Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

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You've never received an independent self-published comic from Ethan, because he's never made one.
I know a lot about original art. I'll power level just for you. I've purchased art from Ethan. It hangs in a beautiful handmade frame on my wall. It's cool as shit.
You should get last pick of the page you want and I hope it's a picture of latenightcomics behind a pizza place with cyberfrog giving the OK symbol, cocksucker.
 
I know a lot about original art. I'll power level just for you. I've purchased art from Ethan. It hangs in a beautiful handmade frame on my wall. It's cool as shit.
You should get last pick of the page you want and I hope it's a picture of latenightcomics behind a pizza place with cyberfrog giving the OK symbol, cocksucker.


So you're still in love with him even after the breakup. I guess you have more personal feelings about Ethan than I do, so you win. Go to him, I won't stand in the way.
 
So you're still in love with him even after the breakup. I guess you have more personal feelings about Ethan than I do, so you win. Go to him, I won't stand in the way.
Because I respect his ability? He is an artistic master and it doesn't matter to me that he drew it. It's a beautiful work of art and you're just a jealous bitch.
Intelligent people pay Ethan for things they want. I promise you most cyberfrog pages will go into someone's fine art collection. The one you get will look like shit and probably have a bunch of razor marks and white powder on it from dealing with your sped behavior.
 
Because I respect his ability? He is an artistic master and it doesn't matter to me that he drew it. It's a beautiful work of art and you're just a jealous bitch.
Intelligent people pay Ethan for things they want. I promise you most cyberfrog pages will go into someone's fine art collection. The one you get will look like shit and probably have a bunch of razor marks and white powder on it from dealing with your sped behavior.
He's alright, he's not a cover artist that's for sure. His first vampirella cover is jacked up. Ritter's colors save it. Same thing with the jawbreakers covers. Starting to think his work is filled with mistakes and it's just the colors that save it. He spaces his eyes too far apart so that his characters look like Sid the sloth from ice age.
 
So you're still in love with him even after the breakup. I guess you have more personal feelings about Ethan than I do, so you win. Go to him, I won't stand in the way.

Have you considered taking your complaints about ethan's work ethic and crowdfunding practices to the comments sections of ethan's crowdfunding campaigns, dipshit?

No, you came here because daddy Ethan smiled on someone else and you heard about this site's reputation. You'd probably be on 8chan if it was up hoping to draft a spree shooter into your personal army
 
Everything I've said here is true. All you've said is that I'm a liar, which means everything you've said is wrong. I just registered here today to say my piece about an important Comicsgate situation, and you're using a fake account to make noise. The majority of all the posts on your account are about me, but you didn't just make that account to talk about me. I'm here doing what I'm supposed to be doing, and you're doing something dishonest with hidden motives.

I've already posted a video proving Ethan lied, I've posted real facts and figures, and all you had was lies. You had to make up fake things I didn't say, because you know you're wrong. You're so ashamed of yourself and what you really believe that you won't even say it. You actually think lies are better than the truth about yourself.

And your trolling gave the mods an excuse to remove the inconvenient facts that show what Ethan's been doing. You successfully sucked Ethan off, to completion, so that everybody on the main thread won't find out that Ethan lied.

For the other people here who aren't brainwashed cultists, and are able to actually process information and accept reality, here are a couple of pictures. I've already left work, but these are SOME of what I have lying around.
Had to dig through the endless spergery to find the post but if madlad here was making bank reselling comics why does he have more copies of lonestar than mike miller?
If you were making money on your horde of jawbreakers books you'd be showing paypal receipts instead of book photos.
You're smoking crack assmad about an extremely idiotic decision. I hope you are the worlds biggest fan because that shit isn't selling.
 
Wow, this got really gay.

I was pretty peeved at EVS for a while too, but I cooled down because I only really care about getting my 2 CF copies (not a huge crisis) and his gay twitter drama where he fights with people (in a confusing boomer half-public, half-private way) is annoying, but it can blow over. Someone from NJ being a pushy asshole? Call the police!

@UndeliveredCrowdfundMaste Being a scalper/flipper/re-seller is gay, and no one cares when they get fucked over. Be smarter and pick something to re-sell that doesn't take 4-5 months minimum to come out.

@FROG Just get me the comic, I'm 5% closer to death at this point.
 
Have you considered taking your complaints about ethan's work ethic and crowdfunding practices to the comments sections of ethan's crowdfunding campaigns, dipshit?

No, you came here because daddy Ethan smiled on someone else and you heard about this site's reputation. You'd probably be on 8chan if it was up hoping to draft a spree shooter into your personal army


If you could read, you'd know that Ethan shadowbanned me from his Youtube comments. Then he came here and said "Nobody's complaining" because he deleted all the complaints.

I just came here to enter my facts into a public record that Ethan can't erase. Unfortunately this site doesn't allow an uncensored archive about Comicsgate.
 
If you could read, you'd know that Ethan shadowbanned me from his Youtube comments. Then he came here and said "Nobody's complaining" because he deleted all the complaints.

I just came here to enter my facts into a public record that Ethan can't erase. Unfortunately this site doesn't allow an uncensored archive about Comicsgate.
How do you possibly make any money off that many copies of Lonestar?
No one is censoring you faggot. Everyone can see your posts.
 
If you were making money on your horde of jawbreakers books you'd be showing paypal receipts instead of book photos.
I was wondering when we were going to get back around to the photos. Something is not right.

On my desk, I'm staring at a copy of Jawbreakers. Despite multiple readings, the pages lie flat, the spine has no sign of wear, and it arrived did arrive in shrink-wrap. This is a well executed print.

Look at the three at the front of the stack. The pages are separating, it's clear each one has been handled repeatedly. I'm on a 4K monitor, I can see cracks in the glue on the spine where each book was held open.

Look at the spines, starting at the back. There are abrasions on the top for about 25% of the books. It's clear they have been rubbed up against something, maybe soft wood, silicone or flesh. My guess is they have been going on and off shelves repeatedly.

Look at the last 3 comics in the stack. They are individually shrink wrapped. None of the others are.

Why does someone buy 35 copies of a book, remove the shrink-wrap from all but 3, and handle more than a single copy? And what does that have to do with shaking down Ethan right before the release of Cyberfrog?

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I was wondering when we were going to get back around to the photos. Something is not right.

On my desk, I'm staring at a copy of Jawbreakers. Despite multiple readings, the pages lie flat, the spine has no sign of wear, and it arrived did arrive in shrink-wrap. This is a well executed print.

Look at the three at the front of the stack. The pages are separating, it's clear each one has been handled repeatedly. I'm on a 4K monitor, I can see cracks in the glue on the spine where each book was held open.

Look at the spines, starting at the back. There are abrasions on the top for about 25% of the books. It's clear they have been rubbed up against something, maybe soft wood, silicone or flesh. My guess is they have been going on and off shelves repeatedly.

Look at the last 3 comics in the stack. They are individually shrink wrapped. None of the others are.

Why does someone buy 35 copies of a book, remove the shrink-wrap from all but 3, and handle more than a single copy? And what does that have to do with shaking down Ethan right before the release of Cyberfrog?

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So you don't follow Comicsgate. Thanks for telling us.


P.S.
I already told you what you were going to do, and you did it:

I could post a picture of thousands of dollars worth of Indiegogo comics that I haven't sold yet, but you'd just change your bullshit to some other pointless trash to waste my time.
 
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If you could read, you'd know that Ethan shadowbanned me from his Youtube comments. Then he came here and said "Nobody's complaining" because he deleted all the complaints.

I just came here to enter my facts into a public record that Ethan can't erase. Unfortunately this site doesn't allow an uncensored archive about Comicsgate.

I'd shadowban you too, you're fucking irritating. And do youtube comments even work like that?

You came here for a personal army. If you truly wanted a public record Ethan can't erase, you'd try anywhere that shows up on google results so people who don't already know where to look could find them. Or start whining on twitter to the dimwits as mad at Ethan for liking Trump as you are because he won't draw frogs fast enough for you, who would be more than happy to push an "Ethan is a fraud" angle
 
I'd shadowban you too, you're fucking irritating. And do youtube comments even work like that?

You came here for a personal army. If you truly wanted a public record Ethan can't erase, you'd try anywhere that shows up on google results so people who don't already know where to look could find them. Or start whining on twitter to the dimwits as mad at Ethan for liking Trump as you are because he won't draw frogs fast enough for you, who would be more than happy to push an "Ethan is a fraud" angle


You're projecting. You're here to be part of an army, you think you have an army behind you right now, so you think that's why I'm here too.
 
I listened to 35 minutes of Nick's stream. Pretty much what I expected.
Doug was a clueless boomer.
EVS was a manipulative sociopath with charisma.
Nick just sat there, partially stunned by the overwhelming b.s. that is CG, partially scared of contradicting Saint Ethan.

EVS: "Doug, at least ONCE a WEEK now you attack me!!!"
Meanwhile EVS has thrown daily barbs at Doug for months now, egging his War Campaign mob against him, and only recently pretending to realize that hey maybe this is harassment. But Doug's response is just:
Doug: "I know. I'm sorry."

This is why Christians lose.

The stream was full of so much misinformation and missed opportunities. It would take a 1000-page book to correct the record. It would take a Special Counsel four or five years.

Even things like EVS's penchant for what I would call "b.s. campaign speak", when he sounds like a politician rallying the base.
"CG is for The People, Doug! We need to take on these SJWs! I can't even read Marvel Comics anymore!"
Yew mutherfucken liar, yew. I've heard you on streams admitting that you haven't even read a Marvel comic in over a decade anyway! And here you are pretending to identify with people who suffered through Dan Slott's Spider-Man run. Like, wtf, why even lie about this? To pretend to sympathize with the poor downtrodden comics fans? You clearly don't give a fuck. You can't even be bothered to give them the comic book they paid you money for in any sort of reasonable timeframe.
(Just like you couldn't be bothered to do art commissions for people after they paid you, and they had to hound you for years to finally get the commissions or get their money back.)

You don't read comics, Ethan.
You don't even like comics.
You like grandstanding, being an entertainer and general "ham".
You've always wanted to be a Rush Limbaugh-style talk personality, more than you wanted to be a comic artist.
You like drawing, but you could barely be arsed to draw 50 or so pages in the last year and a half.
In the meantime you did THOUSANDS of hours of streaming about pop culture bullshit and fake internet drama, half of which you instigated yourself just so you'd have something exciting to talk about.

Where is Nick in all this?
Why didn't he ask Ethan about the supposed lawsuit he was planning to lodge against Renfamous and SJWSpider-Man?
Remember that? Remember in April or May or whenever it was, when the drama was a little slow one week, so EVS pretended that he was going to sue people for "mean tweets"?
He got a few streams out of that, got people to forget about how late Cyberfrog was for a little while, and then we never heard about it again.
Just another drop of muddly water in the septic system quicksand/avalanche that is CG.

Holy shit Doug is a sped. Fuck off with your sanctimonious Christfag bullshit.
EVS is more sanctimonious than Doug is. EVS has set himself up as the Pope of Comicsgate, and Comicsgate has even less reality or coherence than Christianity does.

FWIW, and admittedly I haven't listened to a LOT of Doug's videos, but probably 4-5 hours all told--I don't find his Christianity that obtrusive. It's who he is. Edwin Boyette is more of a proselytizer and CG didn't have a problem with him until he dared question EVS and WC.

There are people in CG who hated Doug from the beginning because of his faith. This is not debatable. Cecil in particular hated Doug from the get-go because Doug reminded him of Christians he knew in his youth. Fair enough. But certain CG heavies were against Doug from the start because of his faith. (I'm an atheist, BTW.)
So Doug had a point when he said he was driven out of CG by people who hate Christianity. Doug's confused as fuck generally and is unable to think in abstract terms, but he is generally correct that some in CG persecuted him for his faith. Sorry, but that's just true. That doesn't mean Doug's own faith isn't annoying in and of itself (it kind of is), but he WAS discriminated against for his faith by influential people within CG.

I haven't followed comics gate but I'm watching this and these guys both seem like morons to me. Doug sounds like a stupid old boomer christfag who is willing to let Jesus ruin his movement and friendships. EVS is either a closeted SJW or such a spineless fuck that he's willing to bend to SJW whining so much that it becomes part of his movement.

Both are letting their own dumbass personal beliefs get in the way of them doing business and furthering their movement by trying to brand their movement to those abrasive, divisive beliefs.
Yeah I pretty much agree, except what is this talk of "his movement" in relation to Doug? Doug doesn't have a movement. He doesn't larp as a gangster ("I started this gangsta shit") or a Caesar like EVS does. Doug doesn't care about an imaginary internet clubhouse that doesn't even have any stable principles.
The most you can say against him is that Doug doesn't want to be fake internet friends with people who don't like his personal religious stance. SO WHAT? Who the fuck cares? Is the man not allowed to associate, or not associate, with whomever he wants?

The line of the night (from what I heard) was when Doug compared CG to Scientology. You can try to leave but then they harass you endlessly, try to pull you back in just so they can harass you more, etc.

EVS's contention is that everytime Doug communicates with someone like Nasser who used to be in CG but isn't anymore, then that constitutes Doug plotting against CG and trying to organize a movement against them.
Who the fuck thinks like that? Paranoid control freaks.
If you leave Scientology and talk to someone else who left Scientology, then Scientology higher-ups will say that you are deceitfully organizing against them.
It's like EVS wants to control the fucking communication options of former CG members.
I hope you guys see this!!
If Nasser sends a PM to Doug and Doug types back "lol", EVS would think they are scheming against him and he would start to play the victim and act like what they are doing is "wrong"!

So similar to what happened with Nerkish, when EVS pretended to care about the "anti-semitic" Discord that wasn't even Nerkish's.
EVS: "That Discord is EXTREME! It CAN'T be comicsgate! I mean, I'm not the leader of CG, oh no, but that Discord CAN'T be associated with--"
Nerkish: "I'm not comicsgate."
EVS: "???????"
Nerkish: "Yeah, I'm not comicsgate. Don't call me that. Problem solved."
EVS: ...Nonono, you HAVE to be comicsgate, otherwise how am I going to manipulat--I mean PROTECT you?"
Nerkish: "Get the fuck away from me, all of you." *leaves internet*

This whole gay faggy shit about "Doug betraying the movement!" is just EVS's way of attacking Doug vis-a-vis an imaginary large group of people who doesn't exist.

There is no comicsgate; it isn't a real thing. Over half of the people who have ever been lumped in with CG don't consider themselves CG. More than anything else, the "CG" label has always been a cudgel to use against people to bend them to someone else's will. Whether it's Rich Johnston using the label to smear fans as Nazis, or Mags Visaggio using it to pretend that there's an organized mob against her... or EVS using it as a way to larp as the Hero of the People... or EVS using it as a way to claim Doug has betrayed The People... whatever way, it's FAKE. Whatever use the term "comicsgate" has ever had, it was always more inaccurate than accurate. Everytime everyone used the term CG, it had the effect of warping reality and confusing things further.
We get dummer everytime someone says "comicsgate". We get triple dummberer when EVS uses it.

That's fine, but why force that label on the whole movement?
To control people.

Who the fuck cares if Doug Tennapel is in Comicsgate or not?
Ethan cares because he wants to control him. He's nervous/jealous that Doug could raise so much (more) money without being a part of his hugbox sychophant livestreams.
Ethan was there first, but Doug got bigger than Ethan, so Ethan needed to find a way to control or else destroy Doug.
Why? Because ego.
EVS saying Doug "isn't comicsgate" may as well be Mitt Romney saying that Trump isn't a "TRUE conservative". A fake clown using a fake compromised term to try to control someone. The term is used so that the naive masses who don't know any better are manipulated disingenuously. The only people who buy into it are those who don't really do much investigating and just assume that "conservative" (or in this case "comicsgate") is even a coherent term. It isn't. It never was. It's a fake term that some people react to, one way or the other, like Pavlov dogs.

Why does Ethan care so much he spent literally hours promoting him? I spent literally hours doing stuff I regret too. I don't tell all my faggot fans about it.
People forget that Doug brought some level of prestige to the "the movement" as well. I remember way, way back when Ethan talked about how he was in talks with the creator of Earthworm Jim to be a part of things. People liked that. They were impressed to some modest extent. It wasn't just this one-way street of Saint Ethan selflessly helping loser Doug.
You know, if you Google "Doug Tennapel Kickstarter" you will see that the guy did have very successful crowdfunding campaigns as far back as 2012 and 2013. He raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for himself, long before Ethan's "help". I don't know why Doug himself doesn't talk about this; maybe he's too dumb or too old and he forgot.
I'm sure being on Ethan's livestreams helped Doug get his name out there to certain consumers again, but that's all.

It's not that Doug abandoned his customers, he abandoned Ethan and Ethan's minions. Big difference. Ethan wants to confuse this in people's minds.
Doug isn't smart enough to piece this out, because he's stuck with using the flawed terminology as well, so he says he "left comicsgate", when really there's nothing to really leave and most of the customers stayed with him. He left Ethan more than he left comicsgate. Again, comicsgate doesn't even really exist.

What Doug doesn't seem to realize is that Mike saying something corny like "PRIDE IS A SIN" is just SJW rhetoric back when it was the right trying to be the moral puritans.
That's true, but things like that are miles above the heads of CG. The level of discourse is so lowbrow, these people can't figure anything out. They can't even figure out basic chronology or cause and effect. Asking them to consider that today's Christians are yesterday's SJWs would be way more than they could process.

It is more that Doug is too autistic to communicate that Comic's Gate is too controversial and risk his license.
Where did this idea come from? Doug didn't leave CG because of his EWJ license. He left because his association with CG bigwigs was getting to be annoying and more trouble than it was worth.

Here's the thing all you guys need to understand:

Comicsgate isn't a real thing.

Everyone from EVS to Twitter warriors pretend it's real for their own egos and interests, but it isn't real. Saying "Doug Tennapel is part of comicsgate" would be meaningless to the EWJ license. Saying that he is "anti-gay" on the other hand, would risk quite a lot and could even get him deplatformed from IndieGoGo.

Doug left CG and then EVS tried to get him slimed as "anti-gay". Who is it that's doing bigger things to risk Doug's money here? Hint: it's not Doug. Even if you think CG is risky, getting slimed as "anti-gay" is a heck of a lot worse, because real people with real power can actually understand what that actually means. There is a reality to being "anti-gay", a dangerous reality for business.

Being "comicsgate" or "not comicsgate" only really matters to one person: Ethan Van Sciver.
No one besides Ethan Van Sciver cares if such-and-such creator "is comicsgate" or not.
Richard Meyer doesn't even bother to say "yes I am comicsgate" or "eh no not really".
No one cares.
"ARE YOU COMICSGATE??? ANSWER THE QUESTION????" is only something Ethan Van Sciver and his goons ask people.
Because it's shorthand for "Do you submit to Ethan Van Sciver's control?"

EVS is really confused and doesn't understand why one is different than the other.
EVS is just playing dumb as usual. During the stream last night he was still playing dumb by saying things like "I guess I should have asked 'Is Doug anti-gay' not 'Is Earthworm Jim anti-gay'?" and "So just for clarification, ARE you anti-gay?"
He was STILL going after Doug this way on the stream. The goal is to get Doug on record in a very tight argument to just say "I am anti-gay". As long as Doug leaves himself wiggle room by just sticking to the basic line of "I'm a Christian, so those aren't my values", he's fine. But EVS is STILL going after him and trying to get him to incriminate himself.

It's Doug (and Nick) who are too dumb and confused to see what EVS is doing. He tried to do it again right under their noses last night and wasn't called out on it.

I think many see Doug as using CG to """grift""" (put huge qualifiers around this) the CG community of thousands of dollars only to turn around and spit in their face.
That's what the relative few CG diehards may think. "CG diehards" meaning the fringe group that still thinks CG is a real thing with anything resembling cohesion. So, basically War Campaign.
The thing about "CG" is, again, that it isn't a real thing. The proof is in that very few people gave a fuck when "Doug left CG", because... why would they? Why would anyone care about someone leaving something that wasn't real? Doug raised more money with EWJ and he wasn't even in CG anymore. The people who Ethan may consider "CG" may not even consider themselves "CG". Or if they would consider themselves "CG", then they evidently don't care about what Doug decides to call himself. Doug himself seems to be more than a little confused about this as well. He did get a lot of backing from people who could be called "CG sympathetic" or whatever. But many of those people were never CG diehards. You have to keep in mind that for most of the last few years, even Richard Meyer never liked or adopted the CG label...

...And yet there again too I remember a stream where Ethan responded to the question of whether or not Meyer was comicsgate by saying "Zack is comicsgate!"
Well at the time, Zack wasn't calling himself comicsgate because he found the term inexact and prickly, like a lot of other people.
But somehow EVS keeps wanting to corral people under his term of control.

Mike spouting stupid shit pushes them closer to getting deplatformed from IGG
Just saying "Pride is a sin" is incredibly tame. When Mike said that, it went virtually unnoticed.
You know who blew that quote up five days later? EVS.
So if EVS was actually concerned about Mike's tweet getting anyone deplatformed, he would not have blown the tweet up publicly like he did.
Do you get that? I hope some of you guys get that.
It's so disgusting.
If EVS was actually concerned, why didn't he talk to Mike privately about it?
If EVS was actually concerned about the damage Mike's tweet could have done, why was EVS the one who went out of his way (five days after the fact) to publicize that tweet as much as possible?
Why did EVS do what he did publicly instead of privately?
He did it to needle Doug and try to get Doug to say something that would get Doug deplatformed.
Mike Miller was just a useful idiot, cannon fodder, and a means to an end.

Marvel is going to make the female Thor movie out of pure ideology. It’s gonna be great. Just great.
I bet the next Thor movie will basically just be a comedy. There will be 1-2 lines of mild cringe and a TON of obnoxious feminist press, but the actual movie will be normie friendly and only push the envelope an eighth of an inch. The director is a goofball, not a humorless Marvel writer whose only idea of comedy is portraying Thor as dwunkie-dwunkie alweyz dwunk on meeed pwecious meeeeeeed for eighty issues in a row and calling that characterization, which is what brotard Jason Aaron does with his Asgardian Homer Simpson brigade. (And Aaron is a better Thor writer than Walt Simonson according to edgelord SJW pinkhair Donnie Cates.)
I'm not paying to see the movie, though. No one should be giving any money to Disney imo.
Just look at Natalie Portman holding the hammer at the press conference: In that one frozen second she portrayed more emotional and personality than the entire run of Jane Foster Thor.

LONG POST I know guys, sorry. I edited it some above to make things more exact.
If you disagree, any of you, please know that I don't think you're a bad person.
I actually think EVS is a pretty good internet host personality, and a better artist than Doug.
But EVS is also a sociopath and there is enough evidence at this point to make that conclusion.
He's okay, though, whatever, I honestly wish him success in the future only because it triggers the libs.
 
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Cecil in particular hated Doug from the get-go because Doug reminded him of Christians he knew in his youth.
I only read half of your post because I don't have all day to read a novel, so forgive me if this was mentioned, but Doug hated Cecil from the beginning. Right from the start Doug was calling Cecil an SJW plant because Cecil is a Democrat. I'm sure that is one of the reasons Cecil didn't like Doug, and that has nothing to do with his religion.
 
You're welcome to offer any example of your own posts being more important than the $840,000 of Comicsgate's money that my posts are about.

I'm here because Ethan personally owes me more than $3,000 worth of Comicsgate stuff, that he said he'd send me, that he didn't, that he lied about, that I provided video evidence for in the thread, which Ethan himself showed up in the thread to confirm. But Comicsgate is now "off topic" in the Comicsgate thread.
I don't give a shit about being important and your posts are stupid, ranty, and full of tism, which is why they're offtopic; they aren't important and have more to do with you having a bone to pick with Ethan than Comicsgate in general.
You also seem to think anyone on this forum, of all fucking forums, cares that you lost money. If more people on here knew, more people would join in on this thread to fucking laugh at you for being such a tard. Losing 3k on an obviously shitty gamble then losing said gamble is entirely on you. If you lose your house and car and whatever else because of this, I could not give more of a shit. I'm just going to laugh at you for being this stupid and then coming here to KF to whine and cry, thinking you'd find a likeminded base. Newsflash, KF exists as a forum to mainly laugh at people.

People like you dumbass.
 
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