Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

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HTTP Error 404 said:
Comic books are dead in the West. I was actually typing something up for the Pinko Pox thread but... Basically, the woke infested the industry and ran it into the ground. And it is absolutely, 100%, dead. They might not have called it as such yet, but it's over.

I keep going into too much detail here, but, basically once they got power they started destroying 50 year old franchises and characters just to spite the evil straight-white-male-comic-reader fans who liked them. Wolverine is currently having anal sex with Cyclops on the moon after setting up a Neo-Communist Ethnostate. No, not kidding. (A)

They were also performing hiring decisions just because they "pissed off the right kind of people," mostly hiring random transsexuals, random shitty black women who got worthless "Marxist Literature" degrees, and other woke diversity hire losers that didn't actually earn their positions. And once those types got in they couldn't be fired and skipped out on doing actual comic work because they were just in it to sell shit to Netflix.

Marvel/DC could do this pre-COVID because there was a disconnect between the creators and the readers, and thanks to Diamond and the publishers being owned by AT&T/Disney, they didn't actually have to actually sell comics. The problem is, this was slowly killing the comic book stores, but who cares, they don't actually have to sell comics.

However.... COVID took out Diamond and has shut down all the comic book stores, and neither are likely to reopen after COVID because both were limping along thanks to the woke tumor on the industry sucking it dry. And Disney/AT&T are both bleeding money, so they can't afford to run a charity anymore.


So can Vic just call up a comic book store and do a signing? He could last year, but this year... We'll see. I don't think there'll be any comic book stores left around for him to do so in Summer 2020 and beyond.

Ironically, and because God does love Vic and keeps an eye out for him, it's going to be stuff like Unlocked that likely replaces anime cons (which are very very dead) as the VA's main way to make money. Which Vic has already gotten a head start on.
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If comic books die here it won't be because of wokeshit. It'll be because of the decline comics have been in for the last 30-40 years finally coming home to roost.

Seriously I hate wokeshit too but you are giving it far too much credit here.
 
Uranus Pink said:
According to Animecons.com https://animecons.com/events/schedule.php?year=2020&loc=us next U.S. anime con will be in June 2020.
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A lot of cons are waiting for official statements from their respective city/state governments so they can invoke the force majeure clause in their contracts with the hotels, convention centers, and possibly certain guests. Some of them might happen, but I'd suspect most of them already know it ain't happening and are just waiting to make it official.
 
OneHandClapping said:
Hrm. Dated 4-27 but accepted 4-19.
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I think you're looking at the case number. The acceptance date is a few lines further down. Also, if that were a date, it would be 2-19.

I can see how you can misread it as a date, though, seeing as it's directly under the word "ACCEPTED".
 
DragoonSierra said:
You think Nick has some of this?
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I suspect Nick has more cards up his sleeve than he admits, and he has openly admitted having some extremely embarrassing dirt. But I'm more interested in... Vic.

Unless they were literally shutting Vic out for decades, he knows ALL KINDS of dirt on these people.
 
7proxy said:
Do lawyers use a special kind of word processor that does not have automatic page numbering or do they just do everything by hand because they're from the typewriter era?
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They clearly don't do everything by hand. It'd be hard to do footnotes that way, for instance. They probably just learned to do well the things that matter legally and glossed over less important stuff like this.

It is pretty funny, though. They put in a page number field but apparently didn't realize there's a page count field that's just as easy to put in and just wrote it by hand?

OneHandClapping said:
As @774 pointed out I'm blind and retarded. I saw "2-19" on the case number and somehow turned that into April 19th.
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Yeah, that trips me up, too, sometimes.
 
I can't imagine said:
A lot of cons are waiting for official statements from their respective city/state governments so they can invoke the force majeure clause in their contracts with the hotels, convention centers, and possibly certain guests. Some of them might happen, but I'd suspect most of them already know it ain't happening and are just waiting to make it official.
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I suspect most cons will cancel for the rest of the year. Its going to be a while before the the public has the confidence to travel around the country let alone attend mass gatherings again. Even if theres a con late in the year its not going to make the money that it would a year before and that would be reason enough to invoke that clause.
 
DragoonSierra said:
I suspect most cons will cancel for the rest of the year. Its going to be a while before the the public has the confidence to travel around the country let alone attend mass gatherings again. Even if theres a con late in the year its not going to make the money that it would a year before and that would be reason enough to invoke that clause.
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Most likely, any con that was going to run this year is going to do whatever they can to stay alive at all. The options are more or less: 1) The government doesn't allow them to run, they invoke force majeure, and pray they can survive to next year; 2) Run with an extremely limited capacity, cut back on everything (guests, events, programming, etc.), beg for donations and pray they can survive to next year; or 3) Eat the cancellation fees if the requirements for force majeure can't be met, beg for donations and pray they can survive to next year.

Or, to put it more simply: the cons are going to have a hard time making it to next year, whether they get to run their con or not.

To at least make this semi-relevant to the actual thread: we already know that VAs for Funimation make peanuts, and that the writing/directing doesn't really pay much more. They make most of their money off of appearance fees and autographs, which are going to be heavily limited if non-existent this year. Next year might be better, but a fair number of cons will probably go bankrupt and the ones that don't will likely be in serious financial dire straits; I'd expect either the appearance fees to go lower, or the number of guests to get smaller. The combination of that and the fact that there probably won't be as much anime to license or dub in the next 12 months means that Rial and Marchi are going to be really struggling financially if this winds up going to trial.
 
HTTP Error 404 said:
I suspect Nick has more cards up his sleeve than he admits, and he has openly admitted having some extremely embarrassing dirt. But I'm more interested in... Vic.

Unless they were literally shutting Vic out for decades, he knows ALL KINDS of dirt on these people.
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He probably knows plenty, but most of it is just gossip. Nick seems to have gossip + hard evidence because of men on the inside, but Vic would only know stuff he's seen or been told in passing over the years. It'd be like Huber's affidavit. He could tell stories, but not provide evidence of it.

I can't imagine said:
Most likely, any con that was going to run this year is going to do whatever they can to stay alive at all. The options are more or less: 1) The government doesn't allow them to run, they invoke force majeure, and pray they can survive to next year; 2) Run with an extremely limited capacity, cut back on everything (guests, events, programming, etc.), beg for donations and pray they can survive to next year; or 3) Eat the cancellation fees if the requirements for force majeure can't be met, beg for donations and pray they can survive to next year.

Or, to put it more simply: the cons are going to have a hard time making it to next year, whether they get to run their con or not.

To at least make this semi-relevant to the actual thread: we already know that VAs for Funimation make peanuts, and that the writing/directing doesn't really pay much more. They make most of their money off of appearance fees and autographs, which are going to be heavily limited if non-existent this year. Next year might be better, but a fair number of cons will probably go bankrupt and the ones that don't will likely be in serious financial dire straits; I'd expect either the appearance fees to go lower, or the number of guests to get smaller. The combination of that and the fact that there probably won't be as much anime to license or dub in the next 12 months means that Rial and Marchi are going to be really struggling financially if this winds up going to trial.
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Incidentally, this accelerates the timeline of what I was talking about earlier this year. As I said then, Vic constantly getting people to overbook and bringing comparatively huge lines anywhere he goes to get his autographs mean that he's always hitting his minimum amount and beyond, making the cons he goes to guaranteed money, rather than costing them money (beyond whatever perks they agree to in their pursuit of him). He's a safe option that ensures making money and getting more people to go to cons that might be struggling or hard to get attendees otherwise. Monica and Jamie constantly getting no lines means that they're not hitting their minimum and the convention is forced to pay out of their pocket for the women and not getting boosted attendance. It discourages small cons from doing it, because they can't afford that.

Given Funimation's power over conventions and Sabat's influence, I figured it would take some time before "Monica and Jamie cost the conventions money + whatever their perks are" overrule "Sabat says they have to do it, and if they don't take the M & J losses they won't get a single Funimation actor or sponsorship", but with Funimation/Sony taking heavy hits and the conventions losing a year of revenue, they won't have the luxury of booking bad guests for politics (even if they're determined not to book good ones for politics) like they can do when they're successful and have money buffer. Much as we can probably expect to see the two fired/"released" from Funimation projects quicker now, them dropping off the convention scene is likely going to be sped up too.
 
Allanon said:
He probably knows plenty, but most of it is just gossip. Nick seems to have gossip + hard evidence because of men on the inside, but Vic would only know stuff he's seen or been told in passing over the years. It'd be like Huber's affidavit. He could tell stories, but not provide evidence of it.



Incidentally, this accelerates the timeline of what I was talking about earlier this year. As I said then, Vic constantly getting people to overbook and bringing comparatively huge lines anywhere he goes to get his autographs mean that he's always hitting his minimum amount and beyond, making the cons he goes to guaranteed money, rather than costing them money (beyond whatever perks they agree to in their pursuit of him). He's a safe option that ensures making money and getting more people to go to cons that might be struggling or hard to get attendees otherwise. Monica and Jamie constantly getting no lines means that they're not hitting their minimum and the convention is forced to pay out of their pocket for the women and not getting boosted attendance. It discourages small cons from doing it, because they can't afford that.

Given Funimation's power over conventions and Sabat's influence, I figured it would take some time before "Monica and Jamie cost the conventions money + whatever their perks are" overrule "Sabat says they have to do it, and if they don't take the M & J losses they won't get a single Funimation actor or sponsorship", but with Funimation/Sony taking heavy hits and the conventions losing a year of revenue, they won't have the luxury of booking bad guests for politics (even if they're determined not to book good ones for politics) like they can do when they're successful and have money buffer. Much as we can probably expect to see the two fired/"released" from Funimation projects quicker now, them dropping off the convention scene is likely going to be sped up too.
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Surely that sponsorship helps with thier costs right? If it does I imagine that will get them a net gain even if they have to book underperforming guests
 
7proxy said:
Do lawyers use a special kind of word processor that does not have automatic page numbering or do they just do everything by hand because they're from the typewriter era?
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It's mainly MS Word. Often with plug-ins or overlays for Redlining and Revision Control or whatever the law office is using for Document Management. The truth is Word is the universal standard for Word Processing and Document Creation. And bouncing documents between different programs being used by different offices creates weird glitches. Most of the weird formatting we laypeople bitch about is just the nature of the beast with Word and interactions with other programs, and the Lawyers and Courts just know to ignore it. Weird shit sometimes happens when you transmit word Docs or PDF's into things like Court Document Managing systems. All the people involved know to just largely ignore them as the digital artifacts that they are. The occasional formatting glitches are a minor downside of not having to courier shit everywhere all the time at great expense.
 
Adach_Ame said:
So all that exceptional bullshit from Law Dipshits about "Vic is screwed on appeals!" was of course just worthless hot air.
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Pretty much.

If not, though, and if they were actually right, and Martinez was reading it and realized he screwed up and fixed it with a filing, they completely scored an own goal because of their autistic lawtwit addiction to the dunkerino.
 
AnOminous said:
Pretty much.

If not, though, and if they were actually right, and Martinez was reading it and realized he screwed up and fixed it with a filing, they completely scored an own goal because of their autistic lawtwit addiction to the dunkerino.
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So essentially, they celebrated victory too quickly and that bit them in the ass.
 
Big thanks to Pretend Lawyer Martin Bettik for noticing this oversight and bringing it to everyone's attention. All those tweets about Vic not getting to file his replies ensured that he would. Maybe things would've been different if Martin had kept quiet about it.

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