Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

[Mola Ram]

As long as waid keeps paying them they won't force the issue. The only person going down with the ship will be Waid when all is said and done.

True, I forgot these are his lawyers and not his friends. Someone needs to clue him in on how egregious his behavior was, but I doubt anyone he's friends with would get that.

 

[Kosher Dill]

New joint filing. It's a proposed scheduling order by both parties.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.971752/gov.uscourts.txwd.971752.45.0.pdf
The timeline going forward if it is accepted:

I'm wondering how this interacts with Waid's rope-a-dope strategy though. The entire point is to bankrupt Meyer before the case ever gets a hearing on the merits. Setting actual fixed dates seems like an admission that this won't happen.
Can Waid increase the "burn rate" of what he's doing right now with the jurisdiction fight perhaps? I notice that he explicitly reserves the right to keep fighting that.

 

[Jub-Jub]

I'm wondering how this interacts with Waid's rope-a-dope strategy though. The entire point is to bankrupt Meyer before the case ever gets a hearing on the merits. Setting actual fixed dates seems like an admission that this won't happen.
Can Waid increase the "burn rate" of what he's doing right now with the jurisdiction fight perhaps? I notice that he explicitly reserves the right to keep fighting that.

Waid's going to fight as hard as possible before any trial as his goose is cooked if it gets to that point.

The problem with the rope-a-dope is that it'll have to deplete Meyers cash reserves before his own. Google says he's worth $4m, but it's notoriously unreliable. From what we've seen it looks like Waid has a bunch of his net worth tied up in items that are hard to liquidate (house and nerd collectibles) and he might not be able to wait for best offers if it gets to that point. Waid has a steady job, but I'm not sure if Marvel is putting him on anything that could pay highest rates. His current book at issue #2 sold less copies at $4 to stores than YBZ's $20 book to customers. Waid lives in a more expensive area and likely has high living expenses, YBZ is rooming with his army mate and is notoriously cheap due to prior poverty. YBZ does have child support but was able to show he was in ahead of payments before(?) any of the IGG books were being sold. In the last year and change YBZ has made ~500k+ profit* from his IGG and has ~50k more in the GFM compared to Waid. Waid's star is fading while Meyer's is rising so IMO it's not a good strategy.

*YBZ showed ~850k sales in a recent video. I'll put 500k as a lowball estimate as this assumes he massively fucked up and overpaid for everything. My guess is that he is somewhere in the 650-700k profit range.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Waid's going to fight as hard as possible before any trial as his goose is cooked if it gets to that point.

Right, that's why I'm surprised that he's even planning for the possibility of a trial. He might as well be scheduling his own execution. Unless this is all part of some wannabe 5D chess move on his part, it just doesn't make sense.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Right, that's why I'm surprised that he's even planning for the possibility of a trial. He might as well be scheduling his own execution. Unless this is all part of some wannabe 5D chess move on his part, it just doesn't make sense.

Discovery is where things will get interesting.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Right, that's why I'm surprised that he's even planning for the possibility of a trial. He might as well be scheduling his own execution. Unless this is all part of some wannabe 5D chess move on his part, it just doesn't make sense.

It may be an admission on his part that he cant win the money arms race and at this point it's better to just get on with it and hope for the best.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I'm wondering how this interacts with Waid's rope-a-dope strategy though. The entire point is to bankrupt Meyer before the case ever gets a hearing on the merits. Setting actual fixed dates seems like an admission that this won't happen.
Can Waid increase the "burn rate" of what he's doing right now with the jurisdiction fight perhaps? I notice that he explicitly reserves the right to keep fighting that.

He should hire the Kick vic attys

they seem to be doing a good job of that

Discovery is where things will get interesting.

So Fake Holiday works for an Astroturf company

after Fake Holiday started to work for HUMANOIDS a Astroturf campaign against YBZ happened and false flags.

Which opens Humanoids up for discovery potentially

 

[AnOminous]

I'm wondering how this interacts with Waid's rope-a-dope strategy though. The entire point is to bankrupt Meyer before the case ever gets a hearing on the merits. Setting actual fixed dates seems like an admission that this won't happen.
Can Waid increase the "burn rate" of what he's doing right now with the jurisdiction fight perhaps? I notice that he explicitly reserves the right to keep fighting that.

He can take it up to the Fifth Circuit but at this point, it won't stay the case. It also has about zero chance of success, much as with the current repetitive motion to dismiss that is predicated entirely on arguments already rejected once by the court.

 

[instythot]

Right, that's why I'm surprised that he's even planning for the possibility of a trial. He might as well be scheduling his own execution. Unless this is all part of some wannabe 5D chess move on his part, it just doesn't make sense.

Waid thinks he's outsmarted YBZ by agreeing to terms he's certain will never come to pass.

To paraphrase a notorious lisping fedosexual, "he's not as smart as he thinks he is"

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Waid thinks he's outsmarted YBZ by agreeing to terms he's certain will never come to pass.

To paraphrase a notorious lisping fedosexual, "he's not as smart as he thinks he is"

I just hope in discovery we find out he made outreach to Marvel to promote his TI campaign (*as has been alluded to*)

So YBZ can get discovery on Marvel....if Poppa Disney just doesnt end it there

 

[Imago]

Right, that's why I'm surprised that he's even planning for the possibility of a trial. He might as well be scheduling his own execution. Unless this is all part of some wannabe 5D chess move on his part, it just doesn't make sense.

Who is Wade more likely to listen to: His attorneys or his followers on twitter? They have built up this case so much that Wade's reputation as the internet avenger is on the line here, and besides his toys what else does he have?

I've noticed that twitter is focused on the libel and ignoring the TI. I could see a settlement where the libel claim is dropped in return for a settlement on the TI. This would allow everyone on twitter to claim a 100% total victory and avoids a costly court battle. Meyer gets some cash and a non-disparagement agreement. Wade keeps his toys and avoids a loss. I'm sure that twitter speds like Doyle would welcome a precedent that allows them to libel anyone online with no repercussions.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Meyer cant drop the libel claim. He needs a counter to the bullshit said about him from the court. Either Wade admitting to it or a judge/jury finding it and issuing a ruling against Wade. Winning just on the TI wont send the right message or repair the long term damage to Meyer.

 

[Adamska]

The brainlets at Twitter are tarding on the libel because it's the weaker claim (they fully know Waid is fucked on the TI one) and they're mentally challenged and think dismissing one charge will also take the TI with it. These mongoloids actually think it works like TV, including the "lawyers" that chime in.

 

[mindlessobserver]

What they also dont realize is that it's highly unlikely for a judge to toss it out in pre trial. All the legal and definitional disputes are matters of law and facts that need to be decided by a jury. Meyer has made a clear case he has potentially been defamed. Whether or not the Jury agrees is another matter. But the charge is going to be considered at this point.

 

[damian]

Meyer cant drop the libel claim. He needs a counter to the bullshit said about him from the court. Either Wade admitting to it or a judge/jury finding it and issuing a ruling against Wade. Winning just on the TI wont send the right message or repair the long term damage to Meyer.

I hope they add Waid calling a black guy a "borderline white supremacist" to the filings, I'm genuinely interested in what the judge/magistrate will have to say about it.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I hope they add Waid calling a black guy a "borderline white supremacist" to the filings, I'm genuinely interested in what the judge/magistrate will have to say about it.

JSG needs to show up to testify

 

[mindlessobserver]

JSG needs to show up to testify

Honestly he could. He can claim first hand knowledge to how wade reflexively lies about people who criticize him. Someone should get him and Byrne in contact. An affidavit from JSG would bury the inevitable TCPA.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Honestly he could. He can claim first hand knowledge to how wade reflexively lies about people who criticize him. Someone should get him and Byrne in contact. An affidavit from JSG would bury the inevitable TCPA.

I wonder if Rekieta could hook it up

 

[mindlessobserver]

I wonder if Rekieta could hook it up

Will ping @KEK7go just cuz. You never know.

 

[Jub-Jub]

I hope they add Waid calling a black guy a "borderline white supremacist" to the filings, I'm genuinely interested in what the judge/magistrate will have to say about it.

I want to see the facebook pros planning to assault YBZ at a convention and Waid's 'bring him to me, it'll go really bad if it's the wrong guy' added for more context and how long Waid has held a grudge against Zack.

I wonder if Rekieta could hook it up

YBZ has given the info to his attorney and is able to contact JSG pretty easily. I'm sure Byrne can get into contact.