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Real tits are not sexist but looking at them or talking about them is. You're a misogynist if you point out that tits in a low cut top are attracting viewers, and you're a misogynist if you say "fuck this" and stop giving them your views and money even if you don't say anything.


It's the call of the REEEEE. When they revealed Quiet in MGS5 they ree'd, when Kojima explained that outside of story/lore one reason for the design was that they wanted to create a character that cosplayers would want to use. There's probably few that cosplays as Olga with authentic armpit hair, baggy fatigues and a buzzcut, right?

So women did cosplay as Quiet even before the game came out and that was ok even though the detractors main gripe is the implication that those designs and fictional portrayals shapes a reality that either suggests or coerces women to dress that way.
At the same time it's empowering to dress exactly like that, the more authentic the better and the more worthy of praise and adulation is the cosplayer that does it.

That's really what annoys me(and probably most people). If they were all for more modest or ordinary clothing in games as well as cosplay/thottery then that can be respected as a comprehensible position, but right now they're like vegans protesting outside a slaughterhouse before going to a steakhouse for dinner. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
 
I thought Far Cry 5 handled politics very well, there was nothing in the game I found blatantly stupid.
Hurk's old man talking about "Obama-loving libtards" really scared the Gamespot bloggers.
 
So women did cosplay as Quiet even before the game came out and that was ok even though the detractors main gripe is the implication that those designs and fictional portrayals shapes a reality that either suggests or coerces women to dress that way
It's empowered women taking back the design from Kojima's degrading male gaze, clearly.

You still sometimes see snarky faggots on Twitter or whatever bitching about Kojima's lore explanation for Quiet's outfit whenever fanart or something pops up. It's dumb, but it's there, what do you reeeeetards even want? Though I don't remember anybody crying about Yoko Taro's games when he just said "females look like that in my games because I like sexy women :)", so maybe that's a better approach overall.
 
Though I don't remember anybody crying about Yoko Taro's games when he just said "females look like that in my games because I like sexy women :)", so maybe that's a better approach overall.

It's much far less pretentious compared to Kojima's equivalent of explaining a modern "art" piece with a 2deep4u meaning
 
It's the call of the REEEEE. When they revealed Quiet in MGS5 they ree'd, when Kojima explained that outside of story/lore one reason for the design was that they wanted to create a character that cosplayers would want to use. There's probably few that cosplays as Olga with authentic armpit hair, baggy fatigues and a buzzcut, right?

So women did cosplay as Quiet even before the game came out and that was ok even though the detractors main gripe is the implication that those designs and fictional portrayals shapes a reality that either suggests or coerces women to dress that way.
At the same time it's empowering to dress exactly like that, the more authentic the better and the more worthy of praise and adulation is the cosplayer that does it.

That's really what annoys me(and probably most people). If they were all for more modest or ordinary clothing in games as well as cosplay/thottery then that can be respected as a comprehensible position, but right now they're like vegans protesting outside a slaughterhouse before going to a steakhouse for dinner. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
It's like the saying about a tree falling in the forest.

If a woman should be celebrated for cosplaying as Quiet or showing off her titties in a stream, but no one else is allowed to like it or even look without being an evil misogyniserd, then is it really empowering in the first place?
 
Twitch is already making a ton of money with soft-core content and the Twitch mods and admins are protecting the camgirls (there's a ToS rule that allows them to ban the people who complain about them, especially if they refer to them as "camgirls"). It's only a matter of time, since you don't even have to play a video game to be a partner on Twitch.


It reminds me of TheFluffiestBunny (I think she has stopped streaming a couple of years ago). A male streamer exposed her by doing a parody and he got temporary ban for showing his torso.

TheFluffiestBunny Casually Picks up the Dice.mp4

 
You know if they where really left wing political they'd moderate their corporate greed because they'd percieve themselves as a neccisary evil. But they gouge the punters for every penny they can't afford to spend.

Really makes you think.
 
Kaceytron is pretty funny. She plays a character but she's actually retarded herself.
 
At the same time it's empowering to dress exactly like that, the more authentic the better and the more worthy of praise and adulation is the cosplayer that does it.

LOL dressing as a video game whore is "empowering" for thots? Bullshit. They did it even before Kojima invented some Metal Gear slut. The whole empowering shit an obvious lie.
 
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It's funny girls used to complain about objectification a few years ago but I guess twitch thots don't mind it even if most of their audiences are probably incels. I guess they do get insecure when males turn their attentions to fictional 2d girls.
 
It's funny girls used to complain about objectification a few years ago but I guess twitch thots don't mind it even if most of their audiences are probably incels. I guess they do get insecure when males turn their attentions to fictional 2d girls.

Twitch thots still complain about objectification and moralize about men liking stuff. They just focus their attention on drawn and animated characters in games, anime and film.

Mother's Basement (Geoff) 's girlfriend(?) rants about sexualized 2d minors while spreading her ass dressed as them for money. She is just one example.
 
Well, these cunts have been whining about Mixer's rules on 18+ Streams (most of their money comes from children under 18

Twitch should just dump the games and be done with it, because they are obviously a cam whore site. One of their top camwhores said she was '[going to go in the] ethnic aisle in the nigger store'.

Yes, she literally said 'nigger store'. Will the bitch get outrage like Pewdiepie who basically just said nigger like every gamer? No. Nigger store is basically casual racism 101. So lets just drop the pretenses here and that Twitch is for whores.
 
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There's a few arguments they make for why conventionally attractive females must be done away with in media, but there's really only three you need to concern yourself with: The argument that they are somehow offensive because such a physique is "unattainable," that they are bad because they are hypersexualized and this is designed to appeal specifically to straight men, and that it is somehow exploitative because of the portrayal of the character. Let's break down each of these and analyze them closer.

The first one, the argument that such a build is unattainable, is an argument that stems from jealousy. For a moment, put aside characters that are stylized and basically impossible to emulate; focus on characters that are more realistic, and why someone would make an argument like this. The answer, simply put, is because they won't ever put in the level of effort this fictitious character has to look good. They feel they shouldn't have to, and that falls into the same lazy, blunted attitude fostered by so many modern progressives that argue that meritocracy should be abandoned. Because of this, it's safe to assume the most logical conclusion, which is that the first argument is made because they know they can't compete with a fictitious character - so they seek to censor it.

The second one is based on the idea that there is not parity within media; that the sexy characters that appeal to straight men (because Lesbians do not exist, apparently) because it doesn't put men in the same situations. Anyone with even a passing understanding of comics history knows that's a crock. Moreover, This same argument frequently also carries the canard that men cannot be objectified, evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. The argument is that this makes media less inclusive because there are women who are an untapped market. The giant hole in that argument is that media is not monolithic - there is a plurality of markets and genres and such for every taste. Ya boi the Free Market has already proven this one a few thousand times. In this case, they hate the character for standing in the way of them ideologically - so they seek to subvert it.

The third argument is based on the idea that it is somehow exploitative for a character who does not physically exist to be sexually exploited. This argument has never made sense to me, since the argument is essentially that an attractive character somehow is hurting women if she in any way is pleasing to males, and that this somehow enforces male superiority and female subordination (once again, pretending Lesbians do not exist). This argument basically attempts to argue that all attractive women in media are, in essence, pornography, regardless of any other factors, and is basically the argument that Andrea Dworkin has made about porn in general for decades. Because when you want advice on what should and should not be masturbated over, you totally want the input of someone best known for her argument that all heterosexual sex is rape. This argument boils down to the fact that they ultimately don't like it because men do (again, Lesbians don't exist in this worldview, apparently) - and so they seek to eliminate it.

At the core of all three is envy. They can't compete with women who do not physically exist, so they seek to censor them. They cannot claim they have a mandate to do this censorship because there is a market that will happily spend money on it, so they pretend they have one anyway and use this to push their angle, even as it fails over and over. And they do it, specifically, because people enjoy these attractive female characters, and not their shit.

Also the fact that they pretend that women don't project onto such characters as part of power-fantasies and that lesbians don't exist is fucking retarded and shows a level of hubris worthy of the lolcows we cover on this site.
 
But in Far Cry 5 the enemy weren't Trump supporters, some of them were even black, and midwestern hick NPCs were accepting of trannies and/or gays. The woke were very upset because that must mean... their political statement is clearly...
That and the american flag truck with the red ball cap....
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Low key MAGA reference
 
There's a few arguments they make for why conventionally attractive females must be done away with in media, but there's really only three you need to concern yourself with: The argument that they are somehow offensive because such a physique is "unattainable," that they are bad because they are hypersexualized and this is designed to appeal specifically to straight men, and that it is somehow exploitative because of the portrayal of the character. Let's break down each of these and analyze them closer.

The first one, the argument that such a build is unattainable, is an argument that stems from jealousy. For a moment, put aside characters that are stylized and basically impossible to emulate; focus on characters that are more realistic, and why someone would make an argument like this. The answer, simply put, is because they won't ever put in the level of effort this fictitious character has to look good. They feel they shouldn't have to, and that falls into the same lazy, blunted attitude fostered by so many modern progressives that argue that meritocracy should be abandoned. Because of this, it's safe to assume the most logical conclusion, which is that the first argument is made because they know they can't compete with a fictitious character - so they seek to censor it.

The second one is based on the idea that there is not parity within media; that the sexy characters that appeal to straight men (because Lesbians do not exist, apparently) because it doesn't put men in the same situations. Anyone with even a passing understanding of comics history knows that's a crock. Moreover, This same argument frequently also carries the canard that men cannot be objectified, evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. The argument is that this makes media less inclusive because there are women who are an untapped market. The giant hole in that argument is that media is not monolithic - there is a plurality of markets and genres and such for every taste. Ya boi the Free Market has already proven this one a few thousand times. In this case, they hate the character for standing in the way of them ideologically - so they seek to subvert it.

The third argument is based on the idea that it is somehow exploitative for a character who does not physically exist to be sexually exploited. This argument has never made sense to me, since the argument is essentially that an attractive character somehow is hurting women if she in any way is pleasing to males, and that this somehow enforces male superiority and female subordination (once again, pretending Lesbians do not exist). This argument basically attempts to argue that all attractive women in media are, in essence, pornography, regardless of any other factors, and is basically the argument that Andrea Dworkin has made about porn in general for decades. Because when you want advice on what should and should not be masturbated over, you totally want the input of someone best known for her argument that all heterosexual sex is rape. This argument boils down to the fact that they ultimately don't like it because men do (again, Lesbians don't exist in this worldview, apparently) - and so they seek to eliminate it.

At the core of all three is envy. They can't compete with women who do not physically exist, so they seek to censor them. They cannot claim they have a mandate to do this censorship because there is a market that will happily spend money on it, so they pretend they have one anyway and use this to push their angle, even as it fails over and over. And they do it, specifically, because people enjoy these attractive female characters, and not their shit.

Also the fact that they pretend that women don't project onto such characters as part of power-fantasies and that lesbians don't exist is fucking retarded and shows a level of hubris worthy of the lolcows we cover on this site.

It stems from control. The problem is the cognitive dissonance between the cam girls and porn cosplayers which look as sexy or sexier than their counterparts. Just this is basically enough to shutter their entire narrative.

The whole movement to desexualize media is obviously hypocritical as you can see Male objectification is fine but God forbid female. Its driven by troons, ugly women and weak men.

You also see this idiotic push that videogame characters are somehow real and have agency. They don't.

Also, sex will always sell. And if you don't sell it, someone else will. And they will get rich while you go poor.
 
It stems from control. The problem is the cognitive dissonance between the cam girls and porn cosplayers which look as sexy or sexier than their counterparts. Just this is basically enough to shutter their entire narrative.

The whole movement to desexualize media is obviously hypocritical as you can see Male objectification is fine but God forbid female. Its driven by troons, ugly women and weak men.

You also see this idiotic push that videogame characters are somehow real and have agency. They don't.

Also, sex will always sell. And if you don't sell it, someone else will. And they will get rich while you go poor.

If that belief is true than why no one in the industry attempt to prove the rainbow haired Troons wrong? Even Garth Ellis The Boys was made to be less edgy than the actual comic.
 
If that belief is true than why no one in the industry attempt to prove the rainbow haired Troons wrong? Even Garth Ellis The Boys was made to be less edgy than the actual comic.
What do you mean?

There are lots of not-woke games out there.
But if you want industry people to denounce social justice. No one really wants to risk having their career destroyed and spend the rest of their life being smeared by ResetEra crazies. There's nothing to really gain by doing that outside of a few extra sales from the KiA types. There are exceptions like Vavra and Colin Moriarty, but they were targeted first so they have nothing to lose.
 
What do you mean?

There are lots of not-woke games out there.
But if you want industry people to denounce social justice. No one really wants to risk having their career destroyed and spend the rest of their life being smeared by ResetEra crazies. There's nothing to really gain by doing that outside of a few extra sales from the KiA types. There are exceptions like Vavra and Colin Moriarty, but they were targeted first so they have nothing to lose.

Despite The Boys' surprise success they had to smooth out some of the edge from Ennis' comic. But still there isnt any AAA devs who makes an obvious play on nostalgua with tits gore and politically incorrect comments with an unapologetic dev who tells Reset Era to choke on a troon dick
 
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