Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

[Adamska]

what a shitshow, if these recent posts are indicative of anything, is that you guys and ethan deserve each other.

It's hilarious really; they actually do far more in helping EVS avoid having to look at his failures (rewarding cheapskates like me first, focusing more on drama and views on an unstable platform than the more consistent art, and bragging about false statements) by tarding out like this, since it makes the critiques as a whole look less valid by the sheer number of self-destructive screeching tards reeeing at him. If they weren't so hideously autistic and could keep a lid on it and say why there are problems, then maybe people might actually fucking listen to them.

And I see the question of ownership is up again. Jon Del Arroz is trolling Comicsgate for attention this week by wearing a Diversity & Comics skin-suit and allegedly tradmarking that moniker and Comicsgate as his own publishing imprint.

He's just mad that the man he wants to pump and dump inside him (Vox Day) got BTFO'd for trying to turn Comicsgate political rather than keep it a consumer based product. Even with the teenage girl shitfits between creators who need to grow the fuck up, it'd have died faster if that happened. In short, Johnny's that much of a salty faggot.

Is their a chapter titled
>Why I keep making bad decisions marrying ethnic chicks

Zack’s eagerness to answer the call of booty makes the fact he lives the life of an aging homosexual all the more strange.

The reason's simple: Zack likes his women like he likes his chocolate, dark.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Great, now LNC is back in the thread.

Zack’s eagerness to answer the call of booty makes the fact he lives the life of an aging homosexual all the more strange.

I think he's continuing to live like that to keep his living expense's down whilst in the lawsuit, especially since Waid's whole strategy is to drive up costs.

 

[Mr. Potatohead]

Looks like YBZ launched Iron Sights 2 and it's already funding.

IRON SIGHTS: 2 PSYCHOS Graphic Novel

The sequel to 2018's IRON SIGHTS takes the franchise across the border into Mexico! | Check out 'IRON SIGHTS: 2 PSYCHOS Graphic Novel' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

 

[AnOminous]

Mr. Van Sciver seems to have many psychological problems.

And so do you, you're an angry asshole. Why do you openly rape yourself with your very first sentence? You make yourself look like a complete fucking idiot when you do this.

Seriously, what the fuck?

 

[Drar Destrom]

And so do you, you're an angry asshole. Why do you openly rape yourself with your very first sentence? You make yourself look like a complete fucking idiot when you do this.

Seriously, what the fuck?

Saying Ethan Van Sciver has mental problems is a great way to start any conversation. He is a train wreck. I have heard he started filming his rants in his car because he was riding down the road ranting to himself anyway and decided to go ahead and film it to make money off the imbeciles who watch his videos.

His buddy sent him a camera for his car, probably hoping the troubled bastard would stop calling him all the damn time and calling others doing his fat mouthed incessant whining and backstabbing sessions while he's driving down the road.

 

[HonsPonzud]

Looks like YBZ launched Iron Sights 2 and it's already funding.

IRON SIGHTS: 2 PSYCHOS Graphic Novel

The sequel to 2018's IRON SIGHTS takes the franchise across the border into Mexico! | Check out 'IRON SIGHTS: 2 PSYCHOS Graphic Novel' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

Yeah, it's been approximately two weeks Ethan started to suddenly pay attention to more and more Twitter drama concerning Zack while the rest of the year he never brings it to anyone, or pay attention to it, it usually just slides like water on his skin. But suddenly he's getting all outraged and shit on the behalf of Zack a few weeks prior to launching the promotion. ( same tactics as so called "sjw" by the way, selective outrage, outrage on behalf of someone else, choosen timing, etc ) Goes to say he perfectly knows how to shepperd his e-celeb cultish fans and fabricate hype from outrage and platform a bunch of irrelevant idiots insulting Zack for promotion purposes.

You could tell he was already slowly doing the work for the promotion of Iron Sights 2 through nitpicking and trying to find something to connect Zack with some hatred on twitter but there was very very little content, but he found a bunch of usefull idiots for that purpose after all.

These selling techniques became so predictable it's not even funny. I don't know who's the worst tho, the fans enabling him in his egomaniac behavior, or him profiting from it.

Zack is just as culprit as anyone else in that movement, he's culprit by silence, omission, he very well know he still profits from that bullshit and their book wouldn't sell if it wasn't for fake outrage and finding unimportant enemies to continue their "we fight the culture war" bullshit grift narrative when they actually don't even put a dent in the industry anyway.

On pure merit itself, these books wouldn't sell half as much.

I would say it's even worse, most of their disgruntled fans have gone back to the big two from the healthier numbers of sales if we believe what's happening.

 

[huckbeine]

SNIP SNIP

Zack is just as culprit as anyone else in that movement, he's culprit by silence, omission, he very well know he still profits from that bullshit and their book wouldn't sell if it wasn't for fake outrage and finding unimportant enemies to continue their "we fight the culture war" bullshit grift narrative when they actually don't even put a dent in the industry anyway.

On pure merit itself, these books wouldn't sell half as much.

I would say it's even worse, most of their disgruntled fans have gone back to the big two from the healthier numbers of sales if we believe what's happening.

Yeah, I find Zack's character a little dubious for myself. He kept complaining about comics being SJW and shit, but when his fans and viewers recommend to him that he read manga like One Punch Man and My Hero Academia, which is the closest to American superhero comics, he dismisses them. In fact, in his One-Punch Man and My Hero Academia review, he dismissed it as the Japanese doesn't get superhero comics. I was really like "What the fuck he is talking about??"

I guess even I don't really get superhero comics. Cause when I read his Jawbreakers, my mind goes "what the fuck is this shit? Is this the cringe 90s again? Why does this read like a worse Liefield comic??" I guess his idea of super hero comics is really those retarded image and other indie comics because the story reads like one.

 

[elkinbub]

In some ways Richard seems like a nice guy, but at the end of the day he's a spineless enabler of EVSJWCG harassment, a platformer of SJWs, and worst of all: simply a poor leader and tastemaker.

War Campaign harasses Miss Sashi for over a year. Zack employs Sashi for pin-ups but never dares defend her or tell Ethan to call off the dogs. Spineless.

Ethan chased away Nerkish (for dubious reasons that conflict with one another; go ahead and give explanation #352 below...). Zack pretended to be friends with Nerkish but never defended him or tried to smooth things over.

Zack still talks about SJW deflatforming but is mute on EVS & co. chasing away virtually all of the guys who supported the D&C channel early on: Cummings, Ernst, Edwin, The Doktor, #1 Marmaduke Fan, Unranked Chevon, Tim Lim, Nerkish... ALL of those guys helped Zack out early on; Ethan just "randomly" chased ALL of them away. Zack says nothing and actually does videos talking about how "crazy" it is for people to say EVS isn't a nice guy. Total enabler.

Zack's mantra early on was that comic book pros should be hotdog vendors doing what the customers asked of them.
WELP!
-They gave Richard money to buy everything from X-Tinction Agenda, the Fourth World Kirby Omnibus, My Hero Academia, Berserk and other comics. To date he either hasn't reviewed them or gave brief dismissive reviews literally a year or more after he received the money.
-People have asked him to provide a digital option for this comics. He refuses. He says he doesn't like digital comics. Well, fans asked many times for a digital option. Aren't you a simple hotdog vendor? I want onions on my hotdog; whether or not you the hotdog vendor likes onions should be irrelevant. It's a simple request. NOPE he won't do it. (Not enough money to provide a digital option. He couldn't charge $20+ for a file.)
-He noted that many people told him the art in Iron Sights 1 sucked. He's noted this. He heard the feedback. He acknowledges the criticism. Annnnd... NOPE, he's decided to stick with the same artist for IS2.
-On the other hand, people said they really liked Malin's art for Lost Souls. That project made a lot of money, so why doesn't he--? NOPE, he opted to go with cheaper artists on GodKing.

>Zack doesn't do drama anymore!
He doesn't do much drama, but he's still the guy who made a hundred videos about Mags Visaggio. He platformed Mags more than the companies did. He kept these people's names alive and inflated their importance.
The worst example of this was Renfamous, whom CG platformed, used as a villain to drive donations to "own teh libs", etc. And Zack isn't AS MUCH to blame for elevating Renfamous (that was more TUG and EVS, who used her as a bogeyman). But Zack got things going.

Before Zack, who did guys like Cummings and Ernst fight with?
They argued and got into flame wars with guys like Dan Slott and Tom Brevoort--you know, A-list industry people with actual preestablished POWER.
Who did Zack (and then TUG, and then Yellow Flash, etc) get into Twitter wars with? Assistant editors, no-name bargain-bin talent at bottom-tier comics companies. Zack & those who followed him ended up elevating minor-league nobodies. It got to the point were people like "SJWSpider-Man" became a force to be reckoned with.
That's all Zack. That's what he started.
He doesn't do it ANYMORE?
Oh wow how great. FFS.

He's just a terrible leader.

>No one called him a leader!
Well, he acted like it.
The point is, he didn't use his influence wisely.
He let his own side be harassed, he did nothing while in-fighting arose, he recommended books by Mark Waid, and still to this day he wastes time trying to figure out how to look on the bright side of comics by Gail Simone, Mags Visaggio, etc.
He has ZERO to say about the constant parade of bad behavior from EVS. Zack acts like everything is fine and from his channel you'd never know that EVS ever did even one even slightly dubious thing ever. In other words, Zack covers for Ethan the same way CBR covers for SJW/corporate comics.
He generally recommends bad comics just to seem like he's "balanced" as a reviewer.
He's a terrible reviewer.
People only started listening to him because the corporate comics reviewers on the shill sites were dishonest and supported ALL corporate garbage.
Zack supports like 20% of the garbage, and we called that a victory.

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if he's a "good guy", like in his personal life or whatever.
His public output and efforts toward the cause of "better comics" or "more respect for the fans" have fallen flat.
He figured out how to make money out of it, though, so good for him, I guess.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Yeah, I find Zack's character a little dubious for myself. He kept complaining about comics being SJW and shit, but when his fans and viewers recommend to him that he read manga like One Punch Man and My Hero Academia, which is the closest to American superhero comics, he dismisses them. In fact, in his One-Punch Man and My Hero Academia review, he dismissed it as the Japanese doesn't get superhero comics. I was really like "What the fuck he is talking about??"

I guess even I don't really get superhero comics. Cause when I read his Jawbreakers, my mind goes "what the fuck is this shit? Is this the cringe 90s again? Why does this read like a worse Liefield comic??" I guess his idea of super hero comics is really those exceptional image and other indie comics because the story reads like one.

The thing about Zack is, he has absolutely shit taste in pop culture outside comics. I agree with a lot of what he says about comic books, the history and the art and the writing, but I disagree on nearly every single movie he's given a positive review to.

It's actually become a meme on his channel. He used to do movie reviews on his main channel, but such a large number of comments disagreed with him, that he made a second channel for movie/TV reviews to avoid pissing regular viewers off. The main channel only gets his comic book movie/show reviews now, like the Watchmen TV show.

I don't think he has the necessary background to properly review or appreciate sub-cultures that require a different context, such as Japanese manga tropes for One Punch Man. He grew up obsessing over American comics, that's what he knows, and that's what he sticks to. Which is fine; he does well in that area, no one needs to be a generalist-super-nerd-encyclopedia.

 

[elkinbub]

Oh, I forgot to add in the anecdote about how wonderful Zack left and disavowed his own FB group.
He said he had to leave because there was a "crazy stalker".
The "stalker" was a year and a half earlier, though, and it was at a time when Zack was trying to meet fans in person as he traveled around.
He left the group EXACTLY when they started voicing a few complaints about EVS's behavior earlier this year BUT I'M SURE THAT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE.

These selling techniques became so predictable it's not even funny. I don't know who's the worst tho, the fans enabling him in his egomaniac behavior, or him profiting from it.

The fans are worse. They're stupider. They don't deserve their money. For all their flaws, everyone from EVS to Meyer at least have some level of talent or effort that's above pleb-tier "wanting to pay money" for all this. The fans do not deserve their money. I'd rather they give it to Ethan. I'm glad when he takes advantage of them. They deserve it.

The lowest tier would be sending Ethan a superchat.
The tier just barely above that would be wanting to spend $80+ on a few CG comics.
If we could locate the people who sent superchats to say "Variant covers are a Big Two scam!" and then went on to buy variant covers of Cyberfrog and Jawbreakers, then we would find the lowest of the low. They're out there. I'm sure people did do that.

...

It's very difficult for people to admit that they've been scammed or that they've wasted their money on subpar products.
A lot of you guys out there still defending this stuff: It's okay for you to admit that you've been had.
Plenty "anti-CG" guys also spent money on this crap.
I bought some of it.
I was wrong.
I didn't realize how much of an asshole EVS was.
And I didn't think that Zack would end up recommending Big Two trash while turning a blind eye to his "friend" EVS's psychopath behavior.
They're just poor leaders.
Waid will probably win the lawsuit. Not because he should, but because Meyer is incompetent.
...And even after all that, in 2022 Richard will probably end up recommending the next Mark Waid comic ("It's actually GOOD, guys!") while turning a blind eye to War Campaign guys going to jail for actual harassment and stalking.

 

[Southern Man]

Just imagine how much sales Comics Gate books would get if EVS offered his ComicArtist ProBlowJobs with $100.000 orders. Word is he is an amazing cocksucker. The best! The Rambo of cocksuckers!

 

[Rupin]

Yeah, it's been approximately two weeks Ethan started to suddenly pay attention to more and more Twitter drama concerning Zack while the rest of the year he never brings it to anyone, or pay attention to it, it usually just slides like water on his skin. But suddenly he's getting all outraged and shit on the behalf of Zack a few weeks prior to launching the promotion. ( same tactics as so called "sjw" by the way, selective outrage, outrage on behalf of someone else, choosen timing, etc ) Goes to say he perfectly knows how to shepperd his e-celeb cultish fans and fabricate hype from outrage and platform a bunch of irrelevant idiots insulting Zack for promotion purposes.

You could tell he was already slowly doing the work for the promotion of Iron Sights 2 through nitpicking and trying to find something to connect Zack with some hatred on twitter but there was very very little content, but he found a bunch of usefull idiots for that purpose after all.

These selling techniques became so predictable it's not even funny. I don't know who's the worst tho, the fans enabling him in his egomaniac behavior, or him profiting from it.

Zack is just as culprit as anyone else in that movement, he's culprit by silence, omission, he very well know he still profits from that bullshit and their book wouldn't sell if it wasn't for fake outrage and finding unimportant enemies to continue their "we fight the culture war" bullshit grift narrative when they actually don't even put a dent in the industry anyway.

On pure merit itself, these books wouldn't sell half as much.

I would say it's even worse, most of their disgruntled fans have gone back to the big two from the healthier numbers of sales if we believe what's happening.

talk about grasping at straws... you do know that Zach’s campaign has already gotten funded within hours of its launch and he’s already looking to hit 30,000 dollars, right?

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

talk about grasping at straws... you do know that Zach’s campaign has already gotten funded within hours of its launch he’s already looking to hit 30,000 dollars, right?

TBF I don't think EVS and Zach's coattails extend all that far to other comic book creators. Especially Zach's, now that he's absented himself from Twitter and I presume privated his Facebook. And doesn't really do livestreams much, other than occasionally with EVS. And that pretty exclusively for his stuff.

I guess Cecil is going to do something soon and, if so, it will be interesting to see how well he does.

 

[FRAG]

TBF I don't think EVS and Zach's coattails extend all that far to other comic book creators. Especially Zach's, now that he's absented himself from Twitter and I presume privated his Facebook. And doesn't really do livestreams much, other than occasionally with EVS. And that pretty exclusively for his stuff.

I guess Cecil is going to do something soon and, if so, it will be interesting to see how well he does.

If EVS had released his books on time and started working on CyberFrog 2 so that he could have it be delivered before Christmas this year... I think he would have a lot less issues than he has now. Customers would be satisfied and he would be making more money due to him not losing consumer confidence.

 

[Adamska]

If EVS had released his books on time and started working on CyberFrog 2 so that he could have it be delivered before Christmas this year... I think he would have a lot less issues than he has now. Customers would be satisfied and he would be making more money due to him not losing consumer confidence.

Honestly, he should've focused on getting the more expensive gubbins done first. Like don't get me wrong, it's nice I got my frog comic, but given that quite a few people dumped more money on it than I did, I'd understand if you started with them. Especially if you're running late.

 

[FRAG]

Honestly, he should've focused on getting the more expensive gubbins done first. Like don't get me wrong, it's nice I got my frog comic, but given that quite a few people dumped more money on it than I did, I'd understand if you started with them. Especially if you're running late.

If Ethan weren't such an incompetent businessman and a cheapskate, he would have sent the ashcan backers their books with everyone else and included a special note about the Ashcans coming soon. Then, when the Ashcans came in, he should have sent the Ashcans with a signed poster or print or something that showed he understood and appreciated the wait his most loyal backers had to endure.

It might cost a bit more, but that is the cost of being so late.

 

[Wise Man]

Zack, in nearly every video, constantly telling everyone in indie comics to get off of twitter, never engage, speak or respond to SJWs. He is not labeling fellow creators, he's not gate-keeping the movement or any movement.

I don't agree with the idea he is enabling or encouraging this social media harassment/stalking/nonsense going on.

If you tell someone not to do something, and they do it anyway, you aren't in any way responsible for the actions of others. He is not hosting live streams that amount to 3 hour hate-ons. He gives his opinions on entertainment, because he is a professional critic. Criticism is part objective and subjective. Even if you don't agree with him on his personal taste, his objective analysis is still spot on.

Just imagine how much sales Comics Gate books would get if EVS offered his ComicArtist ProBlowJobs with $100.000 orders. Word is he is an amazing cocksucker. The best! The Rambo of cocksuckers!

Judging by the Ribbit coins campaign, $100 is what you'd be paying for $2 fellatio. But it would leave your dick green.

 

[Rupin]

Is the variant cover with ashcans finally coming of Robot Toad? I'm likely giving my copy away to someone as soon as it arrives. I'm tired of waiting for it and have lost all interest at this point.

Why? Like EVS or not, that comic is actually going to be worth money one day.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

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I guess yellow trash is still on the gatekeeping stuff. There's no point in gatekeeping when comicsgate themselves are the problem with late books and infighting every week. He has became what the cg fought against the past 2 years, gatekeepers.

He's now not crediting us for calling mike dsp of CG.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

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I guess yellow trash is still on the gatekeeping stuff. There's no point in gatekeeping when comicsgate themselves are the problem with late books and infighting every week. He has became what the cg fought against the past 2 years, gatekeepers.

He's now not crediting us for calling mike dsp of CG.

I mean Tug is a thief