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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/11/22/barack-obama-conservative/

Barack Obama, conservative

The left and the right still misunderstand his politics.

By David Swerdlick
November 22, 2019

The Democrats who want to be president can’t quite figure out how to talk about the most popular figure in their party. Former president Barack Obama casts a long shadow over the 2020 primary campaign: Preserving Obama’s legacy is the heart of former vice president Joe Biden’s pitch to voters — which has allowed his rivals to mark him as complacent. More left-leaning candidates, such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), say the next president needs to do more to push for health-care reforms and combat income inequality — but lately, she’s struggling to sell her proposals. Onetime Obama Cabinet secretary Julián Castro has ripped his former boss’s record on immigration and deportation. Meanwhile, South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg raced to have a reporter correct a story that misquoted him citing “failures of the Obama era.” Sen. Kamala Harris (Calif.) said in Wednesday’s debate that it’s crucial to “rebuild the Obama coalition” because “that’s the last time we won.” Picking and choosing which parts of Obama’s tenure to embrace, and how firmly to embrace them, has become a delicate game in the primary season.

And now Obama himself is working to cool down what he sees as an overheated political climate. In October, at a panel discussion for his foundation, he warned against the pitfalls of “woke” cancel culture, telling a gathering of young activists that “if all you’re doing is casting stones, you’re probably not going to get that far.” This month, at a gathering of influential Democrats, he cautioned the 2020 contenders against pushing too far, too fast on policy: “This is still a country that is less revolutionary than it is interested in improvement.”

That remark helps explain why so many of the candidates’ proposals seem so far to the left of Obama. The former president was skeptical of sweeping change, bullish on markets, sanguine about the use of military force, high on individual responsibility and faithful to a set of old-school personal values. Compare that with proposals from his would-be successors: Medicare-for-all, the Green New Deal, free college, a wealth tax, universal basic income.

Given the political climate, it’s no surprise to see the party’s base clamoring for something dramatic. But the contrast between Obama’s steady approach and the seeming radicalism of his Democratic heirs can’t just be chalked up to changing times. It’s because the former president, going back at least to his 2004 Senate race, hasn’t really occupied the left side of the ideological spectrum. He wasn’t a Republican, obviously: He never professed a desire to starve the federal government, and he opposed the Iraq War, which the GOP overwhelmingly supported. But to the dismay of many on the left, and to the continuing disbelief of many on the right, Obama never dramatically departed from the approach of presidents who came before him.

There’s a simple reason: Barack Obama is a conservative.

Obama’s perspectives don’t line up with every position now seen as right-of-center: He joined the Paris climate accords, he signed the Dodd-Frank financial regulations, and he’s pro-choice. He flip-flopped to supporting same-sex marriage, highlighting the significance of marriage.

But his constant search for consensus, for ways to bring Blue America and Red America together, sometimes led him to policies that used Republican means to achieve more liberal ends. The underlying concept for his signature legislation, the Affordable Care Act, with its individual mandate, was devised by the right-wing Heritage Foundation and first implemented at the state level by Mitt Romney, then the Republican governor of Massachusetts. Obama wanted to protect Americans from the effects of a prolonged recession, so he agreed, in one of his defining votes as a senator, to a bailout of banks — and as president, he prioritized recovery over punishing bankers for their role in the financial crisis. In his first inaugural address, he affirmed the power of the free market “to generate wealth and expand freedom.”

Until the Sandy Hook tragedy in 2012, Obama studiously avoided any push for gun control. Indeed, in his first term, he signed laws that loosened restrictions on bringing firearms to national parks and on Amtrak. Though cast as a “dithering” peacenik who led “from behind,” he stuck with his thesis that the imperative “to end the war in Iraq is to be able to get more troops into Afghanistan,” and he prosecuted a drone war in Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Yemen.

Obama’s approach to politics was marked by a circumspection that went even deeper than policies. To be conservative, as philosopher Michael Oakeshott, a movement hero, once put it, “is to prefer the familiar to the unknown, to prefer the tried to the untried, fact to mystery, the actual to the possible, the limited to the unbounded, the near to the distant, the sufficient to the superabundant, the convenient to the perfect, present laughter to utopian bliss.” The former president channeled the sentiment faithfully when he said recently that “the average American doesn’t think that we have to completely tear down the system and remake it.”

He believes, fundamentally, that the American model works — even if it hasn’t been allowed to work for everyone. In some cases, the government should help expand the American Dream to individuals and communities to whom access has been denied. In others, Americans can achieve the dream if only they have the will to surmount obstacles on their own. His second inaugural address was a thoroughly conservative document, underscoring equality of opportunity as opposed to equality of outcome. Republican former House speaker Newt Gingrich praised it at the time, saying, “Ninety-five percent of the speech I thought was classically American, emphasizing hard work, emphasizing self-reliance, emphasizing doing things together.”

In his first year in office, Obama gave a back-to-school address that Republicans panned in advance as big-brotherism, even though its central idea turned out to be: “At the end of the day, the circumstances of your life — what you look like, where you come from, how much money you have, what you’ve got going on at home — none of that is an excuse for neglecting your homework or having a bad attitude in school.”

He once argued that in certain circumstances, government programs created welfare dependency, saying that “as somebody who worked in low-income neighborhoods, I’ve seen it, where people weren’t encouraged to work, weren’t encouraged to upgrade their skills, were just getting a check, and over time, their motivation started to diminish.”

In remarks commemorating the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, Obama went out of his way to lecture that, after the civil rights era, “what had once been a call for equality of opportunity, the chance for all Americans to work hard and get ahead, was too often framed as a mere desire for government support, as if we had no agency in our own liberation, as if poverty was an excuse for not raising your child, and the bigotry of others was reason to give up on yourself.” You’d never hear that sentiment expressed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), for whom structural inequality explains nearly every American ill.

Obama cast himself as a role model for young black men and repeatedly stressed that not all inequities in American society are attributable to discrimination, racial or otherwise. This posture helped earn him currency with the black electorate (in particular, older black voters), which votes overwhelmingly for Democrats but skews moderate to conservative on several issues.

He embraced respectability politics as a way to signal how conventional it was to have a first family of color: the many Norman Rockwell-worthy photo-ops, such as the 2009 portrait by Annie Leibovitz, a study in wholesome family living; their annual vacations on Martha’s Vineyard, summer haven of the black elite; dialing back his storied “cool,” as when he displayed his stiff dance moves during an appearance on “Ellen,” laying claim to the mantle of the everyman dad. Asked what he thought about Kanye West interrupting Taylor Swift’s 2009 MTV Video Music Awards acceptance speech to shower praise on Beyoncé, Obama offered no mitigating analysis, saying simply, “He’s a jackass.”

Obama called out racism in the criminal justice system. He met with Black Lives Matter activists, and his Justice Department used consent decrees to rein in police departments. For this, right-wing media often portrayed him as a cop-hater; former Milwaukee County sheriff David Clarke, a Fox News fixture, called him “the most anti-cop president I have ever seen.” But the president routinely extolled law enforcement, including at the 2015 convention of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, when he said: “I reject any narrative that seeks to divide police and communities that they serve. I reject a story line that says when it comes to public safety, there’s an ‘us’ and a ‘them.’ ” After George Zimmerman’s acquittal, Obama — who said that “Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago” — defended the system, saying “we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken.”

For most of his presidency, Obama governed with a Republican Congress dedicated to preventing his reelection and thwarting his agenda. Most efforts entailed compromise. Still, he made bargains that the rhetoric of current Democratic candidates would seem to foreclose. In 2010, Obama and Republicans traded a two-year extension of former president George W. Bush’s tax cuts, along with a payroll tax holiday and an extension of unemployment benefits, that paved the way for the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell.” He later agreed to the Budget Control Act of 2011, known as “sequestration,” which brought down year-to-year deficits by slashing federal spending in exchange for GOP votes to raise the debt ceiling.

Obama was a believer in big government, but his views showed many similarities to those of Republican presidents like Theodore Roosevelt, who fought corporate monopolies and later led the Progressive Party; Dwight D. Eisenhower, who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and the Federal Aid Highway Act, creating the interstate highway system; and establishment archetype George H.W. Bush, a veteran of Congress, the United Nations and the CIA who broke his “no new taxes” pledge, rescued savings and loans, and declared an import ban on semiautomatic rifles.

Obama did advance priorities that progressives cheered: He tripled the number of women on the Supreme Court. He announced rules imposing limits on oil and gas emissions and an aggressive plan limiting coal-fired power plant emissions. He supported anti-discrimination protections for LGBT employees and introduced rules that protected some young undocumented immigrants from deportation. (He achieved many of these policies through executive fiat, meaning they could be — or have already been — easily reversed.) But none of these changes revolutionized governance or structurally reordered American life. None of them were meant to.

The difficulty Democratic candidates have in grappling with Obama reflects the dissonance he’s generated for a decade: The center-left adores him, but to the far left, he’s a sellout. He’s being rethought on the center-right, but he remains the bete noire of the far right, which morphed from the (putatively) government-hating tea party wing to a strongman-loving core.

It’s largely due to an enduring misunderstanding of what Obama represented. Notwithstanding the “Change we can believe in” slogan that propelled his rise, his aim was never to turn things upside down. Favoring “the familiar to the unknown,” as Oakeshott wrote, was Obama’s disposition and also his political project: expanding traditional priorities — the familiar American Dream, not a reconceived one — to Americans for whom they had been denied. That meant building, gradually and at times almost reverently, on his predecessors’ foundation.

That has forced Democrats to sort out who they are — and how to fuse Obama’s appeal with an agenda that reaches further than he ever tried, or intended, to go.

END OF ARTICLE

The left is finally throwing Black Jesus under the bus.

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I figured we would have to wait until at least 2022 to watch them go full Whig. But it seems I was a bit too conservative in my estimates. So lets look at the score shall we? Thomas Jefferson unpersoned by the Dems. Andrew Jackson clearly a Nazi. Barrack Obama Reagan'esque ultra Conservative. Is it just me, or ar ethe only Dem Presidents that the Dems still like Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter? Talk about a winning group!



Lets not forget his revolutionary program of the extra judicial drone killing of US Children on Foreign soil.

The Federalists more closely resemble how the DNC operate in my opinion and that's probably why a guy like Alexander Hamilton was decided on for a libtard hip hop musical. Which is hilarious because he married into a slave owning family and seemed to not particularly care.

Roosevelt is probably ground zero for modern Democrats tbh, considering his entire administration was about setting up a public support infrastructure.
 
The Federalists more closely resemble how the DNC operate in my opinion and that's probably why a guy like Alexander Hamilton was decided on for a libtard hip hop musical. Which is hilarious because he married into a slave owning family and seemed to not particularly care.

Roosevelt is probably ground zero for modern Democrats tbh, considering his entire administration was about setting up a public support infrastructure.

Lets be honest with ourselves. Most Modern Democrats think Hamilton was Black and had an excellent singing voice.
 
His behavior towards BLM and the various people who were shown after the fact to have been put down lawfully would suggest otherwise. Michael Brown being a rather infamous one.
This is what Obama said about the aftermath of the Michael Brown shooting:
I know the events of the past few days have prompted strong passions, but as details unfold, I urge everyone in Ferguson, Missouri, and across the country, to remember this young man through reflection and understanding. We should comfort each other and talk with one another in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds.
Literally trying to say to people to calm down and comfort each other. But unfortunately, people don't always listen.
You're ignoring the tone he's taken in his statement on the matter. Much like with Trayvon Martin he acts as if though this was a blameless tragedy, and not the fault of some jumped up hoodrat getting capped for being an exceptional individual around the cops.
You could argue that his statement was damage control to appease his black voters about an authority figure shooting a black kid. Zimmerman wasn't even a cop, he was a neighborhood watch in a dangerous neighborhood. Nobody could even agree if he was white or Hispanic.

You'd think that race relations would improve with a black president. The fact that is even a milestone is amazing.
 
I read this less as them casting him out, and more as pushing the Overton Window further left. If they can claim Obama was a "conservative", that justifies calling a lot of the people who are actually conservative "far-right" as they are wont to do nowadays.



I'd still hesitate to call him "conservative" at all. Further right-leaning than prevailing Dem thought back then, sure. Unless by "conservative" you mean of the neo variety.
Fair point. The question isn't "are they trying to push the overton window" and more "is it working"? If the Washington Post is trying to push Obama as a conservative, why do it now and not later? We have yet to find out who the Democratic nomination is going to. Even with Biden's poor campaign, he is still polling ahead of far left nominees like Warren and Sanders, the latter of which won't be getting the nomination. There's also Buttigieg and Bloomberg as outside shots who are neoliberals. That gives us three neoliberals (Biden, Buttigieg, Bloomberg) and one far left candidate (Warren) that could realistically get the nomination. Even if the neoliberals support woke positions like gun control, they disagree with Warren with how to increase tax since they'll likely find a "smarter" solution than taxing net worth.

If Warren does not get the nomination, the Washington Post will be committing double think. They'll have to rationalize why a "conservative" Democrat like Biden got the nomination if the party is supposed to revolutionize the government in 2020 with the avalanche of far left Democrats flooding Congress. It would destroy the narrative that the Democrats will be a party of change. Readers who buy into this will then ask "why aren't we getting something new?" and experience deja vu to 2016 when the "centrist" candidate Clinton got in over the far left Sanders. That's not even getting into the declining trust in media.

Speaking off, this article (a) came from Tim Pool's video covering the article and I found this notable and relates to what you just said,

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The red line is for the Republicans, the blue is for the Democrats, the white line to the right are UK's Conservative Party, and the white line to the left are UK's Labour Party. The black line in the center is what the NYT Times declares to be the median line.

The media, not just Washington Post, is pushing the narrative that Democrats are merely a "centrist" party and needs to move further left even though that the far left already has big influences on the current Democratic Party and the the Republicans at most are right-of-center. Look at how massive the gap was between the Democrats and Republicans in 2016 and how big it must be now. The push the Democrats have made to the left are so massive that there are candidates questioning (IIRC) if John Bel Edwards, Louisiana's governor, belongs to the Democratic Party. That's why this article is hilarious, because the Democrats are still pretending that they are not the party of conformity when Silicon Valley and the mainstream media are all mostly controlled by them.

Getting back to Obama, while they aren't going after him yet, they are setting the stage to discredit him on their own term. There are already in-fighting within the Democratic Party that is rearing it's ugly acnes with the nominees. I think he knows that the buzzards flying in the sky will eventually eat the dead carcasses of his deteriorating legacy. Which is why he hasn't endorsed Biden yet and why he's remained relatively quiet after leaving office.
 
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You ask the average American who Hoover is and they'll probably stare at you. Eras get figureheads, for better or worse. Who was president during "the 80s"? Reagan, in terms of public exposure after the fact.
"The dam guy?" is probably a response, but I get what you're saying.
 
I think he knows that the buzzards flying in the sky will eventually eat the dead carcasses of his deteriorating legacy. Which is why he hasn't endorsed Biden yet and why he's remained relatively quiet after leaving office.

"Hey Obama. It's me Biden. ... Joe Biden? Your vice president? Your running man? ... Yeah, anyway, you have been ignoring my calls lately and was wondering if you'd endorse me as President with your black, uh, African American base? The transgenders are really eating me alive ... Hello? Hello? DAMN THAT N-WORD!"
 
This is a weak, late attempt by Obama to try and put as much distance between "Muh Legacy" and the wave of insane dangerhairs, troons, and socialists that said "legacy" directly created.
His legacy was more akin to dumping fuel on a fire that was already burning.

Anyways I still find this to be a load of crap, even though the man had some conservative positions doesn't make him outright a conservative, at best a moderate. There are Democrats who are way more conservative than him that go under their purity radar, like Hilary who obviously hates niggers, fags, and troons.
 
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Is calling Obama, the first black biracial president a conservative really a good idea when the Democrats need brown votes so badly?
I look brown but technically could classify as white on the US census count. Either ways, fuck the brown vote. Overrated and useless, plus browns not too much into communism, very hardcore capitalist, it's just democrats pander super hard.

First time with Trump though , have I seen a republican make a serious effort to get the black vote. It's took Trump to do this as Jeb would have ran with I bang hispanic pussy and Rubio is self explanatory.
 
"Hey Obama. It's me Biden. ... Joe Biden? Your vice president? Your running man? ... Yeah, anyway, you have been ignoring my calls lately and was wondering if you'd endorse me as President with your black, uh, African American base? The transgenders are really eating me alive ... Hello? Hello? DAMN THAT N-WORD!"
The fact that Biden’s campaign is floundering as much as it is amazes me. You would think that no one would possess a serious challenge and there would be no questions about him being able to beat Trump hands down. Considering the many advantages that the DNC inherently have, their failures are entirely their doing and warrant neither sympathy nor empathy. They think that mass censorship and importing illegals is enough to mask the shit options we are presented with.
I look brown but technically could classify as white on the US census count. Either ways, fuck the brown vote. Overrated and useless, plus browns not too much into communism, very hardcore capitalist, it's just democrats pander super hard.

First time with Trump though , have I seen a republican make a serious effort to get the black vote. It's took Trump to do this as Jeb would have ran with I bang hispanic pussy and Rubio is self explanatory.
Interestingly enough, if you look at the Black votes in 2016, you’ll notice a disparity between black men and black women. 94% of black women voted for Clinton while 80% of black men votes for her. That’s still a solid voting block, but not iron clad like black women are. I would love to look at black men and women voting patterns for previous elections, but they don’t include it. Still I’m interested why the disparity happened. I am also interested if 1) the disparity closes when Bitch Ass Nigger Abrams gets the Vice President nomination or 2) pointing this out contradicts a DNC narrative that blacks must see Orange Man Bad and nothing else and they scrap the men and women data off of the 2020 election.
 
His legacy was more akin to dumping fuel on a fire that was already burning.

Anyways I still find this to be a load of crap, even though the man had some conservative positions doesn't make him outright a conservative, at best a moderate. There are Democrats who are way more conservative than him that go under their purity radar, like Hilary who obviously hates niggers, fags, and troons.
Yeah, I took a class about how bad white people are before he was sworn in. Shit was already rotting.
 
This is only happening because he recently told woke assholes to quit jockeying for virtue points. Us sane people understood for years that he was a blue dog Democrat, but they never cared until he offended their egos. They didn't care when he expanded the patriot act and eroded our civil rights, they didn't care when he kept war and American imperialism going forever, but now he's to be PNG'd because he told some college kids to grow up.
 
14 years later: AOC is far-right
Lol, only 14 years?

She already supports Uncle Boiney whose supporters are automatically part of the alt right, all she needs to do now is say too many favourable things about Tulsi Gabbard or walk out of step with the impeachment bullshit and the wheels of "YOU HAVE BEEN DECLARED GUILTY OF NAZI WITCHCRAFT!" will start a-turning

Seriously, if she pisses off the establishment again, either for her own dumbassery or for vaguely opposing their dumbassery, she is going to be thrown down the far right russian agent well within a couple years tops.
 
You could argue that his statement was damage control to appease his black voters about an authority figure shooting a black kid. Zimmerman wasn't even a cop, he was a neighborhood watch in a dangerous neighborhood. Nobody could even agree if he was white or Hispanic.

Also Zimmerman had helped organize activists against excessive force issues involving the local PD. Including 2 of the lead investigators of his case
 
I thought he was more like a neoliberal centrist
I read this less as them casting him out, and more as pushing the Overton Window further left. If they can claim Obama was a "conservative", that justifies calling a lot of the people who are actually conservative "far-right" as they are wont to do nowadays.



I'd still hesitate to call him "conservative" at all. Further right-leaning than prevailing Dem thought back then, sure. Unless by "conservative" you mean of the neo variety.
I don't think its correct to call him conservative, but I do think he'd fit into the Republican Party as a "Token centrist" were the timeline just a little bit different. People liked that brain surgeon so why not?
 
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