Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

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I bought more comic books with it, genius.

And Bazooka Joe thanks you for your investment in their fine product.

I buy comics, and then after I sell them I can buy more comics with that money. Ethan hasn't done what he said he would do, so I can't buy more comics yet with the money I invested in Cyberfrog.

No you don't you liar. People who invest in anything minimize effort and maximize return.

You've spent hours griping about a $25 comic book and have been spending time keeping notes about YouTube videos. The opportunity cost for that alone severely cuts into any potential profit.

I could've bought another $2,000 worth of Jawbreakers 2, like I did with the first one, but Ethan is still holding that money. The Jawbreakers campaign won't still be going 15 months from now, like Cyberfrog is, because the Jawbreakers campaign isn't completely fucked. So Ethan made me regret giving him money. I've missed other opportunities from people who keep their word.

If you are a trader, then there's closed auctions in eBay for these and other books. Share yours, show us all these Nasser comics you've been moving on eBay.

$2,000 would have equated to 80 copies of Jawbreakers 2. Let's say it takes you a total of 10 hours to receive, list, pack and mail the copies. After postage, to make minimum wage off that, you would have needed at least an 280% ROI. Unless you are shipping in brown paper bags, in which case you have no right to mouth off about the state of the medium.

Or are you selling them through a brick and mortar store? If so, tell me where it is. I'm sure everyone would want to know where to find the first loud and proud CG storefront.

And you don't see any problems with that at all, because you're whatever you are. Not an honest or worthwhile person to talk to.
Sir, you wound me. I'm going to go curl up in a corner and consider my life choices.

While I'm doing that, do share some more info about your investment activities. Help us all understand how you can be made whole again after this deadline fiasco.
 
Yeah, this got followed up with questions about how the art would be allocated, and the idea that the art would be offered on a first come, first choice basis.
People do need to be able to see the book to make a choice purchase on an investment of $1000, which is how original art is usually sold to buyers in the first place. The other option is to simply hand out the book in order, backer #1 gets page #1, but frankly, this doesn't seem fair either, since that doesn't reward early backers.

If you ARE an original art backer, you're literally the only person who is making this complaint.

If you'd like, you can reach out to me with your order #, and we'll work something out. Maybe a refund! I appreciate your support!
When you're doing an interview with Ethan Ralph you said comics gate is apolitical but then the same interview you claimed that comics gate is Pro-gay and being pro-gay is a political stance.
So is comics gate apolitical or not
 
When you're doing an interview with Ethan Ralph you said comics gate is apolitical but then the same interview you claimed that comics gate is Pro-gay and being pro-gay is a political stance.
So is comics gate apolitical or not

ComicsGate is pro-customer. We don't care if you're gay or straight.

I will absolutely call him that. He is drama whore and hanger -on. Nothing "just a" about him. Comparing him to Zack- two prominent figures of comicsgate, it's clear as day who is a normie with often dated tastes in comics and forever terrible taste in pants and who is a magnet for drama and whoring for it. With how this thread is going since he showed up here it should've been marked way beyond "infected".

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Cute. Doesn't change the fact you're a drama whore.

I'd say "Drama Whore Magnet" is more accurate. Very weird people want my attention, do deep dives into researching my personal life and family, want me to police their behavior, and turn into stalkers when they feel spurned, which is exactly what happened to Zack. He had to sue someone and leave Twitter.

The last thing I want is "drama." I just want to make videos about SJWs fucking shit up in pop culture, draw a big comic annually, and make some money.

The actual Drama Whores had their chance on the Killstream last Thursday. Were you one of the callers?
 
doesn't seem fair either, since that doesn't reward early backers.

But it's fair to mail the cover art to some guy immediately, when earlier backers had already been waiting for 10 months.


If you ARE an original art backer

If you ARE going to send me what I paid for, that would be nice.


you're literally the only person who is making this complaint.


I literally just showed you a clip of your own livestream with someone complaining, and you've already answered someone else in this thread today asking the same question. Are they all me? Maybe I'm a Russian bot, right? Look at your live chat when you read that comment, a few people seemed to agree with him.

But you think it's only me, a kooky weirdo, who would want his $1,000 art that's already finished and ready to mail, 15 months after paying for it. All your other backers are just happy to be allowed to give you a thousand dollars. They don't mind, they're not selfish like me. Is that really what you think?

Do you seriously fucking think I'm the only person who cares about a thousand dollars? Wake up, you're pissing off your biggest supporters. You might try switching gears from shitting on SJWs, and printing their comics first, and deal with your biggest customers a little differently than you deal with trolls.



If you'd like, you can reach out to me with your order #,

Hey sure, I'll give you my name and address so you can fuck up my order or do some other shit. When that guy superchatted you, you were like "Yes I'll send it" but now you're saying the complete opposite. Why should I trust your customer service now? You say one thing and do something else.


and we'll work something out. Maybe a refund!

Right, now you don't even want my money anymore because I voiced legitimate complaints.

Are you offering to refund me with a year's interest? Or will you keep the interest from my money for yourself?

Will you call Zack and get him to send me $1,000 worth of his campaigns that are already closed, that I missed out on because you think it's "weird" to mail what you said you would mail?

A quick glance at my Indiegogo account shows at least $3,000 I sent you last year. Let's round down, instead of 15 months interest we'll just do an even 12 months. At the 29% my credit cards charge me, that's $870 interest on top of the $3,000. And then I'd be dead even, didn't make any profit on that money for over a year. Still not a good deal to me. I've bought and sold a lot of comic books in the past 15 months, and I sell for at least twice what I paid. If you're offering me $6,000, that would be about right. Except I know for a fact that you're a person who doesn't deliver on what you say you'll do.


I appreciate your support!


Talk is cheap. So is mailing a page for $1,000. But spending $1,000 for a page isn't cheap. I appreciated you to the tune of $1,000, but you haven't done anything for me up to this point. Except insult me. So how likely is it that I'll give you another $3,000? What do you think?

If you appreciated your backers, you wouldn't be on your 5th Indiegogo campaign before delivering your first 3. Jeremy at The Quartering said it looks really bad for you to do that. He said it on a livestream with thousands of people watching, and I didn't hear anyone disagree. Maybe I'm Jeremy too, since I'm literally the only one complaining.
 
But it's fair to mail the cover art to some guy immediately, when earlier backers had already been waiting for 10 months.

If you ARE going to send me what I paid for, that would be nice.

I literally just showed you a clip of your own livestream with someone complaining, and you've already answered someone else in this thread today asking the same question. Are they all me? Maybe I'm a Russian bot, right? Look at your live chat when you read that comment, a few people seemed to agree with him.

But you think it's only me, a kooky weirdo, who would want his $1,000 art that's already finished and ready to mail, 15 months after paying for it. All your other backers are just happy to be allowed to give you a thousand dollars. They don't mind, they're not selfish like me. Is that really what you think?

Do you seriously fucking think I'm the only person who cares about a thousand dollars? Wake up, you're pissing off your biggest supporters. You might try switching gears from shitting on SJWs, and printing their comics first, and deal with your biggest customers a little differently than you deal with trolls.

Hey sure, I'll give you my name and address so you can fuck up my order or do some other shit. When that guy superchatted you, you were like "Yes I'll send it" but now you're saying the complete opposite. Why should I trust your customer service now? You say one thing and do something else.

Right, now you don't even want my money anymore because I voiced legitimate complaints.

Are you offering to refund me with a year's interest? Or will you keep the interest from my money for yourself?

Will you call Zack and get him to send me $1,000 worth of his campaigns that are already closed, that I missed out on because you think it's "weird" to mail what you said you would mail?

A quick glance at my Indiegogo account shows at least $3,000 I sent you last year. Let's round down, instead of 15 months interest we'll just do an even 12 months. At the 29% my credit cards charge me, that's $870 interest on top of the $3,000. And then I'd be dead even, didn't make any profit on that money for over a year. Still not a good deal to me. I've bought and sold a lot of comic books in the past 15 months, and I sell for at least twice what I paid. If you're offering me $6,000, that would be about right. Except I know for a fact that you're a person who doesn't deliver on what you say you'll do.

Talk is cheap. So is mailing a page for $1,000. But spending $1,000 for a page isn't cheap. I appreciated you to the tune of $1,000, but you haven't done anything for me up to this point. Except insult me. So how likely is it that I'll give you another $3,000? What do you think?

If you appreciated your backers, you wouldn't be on your 5th Indiegogo campaign before delivering your first 3. Jeremy at The Quartering said it looks really bad for you to do that. He said it on a livestream with thousands of people watching, and I didn't hear anyone disagree. Maybe I'm Jeremy too, since I'm literally the only one complaining.

Point of Personal Privilege!

Can we all please respond to the posts about you being a liar and insulting everyone's intelligence before you continue in this forum?

Guys, can I see some jazz hands?

( I mean - you're claiming you put $3,000 on credit cards with 29% APR expecting to resell the product. You spent it on a class of Indiegogo project that typically takes 12 more months than projected to deliver. And, to remedy this - you post about it publicly instead of going to the creator directly to asking for a refund and limit your damage.

I ABSOLUTELY need to see the return you got off Nasser comics that made justified the wisdom of this action. You are clearly the stupidest person on Earth, I'm just not sure if it's because you actually did that or because you believe other people will accept this story as true. I'm leaning towards the latter.

In any case, you should be asking EVS to take away your credit cards and keep them until you learn to act like a responsible adult. That's the closest anyone could come to making you whole. )
 
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I'd say "Drama Whore Magnet" is more accurate. Very weird people want my attention, do deep dives into researching my personal life and family, want me to police their behavior, and turn into stalkers when they feel spurned, which is exactly what happened to Zack. He had to sue someone and leave Twitter.

The last thing I want is "drama." I just want to make videos about SJWs fucking shit up in pop culture, draw a big comic annually, and make some money.

The actual Drama Whores had their chance on the Killstream last Thursday. Were you one of the callers?

This reply is prime example why you're a Drama Whore. You have just tried to start shit with me by insinuating I took part in one of many gay ops you find yourself in the middle of. This is not being passive magnet. This is you propelling the rotor to create damn magnetic field.

And are you really comparing Waid to literal nobodies of comicsgate? How's that fallacy working for you? Is it about being a victim? Are you the perpetual victim here of literal nobodies? Because I remember Meyer launching and dealing with lawsuit, you don't get to claim that and compare to your situation.

I'm unimpressed. At least make sure your arguments hold water. Or whatevs that phrase goes.
 
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Point of Personal Privilege!

Can we all please respond to the posts about you being a liar and insulting everyone's intelligence before you continue in this forum?

Guys, can I see some jazz hands?

Ethan already responded to the accusations of him lying, I think that's all he's going to say about it.


Edit: since you edited in more bullshit, I'll edit here. I never said I put the $3,000 on credit cards for a year. I said that's what they charge. Personally, I don't think I could get an interest-free loan for $600,000 for a year. Why should Ethan get one from Comicsgate?

But I guess your stupid point is just that I'm a liar and that I didn't really buy that many comic books. I could post a picture of thousands of dollars worth of Indiegogo comics that I haven't sold yet, but you'd just change your bullshit to some other pointless trash to waste my time.
 
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I'd say "Drama Whore Magnet" is more accurate. Very weird people want my attention, do deep dives into researching my personal life and family, want me to police their behavior, and turn into stalkers when they feel spurned, which is exactly what happened to Zack. He had to sue someone and leave Twitter.

The last thing I want is "drama." I just want to make videos about SJWs fucking shit up in pop culture, draw a big comic annually, and make some money.

The actual Drama Whores had their chance on the Killstream last Thursday. Were you one of the callers?

I can't tell if you're disingenuous or have a complete inability for self-reflection. Probably a helping of both. You know what you could do if you didn't want drama? Don't say anything. It's super easy. Someone hurts your feelings? Don't say anything. Someone makes you mad? Don't say anything. Some sort of controversy? Don't say anything. Speak softly and carry a big stick. "Were you one of the callers?" Even in your reply––drama. Instigating a conflict. See a therapist. I'm completely serious. I think you're a guy who really needs to see a therapist.
 
When you're doing an interview with Ethan Ralph you said comics gate is apolitical but then the same interview you claimed that comics gate is Pro-gay and being pro-gay is a political stance.
So is comics gate apolitical or not
I didn't know that being approving of homosexuality was necessarily a political stance.
 
I didn't know that being approving of homosexuality was necessarily a political stance.

Which part didn't you know about?

That heterosexual reproduction between a man and woman is the source of all human life?

Or that it's a minority opinion that the source of most AIDS is "equal" to the source of all human life?

If opinions about homosexuality aren't political, why did Ethan say Mike Miller's opinions about homosexuality don't belong in Comicsgate?
 
Ethan already responded to the accusations of him lying, I think that's all he's going to say about it.
Yeah, glad you agree he's lying and the whole story is made up.

The only question was what part is he lying about, and I think he just proved it.

He's claiming to put $3,000 on credit cards with 29% APR to support a comicsgate campaign. Which is fine, I do stupid things sometimes, it's just that he was expecting to turn them around after he received them for a profit. Even if he received 80 copies of Cyberfrog in May, trying to resell them all at once means he (along with everyone else doing the same) saturated the market. He wouldn't be getting a premium, he'd be struggling to make cover price.

He's claiming he spent that money on Indiegogo projects that typically take 12 or more months to deliver. While I'm not sure when he's claiming he bought into the campaign, he still would have been accumulating interest on his donations for a period of time. That money would have needed to be recouped in the sale, and he was looking to move 80 units at once. Let's assume he could sell each unit for 200% of the price of an individual copy, and that it was 6 months - would that be enough to cover the ~15% interest he would have accumulated in the interim? If postage ran $12.50 on each individual issue, that's only $12.50 per unit profit, or about $1,000 total. And that's probably a best case scenario.

He's claiming Nasser's comic lead him to do this and confirmed, earlier in this same thread, he only made $3 profit from the deal. I have yet to see evidence that Nasser's book has been used for anything but cleaning up after pets and really question the $3 figure. Is there a single eBay listing showing it's been sold to anyone after completion of a campaign? Let's pretend he did make that and it somehow lead him to put this wild, idiotic expense on a credit card with the high-risk rates.

Even assuming all that - he's saying he would have made $3,000 on the deal. Under what possible set of perfect storm circumstances is that possible? Were people going to be paying 476% of the original price for signed Cyberfrog #1s in May immediately after shipping? Was such demand going to exist?

Of course not. He hung himself when he claimed he was spending $35 on individual copies that include shipping. There was a bulk order tier that allowed you to buy individual copies cheaper. It did not have a $10 shipping price, it cost less to ship in bulk. He didn't know about it because he never considered buying into the campaign.

No one is stupid enough to buy individual issues when they could get a better price in bulk. This demonstrates he is a liar and pretending the rest of the forum is as stupid is an insult. It also makes me think you and him are just ordinary SJWs because they are the ones who really have the problems with math and obvious facts.

Listen, we created the Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whore thread for you. Please go there with the rest of your gay ops crew and chimp out. You can lie to each other all you want over there without bothering normal people.
 
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I wanted to laugh at batman losing to vampirella and the hulk and DC killing its most popular character's flagship book, not skip two pages past another gang of faggots or weirdos with alts doing gay ops in the sad hope of becoming relevant or wanting to fuck him.
 
claiming to put $3,000 on credit cards with 29% APR to support a comicsgate campaign
No I didn't, liar. I already corrected that lie, but you're saying it again because you think other people are as stupid as you are and might believe it.

He's claiming he spent that money on Indiegogo projects that typically take 12 or more months to deliver.
Nope, I've never backed anything as late as Cyberfrog. So it's not typical.

He's claiming Nasser's comic lead him to do this and confirmed, earlier in this same thread, he only made $3 profit from the deal.
You're the one who said that, not me. Liar. Are you actually confusing your own lies with things I've said?

I have yet to see evidence that Nasser's book has been used for anything but cleaning up after pets and really question the $3 figure. Is there a single eBay listing showing it's been sold to anyone after completion of a campaign?
Yes, several.

There was a bulk order tier that allowed you to buy individual copies cheaper. It did not have a $10 shipping price, it cost less to ship in bulk. He didn't know about it because he never considered buying into the campaign.
Actually there was a tier for 100 copies for $1500, and only 1 backer bought that. But you didn't know that, because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

No one is stupid enough to buy individual issues when they could get a better price in bulk. This demonstrates he is a liar
I never said I paid $35 for them, I said that was the regular price. Any other stupid shit you want to make up and pretend I said it?

Other than your lies about how I didn't really buy thousands of dollars of Comicsgate comics, do you even have anything to say?
 
Jesus Christ, this thread has become so infected with gay ops that Richard Simmons turned straight after reading it.
 
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