Death Stranding - Hideous Kojumbo does it again

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DS uses Guerrilla's Decima Engine (The same as Horizon): this is why alot of people believed it was a Sony exclusive

And JFC,the salt is flowing and it's of the greatest quality :story:
 
DS uses Guerrilla's Decima Engine (The same as Horizon): this is why alot of people believed it was a Sony exclusive

And JFC,the salt is flowing and it's of the greatest quality :story:
Remember these are the same people who were getting ready to burn down RockStar for announcing that Red Dead 2 is coming to PC.

Argument boiled down to “How dare you we were loyal to you and these PC scum are going to pirate your game!”
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Even with what I have seen of Death Stranding being a gritty Breath of The Wild with fetuses I am very intrigued even if you spend most of your time walking around. That’s going to be great, but the building up the world with highways and bridges that kind of shit just tickles my autism prostate.
 
Yeah, this is going to be an Epic Exclusive for sure. It was rumored to be coming to PC and its also rumored to be an Epic Exclusive. Remember most of Sony's games on PC have been Epic exclusives and they've worked with them in the past. It also uses Unreal.

Remember, 505 got 10 million for 'Control' for a year. Also, this is hilariously the first question everyone is asking. Its getting a lot harder to do that 'pre-order bait and switch'.

But I'm pretty much 75% sure this will be an Epic Exclusive for some period of time, even if only a month.
This game is already going to sell well because it's been hyped for years and has Kojima's name and style attached. If he can get an amount that makes 'Control' look like a good deal, then it makes sense he will take it. In the event that it is one of these philosophy/concept over gameplay sort of games, then it might help him recoup costs. I also bet you that he might be able to get them to make it exclusive for a short time, maybe not as hilariously short as RDR2, but short enough before it goes to Steam.

I'm getting this thing whether it's on console or otherwise, unless it turns out to be a real shit show. It's probably the last game on a very short list that I have any sort of real interest in this year and probably most of next year as well (minus Cyberpunk).
 
Never understood people getting pissed off when an "exclusive" game ends up going multiplatform. It's been going on forever. Sony fanboys were pissed Gamecube got Twin Snakes, then Gamecube fanboys got pissed Ps2(and eventually every system in existence) got Resident Evil 4. You still get to play the game and others who wouldn't have gotten to enjoy it get to. Grow the fuck up.
 
Do people not know that Sony invested in Epic's Online Storefront? That's why they got Journey. Sony's a shareholder in the whole ordeal.

Sony just doesn't do games and electronics they are a large company that do many facets of behind the scenes stuff.
 
Do people not know that Sony invested in Epic's Online Storefront? That's why they got Journey. Sony's a shareholder in the whole ordeal.

Sony just doesn't do games and electronics they are a large company that do many facets of behind the scenes stuff.
But that flys in the face of honor to your fan boys. I legit think the more ravenous of the fans see this as a grave betrayal to their dedication to their system.
 
Do people not know that Sony invested in Epic's Online Storefront? That's why they got Journey. Sony's a shareholder in the whole ordeal.

Sony just doesn't do games and electronics they are a large company that do many facets of behind the scenes stuff.
I had no idea, huh. I guess that's how they got Heavy Rain too. That seemed like such a goofy exclusive to grab.
 
But that flys in the face of honor to your fan boys. I legit think the more ravenous of the fans see this as a grave betrayal to their dedication to their system.
Sony wouldn't do anything to Sabotage Kojima. He's been their adviser for all the ps4 exclusives and is a big part of the reason why stuff like Horizon, God of War, Spiderman and others have done so well. Ps5 is hitting in 2020 if they do a sequel for Death Stranding and then allocate the first game to the epic store it won't be viewed as eating their own.
 
Never understood people getting pissed off when an "exclusive" game ends up going multiplatform. It's been going on forever. Sony fanboys were pissed Gamecube got Twin Snakes, then Gamecube fanboys got pissed Ps2(and eventually every system in existence) got Resident Evil 4. You still get to play the game and others who wouldn't have gotten to enjoy it get to. Grow the fuck up.

I agree 100%, but I kinda get the Resident Evil 4 one. The Gamecube seems like it's a hell of a lot more beloved today than it was when it was contemporary, now that everyone who grew up with it is old enough to wax nostalgic about it online. Gamecube was kind of a piece of shit in 2002, it didn't launch with a game nearly as strong as Mario 64, and Mario Sunshine got very mixed reactions. For its entire life, I just saw mine as a Smash Bros. Melee machine. RE4 could have inspired more third parties to port to Gamecube, as PS2 was getting so many exclusives, but, nope. Shit, I can't think of a single western M-rated game that got released on Gamecube. Rockstar didn't release anything on there, at a time when GTA was just exploding, and the only MGS game was a remake of 1, while the whole rest of the series could be played on PS2.

And when I see Gamecube nostalgia, two games I often see brought up are The Simpsons: Hit & Run, and Spongebob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom. So, it truly was a kiddie console, and you'd be starved if you wanted M-rated games but had no access to anything else. The RE4 thing was an accidental tease, and made for a decently entertaining story that truly highlighted how weak the Gamecube was in '02:

 
I agree 100%, but I kinda get the Resident Evil 4 one. The Gamecube seems like it's a hell of a lot more beloved today than it was when it was contemporary, now that everyone who grew up with it is old enough to wax nostalgic about it online. Gamecube was kind of a piece of shit in 2002, it didn't launch with a game nearly as strong as Mario 64, and Mario Sunshine got very mixed reactions. For its entire life, I just saw mine as a Smash Bros. Melee machine. RE4 could have inspired more third parties to port to Gamecube, as PS2 was getting so many exclusives, but, nope. Shit, I can't think of a single western M-rated game that got released on Gamecube. Rockstar didn't release anything on there, at a time when GTA was just exploding, and the only MGS game was a remake of 1, while the whole rest of the series could be played on PS2.

And when I see Gamecube nostalgia, two games I often see brought up are The Simpsons: Hit & Run, and Spongebob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom. So, it truly was a kiddie console, and you'd be starved if you wanted M-rated games but had no access to anything else. The RE4 thing was an accidental tease, and made for a decently entertaining story that truly highlighted how weak the Gamecube was in '02:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HbORw5eXsiM
Oh no doubt it was a dick move by Capcom. Forgot they did the same thing with Viewtiful Joe when I made my post. Was just making a general post about exclusives being ported and those were what popped in my head. Maybe not the best examples. They did keep RE0 and the REmake exclusive for the console generation.

Don't want to derail the thread so i'll add i'm excited for Death Stranding. Not too sure what to expect but that's what is intriguing. A lot of games seem to share the same template, and unsurprisingly this has a MGS vibe but seems to have a unique spin to it. At least you don't seem to hide in tall grass waiting for a stealth kill, usually with a bow and arrow on your back. If there is one trope this gen has made me sick of it's that one
 
Never understood people getting pissed off when an "exclusive" game ends up going multiplatform. It's been going on forever. Sony fanboys were pissed Gamecube got Twin Snakes, then Gamecube fanboys got pissed Ps2(and eventually every system in existence) got Resident Evil 4. You still get to play the game and others who wouldn't have gotten to enjoy it get to. Grow the fuck up.

Not to mention it's more or less expected at this point, after Read Dead Redemption and Super Robot Wars, two examples of games that were thought unlikely to be ported on PC a few years ago. Nintendo still get a hold of their big exclusives for now.

That said, I prefer having a hypothetical PC port of the MGS games rather than whatever the fuck is this Death Stranding thing
 
Little more than a week till this comes out. Been rewatching that 50 minutes of gameplay. Some parts of it excite me, strange as it may seem, the meme of a walking simulator and getting from point A to point B by any means necessary does interest me with the weight distribution, balancing, preparing equipment for the journey and whatnot, as well as all the weather effects he seems to have put in.

The combat itself seems more MGSV to me, so I kinda know what to expect there. The BTs and other side/supernatural nonsense is also very interesting to me, be it that WWI scene from the trailer or that we keep hearing about how if you die in a certain way, you come back but the environment is basically nuked. I want to see that happen. and see how that impacts me getting from point A to point B or the world at large.
 
505 games

That made me do a double take. I remember them as a sleazy Italian budget publisher. When it comes to exclusivity being broken the only thing I've been bummed about, as far as I know, was Capcom's Gamecube exclusive. The only reason for that was that I wanted Nintendo to get a boost, Sony/PS2 was at the time way too big, there needs to be competition. If Nintendo failed and focused on their more popular handhelds instead and Microsoft gave up and focused all their energy on making Office increasingly bad then the PS3 might have been just as retarded as Kutaragi wanted it to be.
 
That made me do a double take. I remember them as a sleazy Italian budget publisher. When it comes to exclusivity being broken the only thing I've been bummed about, as far as I know, was Capcom's Gamecube exclusive. The only reason for that was that I wanted Nintendo to get a boost, Sony/PS2 was at the time way too big, there needs to be competition. If Nintendo failed and focused on their more popular handhelds instead and Microsoft gave up and focused all their energy on making Office increasingly bad then the PS3 might have been just as exceptional as Kutaragi wanted it to be.
PS2 was kind of shit hardware-wise too, with the laser having high failure rates, the 8mb memory cards never really coming down in price, and multiplatform games just generally looking better on Xbox and Gamecube. It's a pity they were so dominant, with Xbox being icky and ew in the eyes of the Japanese, and Gamecube being kiddy in the eyes of everyone, along with Nintendo's arrogance with the N64 putting a dent in their reputation.

If Death Stranding came out in the 6th generation, I couldn't see it being anything but a PS2 exclusive, and I probably would have missed it like I did Metal Gear Solid until 4 was already in the $5 bin.
 
PS2 was kind of shit hardware-wise too, with the laser having high failure rates, the 8mb memory cards never really coming down in price, and multiplatform games just generally looking better on Xbox and Gamecube. It's a pity they were so dominant, with Xbox being icky and ew in the eyes of the Japanese, and Gamecube being kiddy in the eyes of everyone, along with Nintendo's arrogance with the N64 putting a dent in their reputation.

If Death Stranding came out in the 6th generation, I couldn't see it being anything but a PS2 exclusive, and I probably would have missed it like I did Metal Gear Solid until 4 was already in the $5 bin.

PS2 had an unusual and unorthodox balance in what it could do, the ports of Silent Hill 2 and Metal Gear Solid 2 were visually inferior to the PS2 version. It had 4 megabytes of memory attached to the rasterizer and that had an -insane- amount of bandwidth for the time, a 2560 bit bus, and it was faster than both the XDR and DDR on PS3. But it was meant as a scratch pad, some people mistook it for something else. Western devs saw it as video memory and the rest as system memory in the beginning. It's an easy mistake to make, 32MB RAM and a 4MB graphics card would seem familiar to PC devs developing launch title in 1999. I think the oddball configuration was beneficial for Japanese devs that were accustomed to non-standardized hardware decisions.

Compare Volitions Summoner to Square's The Bouncer, released within weeks of each other.
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Volition weren't 3d idiots, they released Descent before the PS1 was launched in the west, they just approached it wrong and in a postmortem they admitted as much.

When the 360/PS3 generation arrived the tables were turned. It was PC hardware this time on the graphics side. Western devs had years of experience with that. Keiji Inafune gets a lot of shit, for a good reason, and he got lots of shit for saying that Japanese devs needs to look towards the west and learn. That was when the generations were rolling over, and he meant learn as in learn how they do it in my opinion. That's just what I believe but it is known that from his direction came the development of MT Framework, the Capcom engine still used today. They were then quickly out of the gate on the 360 with Lost Planet and then Dead Rising, competing directly with western devs familiar with that type of GPU, while many other japanese devs were holding off trying to get their bearings.

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Being so dominant meant that Sony spent a ton of money on first and second party titles like Ghosthunter, Primal or Dropship. Few remembers those games and they weren't even bad or had a lousy budget and they had plenty of hype because Sony promoted them. Ironically two of those games came out of what is now a Guerilla studio, the maker of the engine that Death Stranding is running on, so it is sort of relevant.
 
Oh my god I can't wait to see the reviews hit tomorrow, I hope you gentlemen and women are strapped in because we are in for a saltpocalypse. It doesn't even matter which side you are on (the kojima fan side, the Sony fan side, the fuck Sony side, the fuck journos side, the journos are cool side, the pc master race side, really any side, it doesn't matter) we are in for a sperg out of epic proportions. I wish I could say more but I have been too cavalier as it is, just watch this space.
 
Never understood people getting pissed off when an "exclusive" game ends up going multiplatform. It's been going on forever. Sony fanboys were pissed Gamecube got Twin Snakes, then Gamecube fanboys got pissed Ps2(and eventually every system in existence) got Resident Evil 4. You still get to play the game and others who wouldn't have gotten to enjoy it get to. Grow the fuck up.

To be fair, fanboy spergs have always been part of the gaming hobby since time immemorial. They’re essentially those spoiled brats back then who don’t want to share their toys and never really grew up in the years since.

They’re just more whiny now that everyone has a platform to sperg on.
 
Oh my god I can't wait to see the reviews hit tomorrow, I hope you gentlemen and women are strapped in because we are in for a saltpocalypse. It doesn't even matter which side you are on (the kojima fan side, the Sony fan side, the fuck Sony side, the fuck journos side, the journos are cool side, the pc master race side, really any side, it doesn't matter) we are in for a sperg out of epic proportions. I wish I could say more but I have been too cavalier as it is, just watch this space.
Man, i really wanna ask what you mean. Because you're not talking about the exclusivity deal right? We already saw the start of that sperging. But if you're not then im very interested.
 
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