Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

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Apparently, there's a tweet going around from T. Greg Douchecanoe that a cross-appeal on the attorney's fees was filed.

Anyone have any idea about this? I can't get to the tweet right now...
 
To everyone saying that Sony will make Funi settle you should consider this. Sony is a multibilion dollar international company ran by humanoid sharks in milion dollar suits.

Soyny is not only vastly wealthier than Funi, it's vastly stupider too. It may be the dumbest media corporation in existence.

Apparently, there's a tweet going around from T. Greg Douchecanoe that a cross-appeal on the attorney's fees was filed.

Anyone have any idea about this? I can't get to the tweet right now...

If it hasn't been already, it's inevitable. Pretty much everything is going to be appealed. On a de novo standard of review, there's no really good reason not to appeal anything you aren't completely satisfied with. This is arguably the biggest flaw of the TCPA, it doesn't actually get rid of defamation cases, it just adds an obligatory trip to the appeals court for every case.
 
Hey, aren't appeals for losers, Greggy? Armzgurl? Manjaw? Lawtwitter?

Sounds to me like they're scared of the TCPA appeal and want to try to stall and deflect with everything they've got.
 
They're going to appeal everything they don't like. Which is more or less what Vic has done too. The real "trial" at this stage of TCPA is now at the appeals court, so instead of paying for one judge to Chupp it up, you pay for three. Great. Awesome law. Real money-saver.

Seriously look at this shit. On both sides, something like a million dollars in fees have been generated for a fucking motion to dismiss. That's literally all that happened. Can you believe this fucking shit? Remember when Nick was talking early on in the case about how much a lawsuit costs? MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD. That is true no matter how fucking rich you are.
 
They're going to appeal everything they don't like. Which is more or less what Vic has done too. The real "trial" at this stage of TCPA is now at the appeals court, so instead of paying for one judge to Chupp it up, you pay for three. Great. Awesome law. Real money-saver.

Chupp, no longer having to deal with any of this for the time being: If I'm lucky I'll be retired by the time this gets resolved. Fuck them Chinese cartoons.
 
About the possible settlements and backstabs:

-Jamie is the most likely to want to settle. I bet that barely-humanoid semi-sentient pile of trash (by her own admission) has essentially no such thing even close to a spine anywhere in the half-rotted, bloated homage to nurgle she charitably refers to as a body. That being said. She's extremely unlikely to want to retract anything. Because of the corruption caused by the mind altering chemicals that the gifts of our eternal grandfather havd left her with, she's likely to offer to backstab everyone else with the joy of a nurgling but not to publicly admit to anything. So Ty will like that deal, but Vic will likely be as repulsed by it as he is by her. So I don't know if it'll get to anything. That is of course assuming the CoA doesn't drop her. Sam isn't much of a factor in this. He's likely to want to settle as soon as she's brought back, but he won't be able to convince marchi to let go of her ego.

-Funimation comes next. Now. They will LOATHE the possibility of settlement. But they don't have free will. Worshippers of tzeentch as they are their fate was never in their hands. It's in sony's. And much like the changer of ways himself Sony claims to love bringing hope and positive change into the world but in truth they are as likely to backstab whoever they can as they are to lick their fingers and stick them in an electrical socket whenever the chance arises. And that is a problem here. If this was something like bully hunters I'd see sony bending in seconds. But truth is sticking to the defendants would be the equivalent of sticking their fingers in the socket. So I can't decide which poison they will choose. The lawyers will be pushing for settlement though, and sony sometimes listens to them. But they also always listen to the brainwashed string of code in charge of their marketing, who will push against it. So I truly don't know. I would settle if I were them. But that'd be assuming they're sane, and they're clearly not.

-So delving into the third blight of humanity known as Ronny boye. He's a firm worshipper of khorne. He will fight to the bitter end. Might even cut up a dog or two just to make a point. And lemwah seems to have gone down the blood path too, so, that's a lost cause, even if he somehow survives for long enough without oxygen deprivation finally finishing him off.

-and finally. Monica. Ah our resident slaaneshy is certainly as manipulative and self centered as her choice in deity sugests. But she does need her rabid sheepdog by her side. Or at least thinks she does. And she has too much of an ego to accept her misdeeds, much less admit to them. I can't see her betraying her partners in crime. At meast not until she can get enough from the backstab.

Again, this is all assuming the COA isn't a chupp voltron. Not saying I think they might be. Just saying I haven't been able to discard the possibility.
 
If you want the real truth about the law, and about courts, read Bleak House by Charles Dickens, it explains every bit of this shit. It is an absolute butcher shop of lives, a slaughterhouse of dreams, and a destroyer of souls. There is nothing more fucking worthless than the practice of law.
 
To everyone saying that Sony will make Funi settle you should consider this. Sony is a multibilion dollar international company ran by humanoid sharks in milion dollar suits. They have far more resources to just let this drag out for years and years, and probably are just as content to sit on their hands and not put their finger on the scale either way. They do not care who is right or wrong, they realize that making a statement that supports or goes against either side will cause them to possibly take a hit. From their perspective, they probably just want to ignore it to try to grift both sides for dollery doos. And if they have been paying any attention to Nick who has been telling ISWV to support these conventions that have Vic and not to cause a scene for these others, they would probably see that as "if we just dont make a move one way or another people will still buy our stuff". Now I am not saying that will work or that it makes sense, but it is a distinct possibility. They do not care about what is moral, right, or ethical, they just care about getting as much cold hard cash as possible. And picking a side between the Hatfields and McCoys would mean that they have to alienate one side of the market over the other. On the other hand, if they see that one side offers significantly more profit margins than the other, they will orbital nuke the other side without remorse; but that would require an overwhelming lead off, like %80+ theoretically.
I take a hard guess but about alienating one side of the market, it's not like those who are on the KV are those who buy a lot of things from FUNi.
 
Here's the beginning Bleak House. The third paragraph is a real doozy. It contains anything anyone should need to know about the legal system.

The raw afternoon is rawest, and the dense fog is densest, and the muddy streets are muddiest near that leaden-headed old obstruction, appropriate ornament for the threshold of a leaden-headed old corporation, Temple Bar. And hard by Temple Bar, in Lincoln's Inn Hall, at the very heart of the fog, sits the Lord High Chancellor in his High Court of Chancery.

Never can there come fog too thick, never can there come mud and mire too deep, to assort with the groping and floundering condition which this High Court of Chancery, most pestilent of hoary sinners, holds this day in the sight of heaven and earth.

On such an afternoon, if ever, the Lord High Chancellor ought to be sitting her--as here he is--with a foggy glory round his head, softly fenced in with crimson cloth and curtains, addressed by a large advocate with great whiskers, a little voice, and an interminable brief, and outwardly directing his contemplation to the lantern in the roof, where he can see nothing but fog. On such an afternoon some score of members of the High Court of Chancery bar ought to be--as here they are--mistily engaged in one of the ten thousand stages of an endless cause, tripping one another up on slippery precedents, groping knee-deep in technicalities, running their goat-hair and horsehair warded heads against walls of words and making a pretence of equity with serious faces, as players might. On such an afternoon the various solicitors in the cause, some two or three of whom have inherited it from their fathers, who made a fortune by it, ought to be--as are they not?--ranged in a line, in a long matted well (but you might look in vain for truth at the bottom of it) between the registrar's red table and the silk gowns, with bills, cross-bills, answers, rejoinders, injunctions, affidavits, issues, references to masters, masters' reports, mountains of costly nonsense, piled before them. Well may the court be dim, with wasting candles here and there; well may the fog hang heavy in it, as if it would never get out; well may the stained-glass windows lose their colour and admit no light of day into the place; well may the uninitiated from the streets, who peep in through the glass panes in the door, be deterred from entrance by its owlish aspect and by the drawl, languidly echoing to the roof from the padded dais where the Lord High Chancellor looks into the lantern that has no light in it and where the attendant wigs are all stuck in a fog-bank! This is the Court of Chancery, which has its decaying houses and its blighted lands in every shire, which has its worn-out lunatic in every madhouse and its dead in every churchyard, which has its ruined suitor with his slipshod heels and threadbare dress borrowing and begging through the round of every man's acquaintance, which gives to monied might the means abundantly of wearying out the right, which so exhausts finances, patience, courage, hope, so overthrows the brain and breaks the heart, that there is not an honourable man among its practitioners who would not give--who does not often give--the warning, "Suffer any wrong that can be done you rather than come here!"

Particularly, that very last line. Good fucking Christ the law is a beast.
 
Here's the beginning Bleak House. The third paragraph is a real doozy. It contains anything anyone should need to know about the legal system.

The raw afternoon is rawest, and the dense fog is densest, and the muddy streets are muddiest near that leaden-headed old obstruction, appropriate ornament for the threshold of a leaden-headed old corporation, Temple Bar. And hard by Temple Bar, in Lincoln's Inn Hall, at the very heart of the fog, sits the Lord High Chancellor in his High Court of Chancery.

Never can there come fog too thick, never can there come mud and mire too deep, to assort with the groping and floundering condition which this High Court of Chancery, most pestilent of hoary sinners, holds this day in the sight of heaven and earth.

On such an afternoon, if ever, the Lord High Chancellor ought to be sitting her--as here he is--with a foggy glory round his head, softly fenced in with crimson cloth and curtains, addressed by a large advocate with great whiskers, a little voice, and an interminable brief, and outwardly directing his contemplation to the lantern in the roof, where he can see nothing but fog. On such an afternoon some score of members of the High Court of Chancery bar ought to be--as here they are--mistily engaged in one of the ten thousand stages of an endless cause, tripping one another up on slippery precedents, groping knee-deep in technicalities, running their goat-hair and horsehair warded heads against walls of words and making a pretence of equity with serious faces, as players might. On such an afternoon the various solicitors in the cause, some two or three of whom have inherited it from their fathers, who made a fortune by it, ought to be--as are they not?--ranged in a line, in a long matted well (but you might look in vain for truth at the bottom of it) between the registrar's red table and the silk gowns, with bills, cross-bills, answers, rejoinders, injunctions, affidavits, issues, references to masters, masters' reports, mountains of costly nonsense, piled before them. Well may the court be dim, with wasting candles here and there; well may the fog hang heavy in it, as if it would never get out; well may the stained-glass windows lose their colour and admit no light of day into the place; well may the uninitiated from the streets, who peep in through the glass panes in the door, be deterred from entrance by its owlish aspect and by the drawl, languidly echoing to the roof from the padded dais where the Lord High Chancellor looks into the lantern that has no light in it and where the attendant wigs are all stuck in a fog-bank! This is the Court of Chancery, which has its decaying houses and its blighted lands in every shire, which has its worn-out lunatic in every madhouse and its dead in every churchyard, which has its ruined suitor with his slipshod heels and threadbare dress borrowing and begging through the round of every man's acquaintance, which gives to monied might the means abundantly of wearying out the right, which so exhausts finances, patience, courage, hope, so overthrows the brain and breaks the heart, that there is not an honourable man among its practitioners who would not give--who does not often give--the warning, "Suffer any wrong that can be done you rather than come here!"

Particularly, that very last line. Good fucking Christ the law is a beast.

Always worth reminding people that the Jarndyce v Jarndyce case in Bleak House was based on an actual case that had been dragging on for 55 years when the book was written. It ultimately kept going for 117 years before the court abandoned the case. Not because a final judgement was reached, but because the money for the lawyers ran out.

(You can tell when Dickens was writing in a bit of a mood, and that 3rd paragraph is a great example.)

It's a running gag here in Weeb Wars that all this exceptional behavior is happening in the first arc, in the first quarter, before the real trial starts, etc. This is more truth than joke. Civil courts are not designed to deliver speedy justice, they are designed to make sure the fewest people possible have a positive experience going through that torture.
 
Always worth reminding people that the Jarndyce v Jarndyce case in Bleak House was based on an actual case that had been dragging on for 55 years when the book was written. It ultimately kept going for 117 years before the court abandoned the case. Not because a final judgement was reached, but because the money for the lawyers ran out.

(You can tell when Dickens was writing in a bit of a mood, and that 3rd paragraph is a great example.)

It's a running gag here in Weeb Wars that all this exceptional behavior is happening in the first arc, in the first quarter, before the real trial starts, etc. This is more truth than joke. Civil courts are not designed to deliver speedy justice, they are designed to make sure the fewest people possible have a positive experience going through that torture.

Look at how sheerly terrible this process is for everyone involved. Court is only marginally better than the previous concept where people just had shootouts at dawn. People think Ty was just shitposting when he said that shit. He was telling God's honest truth.
 
Always worth reminding people that the Jarndyce v Jarndyce case in Bleak House was based on an actual case that had been dragging on for 55 years when the book was written. It ultimately kept going for 117 years before the court abandoned the case. Not because a final judgement was reached, but because the money for the lawyers ran out.

(You can tell when Dickens was writing in a bit of a mood, and that 3rd paragraph is a great example.)

It's a running gag here in Weeb Wars that all this exceptional behavior is happening in the first arc, in the first quarter, before the real trial starts, etc. This is more truth than joke. Civil courts are not designed to deliver speedy justice, they are designed to make sure the fewest people possible have a positive experience going through that torture.
One of my favorite things I have learned in the course of Weeb Wars. It also reminds me of a Justice league plot where Jon Stewart is put on trial for genocide on a planet that solved its lawyer problem by making all sentences death and making it to where lawyers got the same punishment their clients did. The legal system is a meat grinder into which all sorts of garbage is thrown in to make tiny hot dogs for as long as there is meat to feed into it.
 
One of my favorite things I have learned in the course of Weeb Wars. It also reminds me of a Justice league plot where Jon Stewart is put on trial for genocide on a planet that solved its lawyer problem by making all sentences death and making it to where lawyers got the same punishment their clients did. The legal system is a meat grinder into which all sorts of garbage is thrown in to make tiny hot dogs for as long as there is meat to feed into it.
Jesus I remember that episode. I think the green lantern was put on trial and flash was wanting to represent him because there was no lawyer to represent the green lantern. Sometimes I think about that episode, but I have thought about it a lot more this year.

Funny enough it was never a show I was fond of when younger and it has been a long ass time since I even seen justice league. It was a show my cousins liked to watch and I just remember that one episode only. and they did watch this show often, so it has stuck with me all this time.Even then, it was that one scene that stuck with me too.
 
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If you want the real truth about the law, and about courts, read Bleak House by Charles Dickens, it explains every bit of this shit. It is an absolute butcher shop of lives, a slaughterhouse of dreams, and a destroyer of souls. There is nothing more fucking worthless than the practice of law.
I assume you read this book after lawyerising yourself and realised "shit, I made a terrible decision". This explains why you hate lawyers like your old teacher explains why you hate fat women, my headcanon is coming together!
 
It's a running gag here in Weeb Wars that all this exceptional behavior is happening in the first arc, in the first quarter, before the real trial starts, etc. This is more truth than joke. Civil courts are not designed to deliver speedy justice, they are designed to make sure the fewest people possible have a positive experience going through that torture.

It's something I mentioned in here months ago, but it bears repeating: even if you're 100% in the right, even if you feel like you absolutely need to sue somebody, even if you actually win the judgement in the end...lawsuits are not pleasant experiences. You spend thousands and thousands of dollars, maybe even more. Everything takes forever to happen and things seem to get delayed constantly. For most people, they have no idea how the civil court process works, so they spend most of it in confusion about why anything is happening, and lawyers are not necessarily masters of explaining things to laypeople. A lot of times, you're stuck either taking an unsatisfying settlement deal or just having to drop the suit since you don't have money.
 
Look at how sheerly terrible this process is for everyone involved. Court is only marginally better than the previous concept where people just had shootouts at dawn. People think Ty was just shitposting when he said that shit. He was telling God's honest truth.

I'm actually failing to see how using Lawyers was in any way an improvement over good old fashioned dueling. It was clean. It was fast. It got them out in the fresh air. And left minimal mess to clean up. Whereas the messes left by Lawyers...
 
It's something I mentioned in here months ago, but it bears repeating: even if you're 100% in the right, even if you feel like you absolutely need to sue somebody, even if you actually win the judgement in the end...lawsuits are not pleasant experiences. You spend thousands and thousands of dollars, maybe even more. Everything takes forever to happen and things seem to get delayed constantly. For most people, they have no idea how the civil court process works, so they spend most of it in confusion about why anything is happening, and lawyers are not necessarily masters of explaining things to laypeople. A lot of times, you're stuck either taking an unsatisfying settlement deal or just having to drop the suit since you don't have money.
Probably why Vic essentially left all to his lawyers and just focused on doing Cons and fan meetups.

Funnily enough Vic is not losing as much money on this as the defendants, not is he bothered by all the shit a lawsuit entails because he left that to his lawyers which the Defendants didn't do, and if lines at conventions are a good measure he hadn't lost much if any fans unlike the Defendants.

Fucking hell even when they are technically winning Vic still comes up on top all things considered.
 
Probably why Vic essentially left all to his lawyers and just focused on doing Cons and fan meetups.

Funnily enough Vic is not losing as much money on this as the defendants, not is he bothered by all the shit a lawsuit entails because he left that to his lawyers which the Defendants didn't do, and if lines at conventions are a good measure he hadn't lost much if any fans unlike the Defendants.

Fucking hell even when they are technically winning Vic still comes up on top all things considered.
It has been said that him initiating the lawsuit has given confidence in some places to invite him(not reinvite like KK) since they saw him fighting back. Goes to show in the era of social media kangaroo court, silence is guilt.
 
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