Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker - Won an Oscar

[iRON-mAn]

It's been confirmed for a Sequel

 

[ZehnBoat]

It's been confirmed for a Sequel

movies based on other characters getting the same treatment might work
but dear god, space them apart so we don't get sick of it
and please keep it simple
don't let this devolve into CGI action fests

 

[trekkor]

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A Joker sequel is reportedly in the works at Warner Bros.

Director Todd Phillips will also be developing at least one DC origin story in the mould of the Clown Prince of Crime's billion-dollar hit.

As revealed by sources close to The Hollywood Reporter , Phillips is in talks to direct the Joker sequel. He would also potentially write the script alongside Scott Silver, who co-wrote the first Joker movie.

But what about Joaquin Phoenix? THR says Warner Bros. has an option to bring him back for a sequel.

Phillips may also be diving further into DC's universe. During an October meeting, he reportedly asked Warner Bros. for the rights to create a suite of origin movies starring DC's comic book characters. He didn't quite get that, but will supposedly be producing at least one origin story.

News of a Joker sequel has been a long time coming, even before the movie's October release.

Todd Phillips exclusively told sister publication Total Film back in August that he was open to doing a potential sequel, saying, "I would do anything with Joaquin, any day of the week. There’s nobody like him. If he was willing to do it, and if people show up to this movie, and Warners came to us and said, ‘You know what? If you guys could think of something…’ Well, I have a feeling that he and I could think of something pretty cool.”

He later said, he had "no plans for a sequel" but, with today's news, it's clear that whoever was pulling the strings had the last laugh: we're getting the Joker sequel we've been clamouring for ever since Arthur made his explosive late-night debut.

Really, nothing's in motion at this point. Joaquin isn't even confirmed and it's more likely imho that they're going to look into making these one-off movies about the other DC villains, which I think would be a much better direction to take. Someone in /tv/ did say if they really want to make a sequel, they should make it about Joker in Arkham and do it in the style of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which might actually be interesting.

 

[Ahriman]

Someone in /tv/ did say if they really want to make a sequel, they should make it about Joker in Arkham and do it in the style of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which might actually be interesting.

Damn good movie. Definitely, I'd go with this.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Oh fuck Ominous, I didn't recognize him. They fucking blend in like little dingle berries.

A refresher course by our very own @damian:

I remember this little shit, he's the faggot that made multiple Spider-Man should be gay article:

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He's one those obnoxious fags that have to gay up everything:

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It's okay bro, you can say fat and brown, we don't judge here:

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He apparently makes his articles mostly to jerk himself off to "alt-right" youtubers discussing them:

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He's a fan of the Krassenstein Brothers, so you know his TDS is particularly high:

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Lukewarm take:

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"I'm gay and I make fans angry, pay me.":

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I initially thought he was dating another man, because he constantly refers to them as his "partner":

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I was surprised to find that his "partner" was actually a woman:

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There's more salt in those tears than there is in a dead sea. Delicious.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

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Really, nothing's in motion at this point. Joaquin isn't even confirmed and it's more likely imho that they're going to look into making these one-off movies about the other DC villains, which I think would be a much better direction to take. Someone in /tv/ did say if they really want to make a sequel, they should make it about Joker in Arkham and do it in the style of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which might actually be interesting.

They cant confirm anything till after the Oscars

 

[BobsSpergers]

I remember leaving the theater dying for a sequel but the more I thought about it the more I realized I did not want a sequel. It'd be like making a sequel to Taxi Driver. Might be an unpopular opinion but I can't stand the idea of Harley with this Joker. You couldn't make her work in this world without completely gutting her character. FFS she was invented for a cartoon. Maybe it's because I've become jaded to Harley but I really can't see her fitting in this version of the Bativerse.

 

[Absolutego]

Making similar supervillain origin stories with a dark tone and small budget = good idea
Making a sequel to this Joker = terrible idea

This will truly be the test to see if Warner Bros has internalized the lessons from the Synder Era or if they're the same studio they've always been.

 

[Sayon]

They shouldn't do another movie with the new Joker no. Now, a movie following another supervillain granted to another director who could maintain the movie's tone in an approriate way for the character yeah.

Lex Luthor's the obvious option if they take nods from works like Lex Luthor: Man of Steel, Smallville, and even the Silver Age Luthor.

 

[JohnLenin]

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Really, nothing's in motion at this point. Joaquin isn't even confirmed and it's more likely imho that they're going to look into making these one-off movies about the other DC villains, which I think would be a much better direction to take. Someone in /tv/ did say if they really want to make a sequel, they should make it about Joker in Arkham and do it in the style of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which might actually be interesting.

I don't think it'll be a direct sequel or that there'll even be one. It's pretty much the same stuff we've been hearing about a joker sequel from Phillips which is literally " yeah I've thought about it" and then saying he doesn't want to. But IF they were I would hope it wouldn't rehash the first movie like most sequels do, either way I have the feeling there might be a little more studio intervention if it's greenlit.

 

[frozenrunner]

Making similar supervillain origin stories with a dark tone and small budget = good idea

Is it? The second this kind of sincere, refreshing movie becomes part of an assembly line process is the second they will start to fail.

And you know the dummies who run these studios would want one for every Batman villain. But it doesn't get bigger than the Joker in the Batman universe. There are other great villains, but none as great as he is. Does anyone really want a dark, depressing Clayface movie? Poison Ivy? Killer Croc? I would love to see more nuanced, adult takes on these characters, sure. But I don't want them to ape this film to do it or create a "Joker formula."

I love this movie, and I really don't want to see it's strengths diluted with tons of bad (or even good!) imitations. (Though I couldn't be happier for Phillips that he's finally broken into dramatic films.)

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Killer Croc?

To be fair, Killer Croc already has a dark depressing backstory.

Long and short of it is he was raised by an alcoholic aunt who abused him. He was also born with a skin condition that made him look reptilian, which caused him to be ostracized from other people. As time goes on, he becomes more animalistic.

Frankly, I think a movie based on Killer Croc would be way more heartbreaking than Joker, since you could make it all about the concept of abuse and what that does to people. Joker is already uncomfortable due to the way it tackles mental illness, but Killer Croc has potential in the way it could show how abuse can essentially damn someone to a life of crime.

 

[Muttnik]

Poison Ivy?

I'd love to see a based Poison Ivy movie in which her sjw leanings, misandry, and overall shitty reclusive mentality is the cause of her own suffering. Ivy is my third-fave Batman Rogue because she's clearly a very unhappy lonely person that I feel for but know that it's 100% her own fault.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

Most everything about this movie has already been said. Just wanted to add imo:
-The film was excellent
-The film was completely unexpected, a personal drama/tragedy focusing on a negative metamorphosis
-Phoenix was excellent. So much screen time. Pushing the limit on how much can be squeezed from a single character.
-Director was excellent. So rich and well done with so little budget. Unexpected from 'The Hangover' director.
-This film deserves at least a nomination (but will never receive one)
-This film gave me the feels, deeply.

Spoiler: spoiler questions/comments, comparison with Breaking Bad

Questions:
Was it real? (lore? canon? hard question to answer about an insane character in a comic-book adaptation). I guess, I'm asking if the veracity of the story is confirmed by anything by the end of the film...
I read that in "The Killing Joke", Joker mentioned that he prefers his background story to be multiple choice (or something like that). Implying the whole film wasn't true.

Why are the SJWs trying to kill this film? The politics is more in line with the left than any other group. Joker pwning the rich asshats in the subway should make them leap to their feet, clutching hammer and sickles. Also, Joker DREAMS of a relationship with an (average) single, black, working-poor mother. What could be more lefty than that? Fuck, there is even a juggalo riot.

Observations:
The clown riots and revolution of the city happening in parallel with Joker's dark metamorphosis was genius. imo - This translates perfectly the contempt and disregard Joker has for his goons. Idealism has no place in a criminal organization run by a lunatic.

This film is the first time I have seen the true nature of an anti-hero as he should be portrayed. There is no "hero's journey" like the one completed by Walter White. In BB, Walter tried to take the path through Hell into Heaven (at first). Later he fell off the path. He attempted a 'hail Mary' pass - throwing a couple 55 gal drums of cash at his future children, while being devoured by the demons he ran through.

Joker was being devoured from minute 2 of the film. Only his (partially chemically induced) inability to accept reality kept the demons from consuming his soul. However, confusion is not heroic nor chaste. His mind clears and we see the darkness rise.
There is a difference in watching a good man kill and die for a cause, and watching a good man's soul die for personal evil.

 

[Absolutego]

Is it? The second this kind of sincere, refreshing movie becomes part of an assembly line process is the second they will start to fail.

And you know the dummies who run these studios would want one for every Batman villain. But it doesn't get bigger than the Joker in the Batman universe. There are other great villains, but none as great as he is. Does anyone really want a dark, depressing Clayface movie? Poison Ivy? Killer Croc? I would love to see more nuanced, adult takes on these characters, sure. But I don't want them to ape this film to do it or create a "Joker formula."

I love this movie, and I really don't want to see it's strengths diluted with tons of bad (or even good!) imitations. (Though I couldn't be happier for Phillips that he's finally broken into dramatic films.)

You make a very strong point, but I have two options available to me in terms of likely lessons taken from a movie that made 15x its budget in pure, shiny profit:

1. A series of movies that are all aping the same basic formula and may or may not have interesting, fresh ideas to bring to that formula with characters like Penguin, Killer Croc, Hush, etc.,
2. A series of movies cheapening the most interesting take on the Joker as a character in film as of yet.

 

[frozenrunner]

To be fair, Killer Croc already has a dark depressing backstory.

Long and short of it is he was raised by an alcoholic aunt who abused him. He was also born with a skin condition that made him look reptilian, which caused him to be ostracized from other people. As time goes on, he becomes more animalistic.

Frankly, I think a movie based on Killer Croc would be way more heartbreaking than Joker, since you could make it all about the concept of abuse and what that does to people. Joker is already uncomfortable due to the way it tackles mental illness, but Killer Croc has potential in the way it could show how abuse can essentially damn someone to a life of crime.

I mentioned the villains I mentioned because I think they would make interesting character studies if written well. Croc's would have tons of potential if they handled it correctly. (The Penguin would be a good choice, too.)

But, again, do we really want a "Joker formula" being unthinking applied to these characters? Joker is a very good film, but it would be a good film without the comic book connections. The identity of the character is almost not the point at all. Making a series of "dark character studies" based on bankable comic book villains has the potential (even the likelyhood, IMO) to devolve into Product ™ instead of a "real movie" (to quote Phillips) that just happens to be a comic book movie.

I just don't think there's a way they pull off a Joker level of quality over a series of films. I'm already nervous over the idea of a sequel, which seems like a bad idea. Phillips had a vision for Joker. Nobody has an artistically meaningful vision for a franchise. (lel Marvel fags cry more.)

I'd love to see a based Poison Ivy movie in which her sjw leanings, misandry, and overall shitty reclusive mentality is the cause of her own suffering. Ivy is my third-fave Batman Rogue because she's clearly a very unhappy lonely person that I feel for but know that it's 100% her own fault.

You make a good point. I don't know as much about Poison Ivy as you do, and that sounds promising. But there's no way in hell Hollywood would let someone make a movie pointing all that out. Not in its current state, anyway.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

I remember leaving the theater dying for a sequel but the more I thought about it the more I realized I did not want a sequel. It'd be like making a sequel to Taxi Driver. Might be an unpopular opinion but I can't stand the idea of Harley with this Joker. You couldn't make her work in this world without completely gutting her character. FFS she was invented for a cartoon. Maybe it's because I've become jaded to Harley but I really can't see her fitting in this version of the Bativerse.

I have a weird fucking feeling they might make harley an africano

 

[BobsSpergers]

I have a weird fucking feeling they might make harley an africano

Oh good lord don't give them any ideas.
But I wouldn't worry too much, it's usually gingers that get turned black.

 

[ditto]

Spoiler: Theory about Arthur's Parentage

I don't understand why everyone things photo is proof that Thomas Wayne is Arthur's father. Just after the Wall St guys are murdered Thomas is on the TV talking about how everyone at Wayne Enterprises is family, and Penny is like.. "You See.. Family!" like she couldn't tell the difference between a caring boss and an intimate relationship. Also the flashback establishes her as crazy.