Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Ihavetinyweewee]

I'll tell you what would have been nicer, George could have just retired and leave Lucasfilm.

It wasn't that simple. Lucas was Lucasfilm. He didnt sell Star Wars for the brands sake. He sold it to save his company(which wasn't producing any films) and his employees.

But nobody wanted Lucasfilm, they wanted Star Wars. Disney, initally, tried to just purchase it specifcally. Lucas said it was all or nothing...

 

[JohnDoe]

It's only 5 billion or so dollars down the drain, the golden franchise tarnished, and thousands of angry fans, no big deal.

Likely more, since they spent 2.8 billion building theme parks nobody wants.

As for the time travel BS, I'd rather just have the 'Luke wakes up next to Mara Jade, it was all a retarded dream" ending. If they put that into theaters and immediately after fired everyone at Lucasfilm and hired well.....they could throw a dartboard at this thread and end up with a better staff. Also Disney might win me back as a fan.

 

[Creep3r]

Then Disney can start changing legends canon.

They've actually started to do that apparently, probably out of desperation. I remember mentioning it in this thread months back and Judge Holden made a crack about Disney getting desperate to appeal to any part of the fanbase after so many bad decisions. This May, Disney released their first piece of Legends media since 2014 (although a few Legends RPG guides were released up until 2016, probably because they thought they wouldn't need it anymore after TLJ) and when it was first announced, it was alongside the announcement of the KOTOR films. Coincidence? I think not. The comic itself was a one-shot comic book continuation of the original Marvel run from the 70s and 80s, probably as a test of sorts to see if there was a market for Legends media that would put them back into the good graces of the fans. Not sure if it worked though as I can't find sales data for it, but reception seems really positive. But before that they were trying to bring back old canon elements but insert them into new canon, like the Ewoks movies, Jaxxon, and many others to mixed results and mixed reception from both new and old fans.

The soft reboot would be interesting. It would effectively wipe out Wendig's nonsense and most of terrible book tie ins. How would that effect Galaxys Edge though? Thats more interesting.

If the park keeps declining as it is, I think that will end up being a mute point. Also remember that this park started being built shortly after TFA was released so they probably didn't anticipate on reception for the sequels becoming so mixed or TLJ completely fucking shit up to the point where they would need to push the reset button, but by the time it became clear that such a thing would need to happen, it was already too late to "reset" the park. They went in too overconfident based solely on international reception to TFA and thus made the park solely sequel focused. So overconfident they were that in an interview with one of the park's creators (I think it was Scott Trowbridge) he said that the park was planned to be expanded on in the future to feature areas based on Episodes X-XII, but this was before TLJ and Solo, showing just how overconfident they were in this park not needing to be based on anything old.

Also of note is that the park almost feels as though its designed to fail on purpose (they claim they expect big numbers yet they didn't even bother to stock up enough merch despite low numbers), so maybe that's the plan. Have it fail, write it off, redesign it, and make it something OT or old canon-based.

And speaking of Galaxy's Edge, seems shit just got worse.

 

[Dom Cruise]

To bring things back to the park for a bit, one thing that sucks about GE is the loss of the UFO prop from Flight of The Navigator, Disney's most underrated movie, being visible.

 

[CheezzyMach]

So all in all the Sequel Trilogy suffers from the exact same problem that New Star Trek suffers from.
Pointless and irrelevant beyond the initial dopamine hit in the theater and leaving you with no desire to ever see it again.
Yeah that sounds about right.
It's kinda J.J Abrams style. Although no one could have predicted Rian Johnson so New Trek wins on that front at least.

Atleast JJ was smart enough to say at the start New Trek was a different timeline and that he was staying far the fuck away from stuff fans loved.

Meanwhile Kennedy just took a wrecking ball to Star Wars.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

They've actually started to do that apparently, probably out of desperation. I remember mentioning it in this thread months back and Judge Holden made a crack about Disney getting desperate to appeal to any part of the fanbase after so many bad decisions. This May, Disney released their first piece of Legends media since 2014 (although a few Legends RPG guides were released up until 2016, probably because they thought they wouldn't need it anymore after TLJ) and when it was first announced, it was alongside the announcement of the KOTOR films Coincidence? I think not. The comic itself was a one-shot comic book continuation of the original Marvel run from the 70s and 80s, probably as a test of sorts to see if there was a market for Legends media that would put them back into the good graces of the fans. Not sure if it worked though as I can't find sales data for it, but reception seems really positive. But before that they were trying to bring back old canon elements but insert them into new canon, like the Ewoks movies, Jaxxon, and many others to mixed results and mixed reception from both new and old fans.


If the park keeps declining as it is, I think that will end up being a mute point. Also remember that this park started being built shortly after TFA was released so they probably didn't anticipate on reception for the sequels becoming so mixed or TLJ completely fucking shit up to the point where they would need to push the reset button, but by the time it became clear that such a thing would need to happen, it was already too late to "reset" the park. They went in too overconfident based solely on international reception to TFA and thus made the park solely sequel focused. So overconfident they were that in an interview with one of the park's creators (I think it was Scott Trowbridge) he said that the park was planned to be expanded on in the future to feature areas based on Episodes X-XII, but this was before TLJ and Solo, showing just how overconfident they were in this park not needing to be based on anything old.

Also of note is that the park almost feels as though its designed to fail on purpose (they claim they expect big numbers yet they didn't even bother to stock up enough merch despite low numbers), so maybe that's the plan. Have it fail, write it off, redesign it, and make it something OT or old canon-based.

And speaking of Galaxy's Edge, seems shit just got worse.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TQLGe1NMf4w

So, would they just retro fit the park(turn it into Mos Eisley) or just slowly redesign on top of it?

Indulging fantasies: I would have done a giant indoor space station that would have branched out to different planets or sections. You could update it based on whatever current movie was out.

I mean I DO think Disney has the right idea, to get away from the Skywalker stuff(thats a dead end). If they're smart the next set of films would take place like 300-1000 years in the future.

Slow down, take your time, plot it out. Give us meaningful characters, and the rest will fall into place....

 

[Larry Anon]

Here is my autistic speculation, if I'm taking certain bits and pieces as true:

• The macguffin containing Palpatine's essense. I guess some sort of weird artifact.
• The ending of lars homstead with Ridley and Driver
• The lightsaber duel that moves the characters through space/time
• Ren/Rey's force bond being further explored.
• Ren redeaming himself(I guess fighting possession?)through self sacrifice...

I'm leaving out some other stuff, but thats the only shit I can think of....​

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What we have seen and how it ties into this bullshit:​

• Rey having the flashback when touching Anakin's lightsaber in TFA.
• The drip of water on Ren's hand when he bonds with Rey in TLJ.
• Luke's projection at the end of TLJ, where(with all of his powers)projects himself across space and time. But, its only a projection.
• Yoda's comment about hoping the next generation does better than the previous one(paraphrasing).

So, where are they going with this nonsense? Its time travel; fixing the past to make for a better future(instead of destroying it).​

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This is Disney, so I'm thinking fairytale or 'Wizard of Oz'. Rey and Ren both have a unique ability. Rey can travel through time, but Ren can manipulate it. So, at some point, they both realize(if they work together)they can change reality...​

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This is probably the real power that Palpatine coveted. I think they're probably going to turn him into an eternal Sith Demon(why not? Who fucking cares?)whose been traveling through Sith hosts forever. So he possesed Plageius, Palpatine, Snoke...​

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All to eventually figure out to become a God himself who can manipulate reality to his whim....​

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So how do we get to the ending? So there is some sort of climactic ending, everyone fights. Rey and Ren fight stand-in Emperor. Big battle happening somwhere else. But, its totally fatalistic. The heroes win but everybody dies except for Rey. Finn, Poe, Chewie, and the falcon are destroyed. Ren(now Ben) is in the process of dying, and he tells Rey to destroy the artificat once he is dead(cause it will contain the essence of Palpatine).​

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Sensing this is the most pyhrric victory ever, Rey, while Ben is still alive, uses the force flash stuff to travel to Palpatines death in ROTJ, and destroys the artificat.​

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This creates a new reality(which is shown in imagery)​

• The first order never happens
• Snoke never happens
• Finn is never kidnapped
• Han and Leia alive
• Luke is alive and his temple restored
• Whatever
• Whatever
• You get the idea

We end it with Ben and Rey(Ben never becoming kylo, nor Rey a jedi) a simple couple, on Ben's uncles old farm(on Tatooine). They're watching the two suns rising in the distance...​

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It's totally sloppy, but audience getting their emotional dopamine won't care initially....​

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As stupid as this sounds, this is probably Disney's only move. They literally ruined the franchise and this is the only way to sort of save it. I still don't think the fans will forgive them, though. I know that I won't. I'm definitely not going to pay to see IX. I'll pirate it.

 

[CheezzyMach]

So, would they just retro fit the park(turn it into Mos Eisley) or just slowly redesign on top of it?

Indulging fantasies: I would have done a giant indoor space station that would have branched out to different planets or sections. You could update it based on whatever current movie was out.

I mean I DO think Disney has the right idea, to get away from the Skywalker stuff. If they're smart the next set of films would take place like 300-1000 years in the future.

Slow down, take your time, plot it out. Give us meaningful characters, and the rest will fall into place....

Like I've said before they should have just done either an Old Republic movie* like they're doing after IX * or set the movies far into the future like some of the old Dark Horse comics did. And given Ford,Fisher and Hamil an anthology film so fans could have a final adventure with the old gang.

As stupid as this sounds, this is probably Disney's only move. They literally ruined the franchise and this is the only way to sort of save it. I still don't think the fans will forgive them, though. I know that I won't. I'm definitely not going to pay to see IX. I'll pirate it.

Star Wars spergs used to say they'd never forgive old George for the prequels' fuckups and said they ruined Star Wars forever too.

I still remember all the whinging about how Anakin being a whiny brat in TPM/AOTC ruined Darth Vader as a character.

Disney will pander hard to fanboys for the next decade and quietly punt KK and the brand will slowly heal just like it did before.

 

[Creep3r]

So, would they just retro fit the park(turn it into Mos Eisley) or just slowly redesign on top of it?

Indulging fantasies: I would have done a giant indoor space station that would have branched out to different planets or sections. You could update it based on whatever current movie was out.

That's actually a pretty good idea. Some in this thread discussed park ideas a few pages back after bringing up everything wrong with the park. Anyway yeah, each planet/area could be divided into different sections of the park. Unique planets like Hoth, Bespin, Kamino, Mustafar or Nal Hutta could be made into indoor pavilions like some areas at Epcot to make them more realistic and give them unique skies that you can't simulate outdoors.

And converting Galaxy's Edge to Tatooine (at least the one in California) shouldn't be all that hard considering the park looked like Tatooine during the earliest periods of construction which misled normalfags into thinking it was going to be Tatooine.

Tatooine Construction - Star Wars Galaxy's Edge is Really Taking Shape

Tatooine Construction - Star Wars Galaxy's Edge is Really Taking Shape - Construction is moving along. Tatooine, the harsh desert planet orbiting twin

chipandco.com

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

As stupid as this sounds, this is probably Disney's only move. They literally ruined the franchise and this is the only way to sort of save it. I still don't think the fans will forgive them, though. I know that I won't. I'm definitely not going to pay to see IX. I'll pirate it.

The thing is, i think this was always in the gameplan. That the general idea was always this from the beginning.

Perhaps the execution would have been slightly different, but the end goal the same.

All of this stuff is probably built on Lucas's original treatment for 7-9, before he did ROTJ. After his messy divorce, he didnt want to do Star Wars anymore and he abridged 7-9 into ROTJ.

Luke's sister(not Leia) was the main character (in the final trilogy)with Luke as a secondary lead. The final showdown was the two of them defeating the emperor. Thats it, no more story...

All of that stuff probably just got updated and rejiggered into what we have now....

 

[Larry Anon]

All of this stuff is probably built on Lucas's original treatment for 7-9, before he did ROTJ. After his messy divorce, he didnt want to do Star Wars anymore and he abridged 7-9 into ROTJ.

George was fucking BITTER after that divorce. LOL. He trashed his ex wife in two movies:

1) The Sarlaac Pit in ROTJ was his wife's vagina
2) Mola Ram ripping people's hearts out in Temple Of Doom was based on his wife

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

George was fucking BITTER after that divorce. LOL. He trashed his ex wife in two movies:

1) The Sarlaac Pit in ROTJ was his wife's vagina
2) Mola Ram ripping people's hearts out in Temple Of Doom was based on his wife

She also was an amazing editor, and probably had some artistic influence on shaping the OT. I wouldn't be surprised if she influenced some of the writing...

 

[Dom Cruise]

And converting Galaxy's Edge to Tatooine (at least the one in California) shouldn't be all that hard considering the park looked like Tatooine during the earliest periods of construction which misled normalfags into thinking it was going to be Tatooine.

What if that was the plan all along to be able to convert it into Tatooine in case it bombed? Given the clear resemblance it has to Tatooine already.

 

[Larry Anon]

She also was an amazing editor, and probably had some artistic influence on shaping the OT. I wouldn't be surprised if she influenced some of the writing...

Look at the original version of the Sarlaac Pit in ROTJ, not the one with the beak head thing. It looks like a blown out vagina in the sand.
Agree that Marcia was an awesome editor. She basically saved ANH with her edit of it, and the movie would have probably bombed without her involvement. Like I said in previous posts, the prequel trilogy would have probably been awesome if George had a solid editor instead of a bunch of Yes Men.

That's actually a pretty good idea. Some in this thread discussed park ideas a few pages back after bringing up everything wrong with the park. Anyway yeah, each planet/area could be divided into different sections of the park. Unique planets like Hoth, Bespin, Kamino, Mustafar or Nal Hutta could be made into indoor pavilions like some areas at Epcot to make them more realistic and give them unique skies that you can't simulate outdoors.

And converting Galaxy's Edge to Tatooine (at least the one in California) shouldn't be all that hard considering the park looked like Tatooine during the earliest periods of construction which misled normalfags into thinking it was going to be Tatooine.
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Tatooine Construction - Star Wars Galaxy's Edge is Really Taking Shape

Tatooine Construction - Star Wars Galaxy's Edge is Really Taking Shape - Construction is moving along. Tatooine, the harsh desert planet orbiting twin

chipandco.com

NOTHING is going to save this park as long as it only has two rides. How fucking retarded are these people to build an amusement park with only two rides?

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Like I've said before they should have just done either an Old Republic movie* like they're doing after IX * or set the movies far into the future like some of the old Dark Horse comics did. And given Ford,Fisher and Hamil an anthology film so fans could have a final adventure with the old gang.

I know they commisioned a script for KOTOR, but is that the next trilogy?

We don't have a time line for what the GOT guys are doing? I guess Rian is working with them(since there is no way in hell he gets his own trilogy)

I assumed that the GOT guys would be writing something independent of that KOTOR script...

 

[Creep3r]

What if that was the plan all along to be able to convert it into Tatooine in case it bombed? Given the clear resemblance it has to Tatooine already.

Its possible, but the interviews I posted before with Scott and Chapek seem to disprove that. But let's assume that is the case and the interviews were made while they were drunk, then maybe it is a test to see if the Disney shit or old stuff is more popular. Although that was a really stupid and reckless thing to do if true. Also, the park only took 3 years to build, so it would take about half of that to turn it into Mos Eisley. And the Kylo Ren ride can easily be converted into a Vader ride by switching out the outfits on the animatronics and repainting the TIE-Fighter. But as @Larry Anon said, as long as the park only has two rides (with one that's already not that great) it may still fail even if it becomes Tatooine unless during that 1.5 year period they revamp the Falcon, add a roller coaster and feature actual aliens at the park. But I'm sure Disney would still find a way to fuck it all up.

I know they commisioned a script for KOTOR, but is that the next trilogy?

We don't have a time line for what the GOT guys are doing? I guess Rian is working with them(since there is no way in hell he gets his own trilogy)

I assumed that the GOT guys would be writing something independent of that KOTOR script...

We talked about this back in May and I agree with you in that I also suspect Rian is being forced to work on this shit since they're not letting him do anything else. So expect a trainwreck if you have D&D and Rian working together.

Star Wars Movie Based on Knights of the Old Republic Reportedly in the Works - IGN

A Star Wars film based on BioWare's Knights of the Old Republic is reportedly in the works at Disney, and it could be the first of a potential trilogy.

www.ign.com

 

[Larry Anon]

We don't have a time line for what the GOT guys are doing? I guess Rian is working with them(since there is no way in hell he gets his own trilogy)

There is no way in hell that Rian will ever be working on a Star Wars film ever again. I would even go so far as to say that there's no way in hell that he'll ever work on a Disney or Fox movie ever again.
They'll delay Rian's trilogy until people are distracted enough by something else, then they'll get rid of him. He is NOT well liked by Disney execs, no matter what they say publicly. He did so much damage to the franchise, not only with TLJ, but the constant mocking of fans on Twitter.
Notice how Daisy Ridley came out recently and said that "it was fair" for fans to not like TLJ? She wouldn't be doing that without Disney's approval. I actually like Daisy. I feel bad for her. None of this was really her fault, yet she'll be the "face" of this failure for years to come.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I just hope they give Keri something to.do lol.

Oh by the way.....Jake Lloyd. Anyone know how he's doing? He got a DUI several years ago and I think was in an institution for bipolar disorder? Is he okay now?

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Its possible, but the interviews I posted before with Scott and Chapek seem to disprove that. But let's assume that is the case and the interviews were made while they were drunk, then maybe it is a test to see if the Disney shit or old stuff is more popular. Although that was a really stupid and reckless thing to do if true. Also, the park only took 3 years to build, so it would take about half of that to turn it into Mos Eisley. And the Kylo Ren ride can easily be converted into a Vader ride by switching out the outfits on the animatronics and repainting the TIE-Fighter. But as @Larry Anon said, as long as the park only has two rides (with one that's already not that great) it may still fail even if it becomes Tatooine unless during that 1.5 year period they revamp the Falcon, add a roller coaster and feature actual aliens at the park. But I'm sure Disney would still find a way to fuck it all up.


We talked about this back in May and I agree with you in that I also suspect Rian is being forced to work on this shit since they're not letting him do anything else. So expect a trainwreck if you have D&D and Rian working together.

Star Wars Movie Based on Knights of the Old Republic Reportedly in the Works - IGN

A Star Wars film based on BioWare's Knights of the Old Republic is reportedly in the works at Disney, and it could be the first of a potential trilogy.

www.ign.com

Well, I dont have any major issues with Rian as a director. Pretty much all of the issues of TLJ, are script issues(that he wrote). If he is forced to work in a writers room, can he produce quality? I dont know. If KK leaves though, he has no protection...

D&D are a complete wild card, and it seems the Lucas story group is toothless and worthless.

Do they wait to see how Mandalorian pans out? Move Favreau to the film section if its well recieved? I guess it must be testing well if he got the green light for season 2..

You guys have any ideas who are no miss screenwriters for Star Wars?

 

[Larry Anon]

I just hope they give Keri something to.do lol.

Oh by the way.....Jake Lloyd. Anyone know how he's doing? He got a DUI several years ago and I think was in an institution for bipolar disorder? Is he okay now?

He's schizophrenic now because of all the bullying when he was a kid. He's in a mental institution and he'll probably never get out.