Opinion The Dangerous Rise Of Men Who Won’t Date “Woke” Women

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The word "irrespective" means saying or doing something without taking anything else into account. For example: "Irrespective of the fact that the cost of living has jumped, putting pressure on many people, the government ploughed on with Brexit and argued that there would be no real economic impact."

So it is fitting that white man of the moment, Laurence Fox – who appeared on the BBC’s Question Time programme and told a BAME audience member that Meghan Markle has not been on the receiving end of racism before subsequently appearing on the cover of The Sunday Times to tell the world that he does not "date woke women" and then displaying an appalling understanding of history by calling the inclusion of a Sikh soldier in Sam Mendes' film 1917 "incongruous" – has "irrespective" tattooed on his arm.

Did you hear that at the back, ladies? Laurence Fox – who you perhaps only knew as Billie Piper’s ex-husband because you’ve never seen Lewis (what?) – does not date "woke" women who he believes are being taught that they are "victims", irrespective of whether they are right or not. He thinks that it’s "institutionally racist" to tell the story of the First World War in a racially diverse way, irrespective of the fact that Sikh soldiers absolutely fought for Britain. And he also doesn’t believe in white privilege, irrespective of the fact that he works in a painfully undiverse industry, was privately educated and comes from a wealthy acting family which is nothing short of a dynasty.


Fox is denying racism and sexism, irrespective of whether or not they exist. It’s nothing short of gaslighting. It’s all very Donald Trump. And as you would expect, the whole debacle has lit a fire under anti-woke poster boy Piers Morgan while gaining Fox thousands of extra Twitter followers.

I could go over all the things he’s said; I could use data to prove how wrong he is; I could express concern for his mental health (after all, who really enjoys arguing on Twitter?); I could make jokes about his behaviour. But all of that would be to seriously miss the point.

There’s nothing funny about the things Fox – or Wokey McWokeface as he now wants to be known – is saying. It’s also not particularly sad. It’s dangerous. He is just one very privileged man, and as a result of said privilege, has been given a platform. And he has used that platform to legitimise a bigger backlash against diversity and progress which is unfolding every single day in less public corners of the internet.

Not wanting to date "woke" women, far from being laughable, is actually one of the more insidious aspects of it. Spend an afternoon on any major dating app and you’ll come across (generally white) men saying openly sexist and misogynistic things. They might say "no psychos" or that they "fucking hate big eyebrows" in their bios. And, by and large, they also tend to hold extremely right-wing views and see themselves as victims of liberal thinking.

In fact, as I was writing this, a dear friend sent me a screenshot of a guy she’s just matched with who describes Jordan B Peterson as his "dream dinner guest". Yes, the same Jordan B Peterson who thinks that white privilege is a "Marxist lie" and wants millennials to drop their obsession with "social justice".

I, meanwhile, recently had to block someone who after matching with me launched into a vile rant about how women are "evil", "only want sex" and treat men as though they are "disposable". When I asked him if he hated women he replied that he had "only moderate disdain" for us before asking me whether I didn’t want to date him because I’m actually "pretty rough".


All of this, of course, speaks not only to the presence of the very active online communities of anti-feminist incels but to the prevalence of the hideous and incorrect ideas they promote. It doesn’t take magical thinking to see how men are radicalised by anti-feminism. As the saying goes: "When you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

The reactionary influence of these ideas doesn’t stop at dating, though. As the campaign group Hope Not Hate reported last year, a hostility towards feminism is feeding directly into far-right movements online. They found that a third of young British people today believe that feminism is marginalising or demonising men and warned that these beliefs were a "slip road" to other far-right ideas.

This isn’t just speculation. We know that the number of far-right referrals to the British government’s deradicalisation scheme Prevent has dramatically increased recently. In the year from 2017/18 they jumped by 36%, while referrals for Islamism actually decreased by 14%.

Last year he released an album called A Grief Observed which is largely about his acrimonious split from Piper. When The Times interviewed him about it he turned up wearing a pro-Donald Trump MAGA (Make America Great Again) cap and said it was a "social experiment". He then told the interviewer that he spent a lot of his time watching YouTube interviews which had "totally radicalised" him and caused him to embark on a "crusade against woke culture and political correctness." He wanted, he said, to call one of the songs "Me Too" but was prevented by his record label.

Fox is a case in point that what might start as playing devil’s advocate by wandering the streets in a MAGA cap to provoke "hipsters" can quickly turn into something more sinister.

The far right itself can be difficult to pin down because it isn’t exactly a coherent global movement with a concrete set of ideas. It largely exists online, in Facebook groups, as Twitter accounts, on YouTube and anonymous message boards such as 8chan. But every now and then, their bile spills out dangerously into the offline world.

In 2016 the Labour MP Jo Cox was murdered by far-right terrorist Thomas Mair who, 25 years before he killed her, told a far-right magazine that the "white race" faced a long and very bloody struggle. And it was 8chan that hosted the manifestos of three mass shooters who killed scores of people last year: the El Paso shooter (who left 20 people dead and many more wounded only a couple of weeks ago), the Poway shooter (who opened fire at a synagogue in California last April) and the Christchurch shooter (who killed 51 people at two mosques in New Zealand last March).

Laurence Fox, whether he realises it or not, has just landed the biggest part of his life. He is legitimising hatred and division. And yet he cannot be completely unaware of the role he plays; he has spoken about being 'radicalised' himself on YouTube.

Susan Faludi wrote about the link between violence, anger and anti-feminism prophetically in her book Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women back in 1991. Long before the turbulent times which have seen the rise to power of two male caricatures – Donald Trump to the office of US president and the accession of Boris Johnson as our prime minister – she warned:

"When an attack on home soil causes cultural paroxysms that have nothing to do with the attack, when we respond to real threats to our nation by distrusting ourselves with imagined threats to femininity and family life, when we invest our leaders with a cartoon masculinity and require of them bluster in lieu of a capacity for rational calculation, and when we blame our frailty in ‘fifth column’ feminists – in short, when we base our security on a mythical male strength that can only increase itself against a mythical female weakness – we should know that we are exhibiting the symptoms of a lethal, albeit curable, cultural affliction."

She added: "When the enemy has no face, society will invent one." For men like Fox, who feel they have been wronged somehow, that they are missing out on opportunities because, for once in history, they are being given to other people, women and people of colour become the enemy.

“When the enemy has no face, society will invent one.
SUSAN FALUDI, BACKLASH: THE UNDECLARED WAR AGAINST AMERICAN WOMEN”

You can see it in the abuse and threats received by women MPs and in the wildly different treatment of Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton. While Middleton, who generally keeps herself to herself and says little, has become a pinup heroine for traditionalists, Markle, who has spoken openly about sexism and racism, trying to use her platform for good, has been – quite literally – driven out of the country, condemned for being an outspoken snowflake.

Make no mistake, the far right is already capitalising on Fox’s words, gassing him up and turning him into an icon. He has added to their backlash and given it oxygen. Every time he is invited onto a TV or radio show to talk about it, that oxygen will cause the backlash to burn hotter and faster, irrespective of whether we’re watching or not. It’s important not to trivialise this anti-woke, anti-women backlash. In the end, it’s only by paying attention to it that we can understand it and do something about it.
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According to feminist writer Vicky Spratt, men not wanting to date ‘woke’ women is an “insidious” trend that could lead to the radicalization of terrorists.

In an article for Vice Media outlet Refinery29, Spratt gets all worked up about Laurence Fox, the British actor who recently triggered a monumental hissy fit by daring to suggest that the UK was not a racist country and that “white privilege” doesn’t exist.

Fox has given several interviews in which he explains how he refuses to date ‘woke’ women who are obsessed with political correctness. He even said he dumped his girlfriend last year because she praised Gillette’s insufferable “toxic masculinity” commercial.

According to Spratt, Fox’s dating choices are part of an “insidious” societal trend that will inevitably lead to women being killed by terrorists.

“There’s nothing funny about the things Fox – or Wokey McWokeface as he now wants to be known – is saying. It’s also not particularly sad. It’s dangerous. He is just one very privileged man, and as a result of said privilege, has been given a platform. And he has used that platform to legitimise a bigger backlash against diversity and progress which is unfolding every single day in less public corners of the internet,” she writes.

Spratt then goes on to cite the killing of Labour MP Jo Cox by right-wing terrorist Thomas Mair as well as the Christchurch shooting and the El Paso shooting, despite the fact that none of these shootings had anything to do with anti-feminism or hatred of women.

Spratt’s actual grievance appears to stem from the fact that she is personally struggling to find a boyfriend (most likely because of her God-awful woke opinions) and is resentful towards Fox for touching a raw nerve.

“Spend an afternoon on any major dating app and you’ll come across (generally white) men saying openly sexist and misogynistic things,” whines Spratt (because of course she’s single and obviously bitter about it), before going on to suggest she isn’t having much luck with the dating scene.

Meanwhile, Lawrence Fox is presumably doing just fine because real women are not attracted to low testosterone pussies who spend all day consuming soy products and apologizing for their white privilege.
 
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Why is this a long article? It's common sense among smarter guys not to stick your dick in crazy, and every guy knows at least one guy or family member who made that mistake. Next thing you know, there's a divorce and Karen took the kids and a nice big child support payment.

Woke women have a high chance of being that person, especially since they tend to take part in everything from revenge porn to callout posts about how their ex is a bitch. No guy who isn't thirsty isn't going to fuck someone who will they know will ruin their life when the relationship goes south. That's why female incels like the article author exist, some women guys know to not touch.

Now here's the more interesting part of the article though:
This isn’t just speculation. We know that the number of far-right referrals to the British government’s deradicalisation scheme Prevent has dramatically increased recently. In the year from 2017/18 they jumped by 36%, while referrals for Islamism actually decreased by 14%.

The Prevent program is a highly controversial program shrouded in much secrecy that tries to "de-radicalize" people by putting their name on a government watchlist and staging interventions, among other things. The program relies on people reporting others to the program, for example your teacher or doctor. It has come under fire for not only targeting the Muslim population hard (and failing to stop an attacker) but also due to it's status as a precrime prevention program. The article mostly talks about Prevent as it is used on the Muslim population, but you can guarantee that they use the same or similar tactics on edgelords who posted 13 52 memes and those who misgender troons on Twitter. They already caved recently when Extinction Rebellion was targeted by Prevent.
 
Women have a serious entitlement problem, which is ironic considering that that's one of their main criticisms of incels. I've found women tend to project a lot onto men and I'm kind of tired of it. I'm going to start meeting girls at church.
 
These articles are going to get progressively more fun over the next 10 years as all these single gender studies women start hitting the wall and find themselves childless and alone.
We've already had that for both Jessica Valenti and Amanda Marcotte's careers. Valenti literally wrote an op-ed about how she was mad that she missed male attention post-wall. It's been done, this stereotype's existed for 40+ years now.
Nothing will change, chicks all of one rung above plain will forever ruin themselves via this ideology, letting it fool them from age 15-25 that they're supermodel hot instead of a brief beneficiary of man's desperation for female attention.
 
The sheer fucking entitlement of modern feminists.

Men aren't supposed to be entitled to having a female partner, so where the flying fuck does she get off to feel that she is entitled to a male partner? The sheer fucking hypocrisy.
 
The sheer fucking entitlement of modern feminists.

Men aren't supposed to be entitled to having a female partner, so where the flying fuck does she get off to feel that she is entitled to a male partner? The sheer fucking hypocrisy.

Double-think is a not a bug in the political system of the woke. Its a feature.
 
Surprise surprise, anyone with options will stay away from hateful harpies that will cheat on them if given the chance.

Seriously, a woke woman will cheat on you, and then call you all sorts of horrible things if you don't just throw up your hands and accept being cucked. Next thing you know, you're in a polyamorous relationship and you're one of these suckers: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/mum-t...ip-will-raise-baby-girl-with-four-dads.63780/
 
Woke women are great because they all have low self-esteem and will let you treat them like dirt and fuck them in the ass, but you don't want to date them
 
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I don't think it's her wokeness that puts off men, so much as her complete lack of tits (and presence of feminine penis)
It might be the eyebrows to be honest. I mean, there are many pretty women with large eyebrows, nobody hates the women of Greece and Italy. But this, is not one of those pretty women with large eyebrows.

It's amusing that the Sikh thing comes into this. Sikhs and Hindus did fight on the Western Front, but I doubt they were significantly integrated into British units in any meaningful way. Fox was right. If you want to make a movie about those men, make it. Make it about how they really did fight in non-integrated units like demons side by side with each other, as inwardly honourable warriors and men no doubt in most cases, for an evil empire that didn't respect them. Shades of the modern Western militaries.
 
Why is this a long article? It's common sense among smarter guys not to stick your dick in crazy, and every guy knows at least one guy or family member who made that mistake. Next thing you know, there's a divorce and Karen took the kids and a nice big child support payment.

Because "don't stick your dick in crazy" is problematic when you're the "crazy" who isn't getting dick. All she could do is write an article about it.
 
Women have a serious entitlement problem, which is ironic considering that that's one of their main criticisms of incels. I've found women tend to project a lot onto men and I'm kind of tired of it. I'm going to start meeting girls at church.
most woke women grew up in privilege. and are in love with the idea that just because they are women, they deserve everything. look at the media that consume, "woman good, man bad, woman win, man lose."
they've wittled they're whole being down into "i got a cunt, worship me". and they are shocked... SHOCKED... that the world has the nerve to say "so what?"
 
That is quite possibly the worst idea that I've heard all week. And this morning I've been trading blows with a sperg who gave Chris $1200 for Bronycon.

But imagine that, an entire generation of super-spergs that make Elliot Rodger look like a cool, suave, non-autistic and socially adept Chad in comparison.



Better to attract no bitches than woke bitches. If I see certain buzzwords in a dating profile?

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Jesus, they still think the "male feminist" dating strategy works?
Maybe men won't date woke women because non-woke women are less likely to falsely accuse them of rape?
 
These articles are going to get progressively more fun over the next 10 years as all these single gender studies women start hitting the wall and find themselves childless and alone.
Well there are sperm banks but I believe they made it hard in the Obama era to adopt poor African kids due to Colonism shit or something if I am correct.
 
Maybe men won't date woke women because non-woke women are less likely to falsely accuse them of rape?

Forget the false rape accusations, you're lucky if they don't pull off your underwear and chop off your twig and berries over relatively minor shit.

"Combating the patriarchy, one snip at a time"

Well there are sperm banks but I believe they made it hard in the Obama era to adopt poor African kids due to Colonism shit or something if I am correct.

Colonism? Well, there probably is a lot of sperm in Obama's colon.
 
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Wait this woman gets even better.

Her current pinned tweet is crying about how crazy women like her can't get reliable supplies of valium cheap without a prescription. How about just facing up to your failures, hmmmm?
https://archive.li/dBIbj
I find it impossible to believe that there's any psychiatrist out there who wouldn't prescribe this human fainting couch Valium by the 10 gallon bucket.
 
I think most woke women are either black, weigh 500lbs, or have a dick.
Percentage wise there's really not a lot of black woke women, because anyone who is a minority gets told to shut up by woke white women for not being a minority "correctly" in the view of said white women (translation: woke nonwhite women point out how privileged the white ones are and they don't like hearing it).
 
Guys don't like insomniac ramblings.

Man, guys just want a girl who's happy to spend time with them, and who they can make off color jokes to. and maybe do anal once in a while.

Guys just want someone they can be vulnerable with who also won't stab them in the diaphragm and maybe will let them do anal with them once in a while.
 
"They found that a third of young British people today believe that feminism is marginalising or demonising men"

Well. There you go. That is the bombshell here. If a whole third of a country disagrees with you, maybe it isnt just le ebil natsees brainwashing them. A third of all young people is no insignificant number. Perhaps you might be the one who is increasingly out of touch? No. It is your fellow young people who are wrong. Must be.
 
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