scientists tell him something with lots of science words, so he tries to distill the idea down to normal people levels of speech sometimes unsuccessfully. Its painful to try to explain that to people.

My favorite case in point of framing recently was the story about the protestors "storming" the capital building in some states. Where it is completely legal to have firearms in public and in the building and they got their temperature checked in an orderly fasion before entering but nooooo call it loaded words like storming to scare the lefties who read this shit and whip up the checkmarks into a frenzy. Especially having to explain American culture and laws to a European gets old because they believe fucking everything in the major news outlet

nypost.com

Armed demonstrators storm Michigan State House over stay-at-home order

Hundreds of angry demonstrators, some of them armed with rifles, stormed Michigan’s State House on Thursday to protest stay-at-home orders — terrifying lawmakers who wore bulletproof ve…
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Video of people getting temperature checked.
https://twitter.com/LeonHendrix/status/1255924662434967552

Claas Relotius who made up shit for years and got awards for it, I know its CNN but the fact even they talked about it shows the level of lying that he did.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Award-winning reporter at Der Spiegel admits he MADE UP stories

Claas Relotius, 33, was caught after a colleague raised suspicions while working with him on a story. The colleague tracked down sources he had quoted who said they had never met him.
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wopirish said:
Whatever discord you are pulling that from, they are going out of their way to write paragraphs to say Trump was in fact correct that those potential treatments had potential but still do their very best to mock him for it. I doubt any of them could explain that stuff any better without prior knowledge as they are in fact most likely not medical doctors. Trump knows business and people, not science and medicine and the simplest and most likely thing is that a team of doctors and scientists tell him something with lots of science words, so he tries to distill the idea down to normal people levels of speech sometimes unsuccessfully. Its painful to try to explain that to people.



www.dailymail.co.uk

Award-winning reporter at Der Spiegel admits he MADE UP stories

Claas Relotius, 33, was caught after a colleague raised suspicions while working with him on a story. The colleague tracked down sources he had quoted who said they had never met him.
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What I got from that post is that Trump is being extremely :optimistic: when he is spitballing ideas that have some, even if a little, scientific basis in them (Malaria pills that might have some effect in helping prevent the disease, but with some side effects, was manipulated into being lethal because someone had their drink spiked with fish tank cleaner, UV lights somehow turned into "OMG tRUMP IS TELLING US TO CHUG BLEACH!!!" because he said "inject disinfectants" in the same paragraph, even though UV light has been used to kill germs, and there are research companies that are trying to use UV light as a possible way to directly treat the virus.)

(Video was taken down from Youtube a few weeks ago because someone wrote a hit piece on them after Trump suggested UV light as a cure)

At this point, people are willing to do literally anything to epically PWN Plod Turd Man. I will say, though, that he is right about Trump being retarded with his wording of the UV light, although that does not exempt MSM and social media to be retarded and turn his words into "TIDE PODS ALL OVER AGAIN!!!".
 
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Guys, we've had it all wrong. Trump's just not accepted the last election results. We've been very wrong. I see the light now and I know that the last 3.5 years have taught us one lesson:
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See guys? Obama was just doing his job, man.
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Democracy does indeed die in darkness, Washington Post.
 
Qriist said:
Guys, we've had it all wrong. Trump's just not accepted the last election results. We've been very wrong. I see the light now and I know that the last 3.5 years have taught us one lesson:
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See guys? Obama was just doing his job, man.
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Democracy does indeed die in darkness, Washington Post.
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I'm getting a terrible case of Déjà vu from all these pre-election pieces, like I've inadvertently stepped into a time machine to 2016. Doesn't inspire much confidence in Biden's ability to win if they're pulling out the same playbook they used for Hillary knowing how that went.
 
JambledUpWords said:
Yet they’ll still blame unemployment on Trump entirely despite him having little control over what governors and mayors can do. With how things are in California, I expect a riot or two this summer after too many people lose their jobs and go through their savings. It’s like these people want Trump to have more power over state and local politics (which is a terrible precedent to start).
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They can blame Trump all they want but no one outside of California is going to give two shits that they are still shut down throughout the summer. "I'm going to vote Biden because of high unemployment out in California" said no one ever.

That's the beauty of the electoral college, no matter how much they hate Trump 55 electoral votes is all they get. So fuck 'em.

DanteAlighieri said:
If only Trump was the dictator they say he is. Things would be simpler.
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Benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government, change my mind.

Of course though there's that small problem of dictators rarely being benevolent...
 
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