Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

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Probably why Vic essentially left all to his lawyers and just focused on doing Cons and fan meetups.

Funnily enough Vic is not losing as much money on this as the defendants, not is he bothered by all the shit a lawsuit entails because he left that to his lawyers which the Defendants didn't do, and if lines at conventions are a good measure he hadn't lost much if any fans unlike the Defendants.

Fucking hell even when they are technically winning Vic still comes up on top all things considered.
Considering the fees and such, I would like to believe Ty is giving Vic a discount rate on Lemwahs bullshit filings that he was forced to respond too. I would like to think some lawyers, that still have ethics and actual standards, do that in billing when they're forced to respond to frivolous shit and the client then gets basically punished for the other sides shit for having to pay more to their own attorney.

But yea regardless of whats happened, Vic always seems to be on the top, as you said hes letting his Lawyers do the work, trusting them to do their job and only contact him when needed.
 
Considering the fees and such, I would like to believe Ty is giving Vic a discount rate on Lemwahs bullshit filings that he was forced to respond too. I would like to think some lawyers, that still have ethics and actual standards, do that in billing when they're forced to respond to frivolous shit and the client then gets basically punished for the other sides shit for having to pay more to their own attorney.

But yea regardless of whats happened, Vic always seems to be on the top, as you said hes letting his Lawyers do the work, trusting them to do their job and only contact him when needed.
Even if vic aint getting a discount(because ty does have people to pay), I like to think he is not doing frivolous shit that drives up vics cost unnecessarily, unlike lemonhead.
 
Even if vic aint getting a discount(because ty does have people to pay), I like to think he is not doing frivolous shit that drives up vics cost unnecessarily, unlike lemonhead.
Yea I don't believe Ty has done a single thing to drive up costs, but lemonhead has, which in turn costs Vic. Cause even lemons throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks filings, if not responded to get to stay without much argument if I'm remembering correctly.
 
Yea I don't believe Ty has done a single thing to drive up costs, but lemonhead has, which in turn costs Vic. Cause even lemons throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks filings, if not responded to get to stay without much argument if I'm remembering correctly.
Which is why he was obsessed with the GFM. He wanted to try and drain it and seeing it continuously going up drove him mad. Probably had the goal of trying to make vic drop the suit because of cost, but hard to do that when money keeps getting put in and he hasnt had a drop a dollar down yet. Because it kept going up, his next goal was to try and get it taken down, and then when that failed, was to try and take it.

In fact that is probably how he practiced law in the first place. He was one of those lawyers.

edit: and this is why I find it wonderful that it was stated they cannot legally take the GFM and even more wonderful to know that vic can make it hell for any of them to collect on fees if he loses appeals(since you know Ty will probably help him with asset protection).
 
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Which is why he was obsessed with the GFM. He wanted to try and drain it and seeing it continuously going up drove him mad. Probably had the goal of trying to make vic drop the suit because of cost, but hard to do that when money keeps getting put in and he hasnt had a drop a dollar down yet. Because it kept going up, his next goal was to try and get it taken down, and then when that failed, was to try and take it.

In fact that is probably how he practiced law in the first place. He was one of those lawyers.

edit: and this is why I find it wonderful that it was stated they cannot legally take the GFM and even more wonderful to know that vic can make it hell for any of them to collect on fees if he loses appeals(since you know Ty will probably help him with asset protection).
No reason Ty shouldn't, as that's that firms specialty.
 
If the defendants kept silent and didn't take to social media for their glory crusade, they could have gotten away with it.

If they quietly got their faked testimonies, their false accusations, hell even archived the PULL thread and created one single collection of info, passed it around under the table, reached out to cons quietly with a nice little PDF and said "Hey, I thought you should see this" without implicating themselves...

And after all of that, give him their document.

Got him barred, fired, blacklisted, destroyed, etc.
That would have devastated Vic beyond anything else. He wouldn't have recovered.

They could have won if they didn't make this a #MeToo situation where they had to get online and tell everyone what their moves are. Their dumbest decision was social media and maintaining their presence with angry screeching and incriminating takes.

And I firmly believe it'll be their downfall because they can't stop.
 
If the defendants kept silent and didn't take to social media for their glory crusade, they could have gotten away with it.

If they quietly got their faked testimonies, their false accusations, hell even archived the PULL thread and created one single collection of info, passed it around under the table, reached out to cons quietly with a nice little PDF and said "Hey, I thought you should see this" without implicating themselves...

And after all of that, give him their document.

Got him barred, fired, blacklisted, destroyed, etc.
That would have devastated Vic beyond anything else. He wouldn't have recovered.

They could have won if they didn't make this a #MeToo situation where they had to get online and tell everyone what their moves are. Their dumbest decision was social media and maintaining their presence with angry screeching and incriminating takes.

And I firmly believe it'll be their downfall because they can't stop.
I kinda have to disagree with you on that, it has already been said that baseless accusations like the pull tread have been around for a while, and the did Jack shit.

No one is going to listen to random nobodies on the internet, at least not in the con scene, of that there is a lot, and not only accusing Vic. The reason the accusations against Vic did anything was because the very public statements of the Defendants, had they not done that, had they only fired Vic and keep silent Vic would have bounced back without any issue, because his fanbase is a) bigger than most dub actors and b) really devoted to him.

The public outrage mob caused damage due to some voice actors close to Vic giving credibility to the accusations, had they done that from closed doors and in secrecy almost no convention would have cancelled Vic.
 
I kinda have to disagree with you on that, it has already been said that baseless accusations like the pull tread have been around for a while, and the did Jack shit.

No one is going to listen to random nobodies on the internet, at least not in the con scene, of that there is a lot, and not only accusing Vic. The reason the accusations against Vic did anything was because the very public statements of the Defendants, had they not done that, had they only fired Vic and keep silent Vic would have bounced back without any issue, because his fanbase is a) bigger than most dub actors and b) really devoted to him.

The public outrage mob caused damage due to some voice actors close to Vic giving credibility to the accusations, had they done that from closed doors and in secrecy almost no convention would have cancelled Vic.

If they made a formal document and used it as means to bar and fire him with all the dozens of exceptionally ridiculous shit without giving him any means of challenging or even wrapping his head around shit he would've come down.

What you have to realize is the only reason we're here now is because the fans got involved.

If Vic had nobody in his corner and the fans didn't know he would've withdrawn. He wasn't the one who reached out. He wasn't the one who rallied shit together. Fans believed in him and found him the resources. Fans brought Nick to him. Fans encouraged him to fight.

If they had cut him off or made him believe he needed to cut himself off they would've been successful. It's about the psychology of forcing him to see these accusations with the knowledge that all of his "friends" and co-workers have seen these and believe them to be true, as well as adding their own stories.

Do you know how jarring that would be? And if he went public with this, he'd be the one bringing all the accusations to the media.
Because they operated silently. They didn't bring it online. If he wanted outside opinion he would have to address these things himself.
 
Here's the beginning Bleak House. The third paragraph is a real doozy. It contains anything anyone should need to know about the legal system.

The raw afternoon is rawest, and the dense fog is densest, and the muddy streets are muddiest near that leaden-headed old obstruction, appropriate ornament for the threshold of a leaden-headed old corporation, Temple Bar. And hard by Temple Bar, in Lincoln's Inn Hall, at the very heart of the fog, sits the Lord High Chancellor in his High Court of Chancery.

Never can there come fog too thick, never can there come mud and mire too deep, to assort with the groping and floundering condition which this High Court of Chancery, most pestilent of hoary sinners, holds this day in the sight of heaven and earth.

On such an afternoon, if ever, the Lord High Chancellor ought to be sitting her--as here he is--with a foggy glory round his head, softly fenced in with crimson cloth and curtains, addressed by a large advocate with great whiskers, a little voice, and an interminable brief, and outwardly directing his contemplation to the lantern in the roof, where he can see nothing but fog. On such an afternoon some score of members of the High Court of Chancery bar ought to be--as here they are--mistily engaged in one of the ten thousand stages of an endless cause, tripping one another up on slippery precedents, groping knee-deep in technicalities, running their goat-hair and horsehair warded heads against walls of words and making a pretence of equity with serious faces, as players might. On such an afternoon the various solicitors in the cause, some two or three of whom have inherited it from their fathers, who made a fortune by it, ought to be--as are they not?--ranged in a line, in a long matted well (but you might look in vain for truth at the bottom of it) between the registrar's red table and the silk gowns, with bills, cross-bills, answers, rejoinders, injunctions, affidavits, issues, references to masters, masters' reports, mountains of costly nonsense, piled before them. Well may the court be dim, with wasting candles here and there; well may the fog hang heavy in it, as if it would never get out; well may the stained-glass windows lose their colour and admit no light of day into the place; well may the uninitiated from the streets, who peep in through the glass panes in the door, be deterred from entrance by its owlish aspect and by the drawl, languidly echoing to the roof from the padded dais where the Lord High Chancellor looks into the lantern that has no light in it and where the attendant wigs are all stuck in a fog-bank! This is the Court of Chancery, which has its decaying houses and its blighted lands in every shire, which has its worn-out lunatic in every madhouse and its dead in every churchyard, which has its ruined suitor with his slipshod heels and threadbare dress borrowing and begging through the round of every man's acquaintance, which gives to monied might the means abundantly of wearying out the right, which so exhausts finances, patience, courage, hope, so overthrows the brain and breaks the heart, that there is not an honourable man among its practitioners who would not give--who does not often give--the warning, "Suffer any wrong that can be done you rather than come here!"

Particularly, that very last line. Good fucking Christ the law is a beast.
It probably says something deep, dark, and twisted about my immortal soul that I read this and think "This sounds like my sort of field".
 
If they made a formal document and used it as means to bar and fire him with all the dozens of exceptionally ridiculous shit without giving him any means of challenging or even wrapping his head around shit he would've come down.

What you have to realize is the only reason we're here now is because the fans got involved.

If Vic had nobody in his corner and the fans didn't know he would've withdrawn. He wasn't the one who reached out. He wasn't the one who rallied shit together. Fans believed in him and found him the resources. Fans brought Nick to him. Fans encouraged him to fight.

If they had cut him off or made him believe he needed to cut himself off they would've been successful. It's about the psychology of forcing him to see these accusations with the knowledge that all of his "friends" and co-workers have seen these and believe them to be true, as well as adding their own stories.

Do you know how jarring that would be? And if he went public with this, he'd be the one bringing all the accusations to the media.
Because they operated silently. They didn't bring it online. If he wanted outside opinion he would have to address these things himself.
The issue is that they couldn't, we saw that with the Kameha con texts, the guy in charge regardless of what the fiance of a voice actress said was not willing to cut Vic from the Con, the only reason he did was because 1- Ron said a police investigation was in the works and because Funimation had publicly cut this with Vic due to his abusive conduct, had they done this not on the public eye Cons wouldn't have cared, not would have fans, again you have to remember the actual work of dubbing gives a very low amount of income, they fire him and start attacking him behind close doors, no one would care, Vic himself has said that there are people that can't support him openly due to the public shit storm the Defendants made.

This was the only way to really cut Vic off the industry, anything short of public statements to try and demonize him would have done nothing beyond a small inconvenience.

Because again his fanbase is fucking strong, the only way they could really cut him from his fanbase is getting him cancelled from conventions permanently, and for that the whole public shit show was necessary. Yes gaslighting him was an option but it would not have been enough to cut him from his fans and his connection with his fans is what Vic appreciates the most.

Edit, ok I realized this was offtopic so if any mods want to get this posts out of this tread and put it in the general tread that is fine.
 
Even if vic aint getting a discount(because ty does have people to pay), I like to think he is not doing frivolous shit that drives up vics cost unnecessarily, unlike lemonhead.
May be a moot point even, if Vic wins fees at trial.

How funny is it that this years-long saga might end in MoRon/Marchi/Funni essentially making a forced 300k+ donation to a battered woman's shelter?

That's just too appropriate. Considering it's real assault survivors they're hurting by conflating "hugs and kisses" with "the legal definition of sexual harassment" and per se assault.
 
I'm actually failing to see how using Lawyers was in any way an improvement over good old fashioned dueling. It was clean. It was fast. It got them out in the fresh air. And left minimal mess to clean up. Whereas the messes left by Lawyers...

Something people don't know about the dueling thing is almost every time people actually just deliberately missed.
 
MoRon's filing from Friday that I haven't seen anyone posted yet.
Hey @AnOminous just curious, since the Appeal already has a case number shouldn't Lemonaids used and filed it with that (and in the COA) since its a cross appeal? Or would it get a different case number? Just seems odd to file in Tarrant when the COA already has a case number attached to it.
 
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