Donald Smith vs Jonathan Yaniv - 8/11/2020 Criminal Case Update

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Donald is kind of live, droning on about the same old same old. His paypal repetition is bugging me. Someone, please ask him if Petch tried to date him.
Crap I always forget something when I post. Here's your Petch Catch of the day:
 

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Donald is kind of live, droning on about the same old same old. His paypal repetition is bugging me. Someone, please ask him if Petch tried to date him.
Crap I always forget something when I post. Here's your Petch Catch of the day:

?? He didn't say shit about his paypal, at least not tonight.

Also my feed says Blair's saying some more shit about JY in a livestream at the moment. brb.

*edit* fuck Youtube, it's just Donald again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfi0y3qmkY

*second edit* ya the tard is spamming his paypal all over this livechat. (sigh)
 
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?? He didn't say shit about his paypal, at least not tonight.

Also my feed says Blair's saying some more shit about JY in a livestream at the moment. brb.

*edit* fuck Youtube, it's just Donald again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bfi0y3qmkY
Here's just 2. But it's getting a little more lively, since Yaniv's sending him more harassing emails as we speak, suicide baiting etc
 

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Donald is kind of live, droning on about the same old same old. His paypal repetition is bugging me. Someone, please ask him if Petch tried to date him.
Crap I always forget something when I post. Here's your Petch Catch of the day:
Again, the mythical NO-MAP/virtuous pedophile. They probably think that as long as they are just viewing child porn and aren't actually touching a real live child, it is a totally victimless crime. Forgetting that the kids in those pictures not only were violated once but continue to be violated every time someone jerks off to it. Imagine growing up and knowing that photos of your uncle or your soccer coach raping you are out there and there's nothing you can do about it.

Therapy doesn't cure pedos. Studies have shown that pedos have a fairly high recidivism rate (1 study shows after a 25 year follow up that 52% re-offended and another showed that after 25 years 75% re-offended). And that's just for convictions. Child molestation, in general, is a very under reported crime. Another study showed that when sex offenders self-reported their crimes during treatment, only 5% of those were found in official records. Meaning they get away with it very, very often.

So I have zero tolerance for anyone who is NO-MAP. Get the fuck out with that garbage. If someone is NO-MAP and they don't want to offend, the best thing they can do is to neck themselves. And I mean that in all sincerity. Do the world a favor and preemptively self-apply the death penalty.
 
Therapy doesn't cure pedos. Studies have shown that pedos have a fairly high recidivism rate (1 study shows after a 25 year follow up that 52% re-offended and another showed that after 25 years 75% re-offended). And that's just for convictions. Child molestation, in general, is a very under reported crime. Another study showed that when sex offenders self-reported their crimes during treatment, only 5% of those were found in official records. Meaning they get away with it very, very often.

Can you link to those studies?
 
Can you link to those studies?
I don't have a link to the individual studies, but here is the site I looked at:

Chapter 5: Adult Sex Offender Recidivism

It talks about all sexual offenders but does break it down by category. There is a lot of differences between the varying studies and some criticisms that the study with the highest rate had a pool of high risk offenders which may have skewed the results.

While the difference between the sexual recidivism rates for child molesters found by Prentky and colleagues (1997) using a 25-year follow-up period (52 percent) and Harris and Hanson (2004) using a 15-year follow-up period (23 percent) is striking, the nature and substantive significance of the difference can be interpreted in fundamentally different ways. One interpretation is that first-time recidivism may occur for some child molesters 20 or more years after criminal justice intervention and that recidivism estimates derived from shorter follow-up periods are likely to underestimate the lifetime risk of child molester reoffending (Doren, 1998. Analyzing data from Prentky and colleagues (1997) and other studies, Doren (1998, p. 105) concluded that the lifetime prevalence of sexual recidivism for extrafamilial child molesters "should be thought of as having a conservative approximation of about 52 percent." An alternative interpretation is that the difference between Prentky and colleagues' 25-year estimate and Harris and Hanson's 15-year estimate is primarily an artifact of sampling — Harris and Hanson's findings are based on a larger, more diverse sample of child molesters, including some serving community sentences — and that the lifetime prevalence of sexual recidivism for child molesters overall is lower than the 52 percent suggested by Doren and based, at least in part, on the findings of Prentky and colleagues. While the rate at which child molesters are likely to sexually recidivate over the life course may be subject to further debate, current empirical evidence suggests that molesters of boys have higher short- and long-term recidivism rates than other types of sex offenders. It is important to keep in mind, however, that both gender-crossover and age-crossover offending are not uncommon and that far more research on the recidivism patterns of crossover offenders is needed (Wilcox et al., 2005; Heil, Ahlmeyer & Simons, 2003; English et al., 2000). 37 Additionally, recidivism is highly variable even within subtypes of sex offenders and the propensity of child molesters and other sex offenders to reoffend can best be understood in the context of both historical — or static — and dynamic risk factors empirically associated with recidivism.
 
I don't have a link to the individual studies, but here is the site I looked at:

Chapter 5: Adult Sex Offender Recidivism

It talks about all sexual offenders but does break it down by category. There is a lot of differences between the varying studies and some criticisms that the study with the highest rate had a pool of high risk offenders which may have skewed the results.

While the difference between the sexual recidivism rates for child molesters found by Prentky and colleagues (1997) using a 25-year follow-up period (52 percent) and Harris and Hanson (2004) using a 15-year follow-up period (23 percent) is striking, the nature and substantive significance of the difference can be interpreted in fundamentally different ways. One interpretation is that first-time recidivism may occur for some child molesters 20 or more years after criminal justice intervention and that recidivism estimates derived from shorter follow-up periods are likely to underestimate the lifetime risk of child molester reoffending (Doren, 1998. Analyzing data from Prentky and colleagues (1997) and other studies, Doren (1998, p. 105) concluded that the lifetime prevalence of sexual recidivism for extrafamilial child molesters "should be thought of as having a conservative approximation of about 52 percent." An alternative interpretation is that the difference between Prentky and colleagues' 25-year estimate and Harris and Hanson's 15-year estimate is primarily an artifact of sampling — Harris and Hanson's findings are based on a larger, more diverse sample of child molesters, including some serving community sentences — and that the lifetime prevalence of sexual recidivism for child molesters overall is lower than the 52 percent suggested by Doren and based, at least in part, on the findings of Prentky and colleagues. While the rate at which child molesters are likely to sexually recidivate over the life course may be subject to further debate, current empirical evidence suggests that molesters of boys have higher short- and long-term recidivism rates than other types of sex offenders. It is important to keep in mind, however, that both gender-crossover and age-crossover offending are not uncommon and that far more research on the recidivism patterns of crossover offenders is needed (Wilcox et al., 2005; Heil, Ahlmeyer & Simons, 2003; English et al., 2000). 37 Additionally, recidivism is highly variable even within subtypes of sex offenders and the propensity of child molesters and other sex offenders to reoffend can best be understood in the context of both historical — or static — and dynamic risk factors empirically associated with recidivism.

Interesting. It definitely supports the argument for some sort of Coalinga type post-prison treatment for pedos until either they die of the psychiatrists deem them to be safe to release.
 
Someone posted a link to the forms in a different thread but I thought a screenshot would be a little easier for some people who might be curious as to what exactly this application was that Jon filled out.

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Someone posted a link to the forms in a different thread but I thought a screenshot would be a little easier for some people who might be curious as to what exactly this application was that Jon filled out.

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Is it me or does it look like there's no way this form could lead to '7 charges' for Donald?

Here's the photo

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Here's the form
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We can see from the Yaniv screenshot that boxes to "To return items..." are unchecked. That leaves

☐ To revoke a co-habitant or associate order [Sec. 117.012]
☐ To replace Form 11.1 Undertaking Given to a Peace Officer/Officer in Charge [Sec.499(3), 503(2.2)]
☐ To vary an Undertaking Given to a Justice or a Judge or a Recognizance of Bail [Sec. 515.1]
☐ To consider an order for the taking of bodily substances for forensic DNA analysis [Sec.487.053(2)]
☐ To view or copy restricted documents or exhibits
☐ Other

I bet he checked Other and then ranted about how Donald was being mean to him and he wanted a Peace Bond or some other sort of complaint. Which the police have already said they won't grant.

As usual, Yaniv is trolling Donald in the hope he overreacts in a way that would allow Yaniv to file a complaint that will stick.

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It turns out there's a better image where you can see the bottom of the form

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He's ticked 'other' and wants to 'issue process on a private individual' with the reasons 'Provide evidence'.

No idea if this is even the correct form to do that. And even if it is it's probably just going to end up on file somewhere - the police have large files on both Donald and Yaniv at this point and either they or whoever does prosecutions in Canada show no great hurry to turn those into charges.

@yesthatanna pointed out these are not charges

https://archive.li/i7Fcl

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Bonus @beeble shows up to defend Yaniv in his typically slippery, semantic arguing way while claiming to be a neutral party.

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Bonus @beeble shows up to defend Yaniv in his typically slippery, semantic arguing way while claiming to be a neutral party.

Man this guy is just slobbering all over Jon’s taint. I’ve never seen a grown man want to suck the fart out of a pedophile troon’s asshole so hard before. Okay... maybe Sockness but at least Chris isn’t a pedo.
 
Is it me or does it look like there's no way this form could lead to '7 charges' for Donald?

Here's the photo

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Here's the form
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We can see from the Yaniv screenshot that boxes to "To return items..." are unchecked. That leaves

☐ To revoke a co-habitant or associate order [Sec. 117.012]
☐ To replace Form 11.1 Undertaking Given to a Peace Officer/Officer in Charge [Sec.499(3), 503(2.2)]
☐ To vary an Undertaking Given to a Justice or a Judge or a Recognizance of Bail [Sec. 515.1]
☐ To consider an order for the taking of bodily substances for forensic DNA analysis [Sec.487.053(2)]
☐ To view or copy restricted documents or exhibits
☐ Other

I bet he checked Other and then ranted about how Donald was being mean to him and he wanted a Peace Bond or some other sort of complaint. Which the police have already said they won't grant.

As usual, Yaniv is trolling Donald in the hope he overreacts in a way that would allow Yaniv to file a complaint that will stick.

Edit

It turns out there's a better image where you can see the bottom of the form

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He's ticked 'other' and wants to 'issue process on a private individual' with the reasons 'Provide evidence'.

No idea if this is even the correct form to do that. And even if it is it's probably just going to end up on file somewhere - the police have large files on both Donald and Yaniv at this point and either they or whoever does prosecutions in Canada show no great hurry to turn those into charges.

@yesthatanna pointed out these are not charges

https://archive.li/i7Fcl

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Bonus @beeble shows up to defend Yaniv in his typically slippery, semantic arguing way while claiming to be a neutral party.

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He sounds quite the pompous Missy Know-All. I see he's as popular on Twitter as he is here.
 

Good thing Crown still gets to decide if the charges go through, eh Jonitha?
 

(sigh) these two deserve each other imo. I just wish the orbiters ( that means you, @beeble and @John southern ) would just stay the fuck out of it and let them tard away at each other.

Discuss it here with us, happy to have you both in that regard no matter how autistic we rate your posts, but PLEASE stop touching the sh!t. It sticks to you, and it stinks.
 
Meow mixers express disgust at Petch and want to figure out who and what he is. He likes to "heart" insults, and refuses to leave when he's not wanted, just like Yaniv does. What a revolting flock of birds.
 

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