🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Sweet thinks college is the only place he can complete his China Quest. He's only ever had long-distance relationships, but in college at least he got phone sex and a five-minute irl meeting. So he thinks his best shot is to go back and recreate the conditions that got him closest to scoring.

It's a pretty neurodivergent line of reasoning.

His AJM flailing amuses me. He's gone back to his defence of throwing up unrelated objections (minimum wage etc) when he starts getting rustled.
 
What is so great about incadescent light bulbs?
Aside from a CRI of 100 and cheaper initial costs - not much, really. But, like with what the DTV transition did to TV, there were laws enacted that caused sweeping changes in the lighting industry. And we know how Iconoclast feels about change.
 
He liked that incandescent bulbs gave out heat and killed flying insects.

Someone with more intellectual curiosity, or who had to pay electric bills, may have figured out that dedicated heaters and fly-killers were more effective at these respective tasks.

I expect in Sweet's case, nobody told him though...
 
Why is killing flying insects even a thing? It's kind of gross seeing the cooked mangled corpses of unfortunate bugs stuck on the bulb. As for the heat - I don't really notice any heat from incandescent bulbs unless I'm right next to them.

Iconoclast's reasons for preferring incandescent lighting certainly are unique.

Also, he mentions that they were invented in the "Gilded Age". Back then, light bulbs were a lot dimmer for the same amount of power used, and they mainly used carbon filaments. The glass on them would get darkened from carbon vapor as the bulb ran. Tungsten filament light bulbs that we're familiar with weren't invented until after the "Gilded Age" was over. (at least according to Wikipedia)
 
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Gilded Age, not Gilded Era. Wotta newspaperman!

If the real life woman he claims posed as "Ashleigh" was Catholic, her parents must have been converts. All three of her grandparents with obituaries online were buried from Protestant churches.
 
"Okay, why don't you just shut the hell up about that, huh? You keep bringing that one incident up over and over again, even if it has nothing to do with the subject at hand, and I have have had enough of it. One little incident doesn't make a case for autism, you stupid yammering moron. You mentioned once you suffer from depression. How would you like it if I brought it up every chance I got? "Oh, hey, how ya doin', pal? Little down in the dumps today, hm? Life not treating you well? You have yourself a good cry on the bathroom floor? How's that Prozac taste, bub? How's it feel to have to cut your steak with a plastic spoon because Mommy won't let her little Holly-berry have a knife because he might slash his little wristies?" How's that feel, huh, jackass?"

And, once again, demonstrating all the intellectual capacity of a bag of beef jerky, Jon worsens his appearance by trying to insult others. By bringing up Holdek's depression, then making up a hypothetical about Holdek cutting his wrists, he's implying that Holdek's problem would have resulted in a negative action. Using that algebra, Jon is stating that yes, indeed, he has a problem - a grown man getting stuck inside a hospital unable to leave would have been the negative action indicating it - but he doesn't tell us what the problem is. Here's what he states instead:

1. The hospital was virtually abandoned, and "spooky". How this prevented him from finding an exit and leaving is never explained.

2. His family is at fault for not coming to get him despite the late hour. How this prevented him from finding an exit and leaving is never explained.

3. His brother, ASU, his so-called ex, etc., etc., etc. None of this, as you may have guessed, explains what prevented him from finding an exit and leaving.

All of this is simply projecting fault on everyone else but the central figure of the story, the one person who would have been responsible for leaving the hospital to begin with. Add to it a heaping amount of invective and sneering anger, and it becomes obvious that you've hit Jon where it hurts. The way the world is supposed to work is that Jon should be allowed to do whatever he wants, no matter how disrespectful, disruptive, illegal, or stunningly incompetent it may be. You are not allowed to tell him what he's done wrong, or question why he did it, only accept that he did it, and rush to help him. Jon may be helpless as a baby, but our job is to change his diaper, not complain about the smell.

I think he derives a significant amount of self worth from thinking he's better than Chris (:alog:). So suggesting that he has autism is really kind of the ultimate blow, which would explain his explosion of invective. But, see that's just how he perceives it, and not my intention. Like Chris, Jon sees everything as a cartoon-like struggle between heroes and villains:

Dr. Belch said:
When you get done with a story it's so turned around and backwards that by the end everyone who hurt, stole from, lied to, and cheated me sound like absolute heroes and saints for having to put up with me-- the Herald editors, my ex, my former business partner, even my brother, who stole my money and mentally and physically abused me for ten long years. You are sick, disgusting people, and you need to be wiped off the map.
(http://usaspatriot.proboards.com/post/400011)

Of course, I never said any of that. Frankly, I believe Jon about his brother, and although I have my doubts, he might be innocent in the plagiarism deal. How the fuck would I know for sure? This doesn't need explaining to you guys, but, the whole point of bringing up the hospital incident was to draw a parallel to his helplessness in figuring out how to make copies of his newspaper cartoons, and to illustrate a pattern that suggests some sort of cognitive malady, maybe autism. Not being a doctor myself, I suggest he go to an actual one to at least explore that possibility. Here at the forums we throw around "autistic" as an insult, but it's a tongue-in-cheek insult. I'd be surprised if less than 2/3 of our members were on the spectrum, and they throw the term around themselves as kind of a self-effacing, self-aware term. They might say in chat, "Brb, gonna go sperg on Minecraft." And as long as it's not disruptive, people here don't care. (The "autism" rating for posts is neutral, and I think for that reason.) In fact, it's kind of become a prevalent element that bonds us as a community, to get a bit mushy about it. :sighduck::heart-full:

Mental disorder is not a character disorder. If it were, and if I was trying to engage in some battle with Jon about who was less mentally disordered, why would I bring up my depression in the first place?

In fact, I wrote this in that post where I talked about it:
Am I personally happy? If I wasn't, you would use that as a cudgel, instead of an opportunity to help me out, the exact opposite of what I and others have tried to do with you over the last 29 pages?

And, as predicted, Jon did eventually use it as a cudgel. That is a character disorder: not that he may have autism, but that he's trying to hurt me by viciously mocking me for something that's chemically imbalanced in my brain.

The whole point of what I was trying to get at with him, and what I wrote, was that if he has autism and it's hurting his ability to function (find a telephone, collect a few cents for copies, etc.), that's not really shameful. What's shameful is accusing everyone around him of being responsible for these problems without taking any efforts himself to get some treatment. It's not a blame thing. I might tell him over there that I struggle by going to therapy and taking medication and forcing myself to do things I just don't feel like doing a lot of the time because I'm depressed, instead of wallowing around and pointing at everyone else or some kind of "System" for my issues, but I'm doubtful he would get the purpose of such a reveal.

Did anyone read the cartoon Sweet linked to? It was interesting. The cartoon version of evil college conspiracy guy #15 drops a bunch of quotes from Kiwis and elsewhere about how Sweet is basing his view of women on one bad experience, and the response is literally that the guy gets a pie in the face.

There's no devastating counter-argument, just a childish silencing. The guy comes off as right, and Sweet comes off as deeply in denial.

He knows the truth, deep down, but it's so much easier to just shut reality out and retreat to the Hugbox Dimension :(

It's kind of interesting how he's able to occasionally wander into and out of self awareness. That little wrinkle makes him a more interesting LOLcow than the average crazy man.
 
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What is so great about incadescent light bulbs? All they do is use up more energy which increases my electricity bill.
Sweet's aversion to change + Fox News posturing (for an example on the other side of the aisle, it's why so many SJWs think abortion--actually having one, not only the ability to have one--is a good thing).

He liked that incandescent bulbs gave out heat and killed flying insects.

Someone with more intellectual curiosity, or who had to pay electric bills, may have figured out that dedicated heaters and fly-killers were more effective at these respective tasks.

I expect in Sweet's case, nobody told him though...

I think those are probably just reasons he gave in order to justify his beliefs. Confirmation bias is pretty common in many lolcows, and Sweetie is no exception.
 
I would ask for sauce on the "so many SJWs think actually having abortions is excellent in and of itself" thing, but I don't want to see the thread devolve into Spergatory "no u" bullshit. It would be the right thing to do for me because medical reasons, which the legal ability to have one would do nothing to remediate, but the original statement on its face is so weird as to be positively Sweetian -- like the idea that any woman of any age would call some rando for phone sex and resulting "spanking off" instead of just using pr0n or imagination.
 
Has it been established what would be Sweet's eventual plan if he did get back to college? If he's opted out of having a job, does he intend to pursue a degree but not to use it to find a job, or does he just intend to stay in college forever without completing a degree?

I think he just feels that his college experience, with the cartoons on the break room TV, the girls calling him for phone sex, and the sumptuous buffets three times a day, was unfairly and maliciously truncated, so he wants a do-over.
 
I think he just feels that his college experience, with the cartoons on the break room TV, the girls calling him for phone sex, and the sumptuous buffets three times a day, was unfairly and maliciously truncated, so he wants a do-over.

Which itself makes little sense, since ASU was the same place where

1. he was dumped by Ashleigh after an exchange of five sentences,

2. was keyed into his dorm room,

3. he was almost nailed by a falling garbage can,

4. was fired for plagiarism.

Man, those were the days, huh?

EDIT: My mistake, he was "pennied" into his dorm room, not "keyed".
 
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2. was keyed into his dorm room,

3. he was almost nailed by a falling garbage can,

What's this about a falling garbage can? Also, "keyed into"?

he wants a do-over
I think it's also due to his aversion to change. Transitioning to the real world from college can be jarring for anyone, and compared to life after college, college life is kind of sheltered.
 
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What's this about a falling garbage can? Also, "keyed into"?
As far as I can recall, Sweet was performing some variety of celebrity impersonation in front of an apartment building when someone-- no doubt a member of the Herald editorial board-- tried brutally to assassinate him by throwing a trash can down at him. Sweet survived.
 
like the idea that any woman of any age would call some rando for phone sex and resulting "spanking off" instead of just using pr0n or imagination.

To be fair to Sweets (and man, does typing that feel odd)Ashleigh would have to rely on imagination as she was too young to buy pr0n anywhere and the internet in the mid '90s took for god damn ever to even get a single picture to load.
 
Which itself makes little sense, since ASU was the same place where

1. he was dumped by Ashleigh after an exchange of five sentences,

2. was keyed into his dorm room,

3. he was almost nailed by a falling garbage can,

4. was fired for plagiarism.

Man, those were the days, huh?
Sweetie's views on college flip-flop depending on what he wants his audience to think. When he wants them to support his desire to go back, ASU is the promised land, flowing with sumptuous buffets, sexually available town girls, and a worshipful student body who treated him like a god. But when he wants his listeners to fume with him over his treatment there, the college is a den of iniquity whose food made him fat and gassy, the newspaper staff constantly mistreated him, and morally-bankrupt underage harlots were allowed to prey on hapless young men. Whereas most adults have a nuanced view of their life experiences, seeing both the good and bad in them and being able to remember things fondly despite their flaws, Sweet wants to believe that his college days were simultaneously the best and wost time of his life - and he wants everyone else to believe that, too.
 
Which itself makes little sense, since ASU was the same place where

1. he was dumped by Ashleigh after an exchange of five sentences,

2. was keyed into his dorm room,

3. he was almost nailed by a falling garbage can,

4. was fired for plagiarism.

Man, those were the days, huh?

Those were liberal anomalies in an otherwise blissful time spent stuffing his face and touching himself whilst talking on the phone.

As far as I can recall, Sweet was performing some variety of celebrity impersonation in front of an apartment building when someone-- no doubt a member of the Herald editorial board-- tried brutally to assassinate him by throwing a trash can down at him. Sweet survived.

And it was the quality "comedic" rantings of Andrew Dice Clay, no less!

To be fair to Sweets (and man, does typing that feel odd)Ashleigh would have to rely on imagination as she was too young to buy pr0n anywhere and the internet in the mid '90s took for god damn ever to even get a single picture to load.

My friend's dad had pr0n magazines and VHS tapes that we would sneak away back when I was just beginning my teen ages around that time. Was awesome.
 
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What's this about a falling garbage can? Also, "keyed into"?

My mistake, I meant "pennied in". It's a prank where one shoves pennies between a door and the door frame to keep the occupant of the room from opening the door. I had missed what Sweet had written the first time in praise of his ASU days.

Back in my newspaperman days, when I wrote a good column, the readers showed their appreciation with gifts. [...] For my piece on using deposit bottles as currency on campus, I had pennies stuffed into the lock of my door, and I would literally have wealth showered at my feet every time I turned the key and opened it.

Emphasis mine. Apparently, they really didn't want this guy getting out.
 
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