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I didn't say a reputation, I said he comes off as more that than the nu version. Just compare dialog - when was the last time you heard "succor" used in a sentence? Or look at how he says "zip it."

Actually it's funny you bring that up because I don't think any Fett story (old or nu EU) has him disintegrating anybody. I think the writers just forgot about that. (Then again why would a bounty hunter disintegrate someone? Seems to make it hard to prove your job.)

It could mean he reduced the quarry into a vapor for easier transport. There was a science fiction story from 1932 I read as a kid that had a story about aliens having a machine that reduced humans down to water for easier transportation back to their galaxy
 
He also comes off as less professional and sophisticated.

I'm not sure sophisticated is something to shoot for (the Dark Horse dialog is very "ho, varlet!" but that's just how comic books were written for a long time,) but professional is, due to him being a high-enough caliber professional to be in the friggin' Empire's rolodex.

I'm trying to invent a term for it because it's all very... bullying, you know?

I guess the writer needed the Mos Eisley people to be uncooperative so Boba Fett can be a "badass" by making threats and hurting people.
Douches always imagine that "badass" means being a douche to others and harming them like a psychopath without remorse. They seldom understand how much more badass a laid back character is that will matter-of-fact-ly announce that he's going to become unpleasant without him busting kneecaps and breaking noses from the get-go.
Said Douche writers don't know how terrifying a subtle threat of violence can be if played out right.

Not sure if it's exactly right, but I think the concept people are looking for here is "appropriate use of force." DH!Fett is a lot more surgical, preferring to talk but willing to apply lethal force when that doesn't work, while Disney!Fett throws his weight around at every opportunity. When you remember that his big achievement in ESB involves outthinking both the Empire and the protagonists, which one seems closer to that character?

And definitely agree with the "Disney writers don't know what they're talking about, so they think being a badass just involves beating people up." In most situations, Fett should be the proverbial eight hundred pound gorilla who sits wherever he wants- and as a result, has a relatively limited need for mundane violence. Take a look at the first minute or so of the Doom Eternal trailer for a much better version of how to do this:

The slayer doesn't say a single word, let alone throw a punch; all your information about how badass he is comes from how everyone around him reacts. It's not Shakespeare, but it's quite functional less-is-more storytelling.
 
So I know who replacing Windbag to write a mini series of Vader and it's someone some of you might know: Dennis Hopeless (in case you might not recognize him he brought the teenage O5 X-Men to the present (I actually thought that was Bendis fault)
 
So apparently Kevin Smith "cried" on the set of IX and that's supposed to be an incentive for people to want to watch the movie...
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-kevin-smith-set-visit-reaction/

Kevin Smith said:
J.J.'s doing the lord's work. This movie looks fantastic. It's a year away, but man, it looks fantastic. I wept on set because I saw somebody give a career-best performance. Somebody I've seen in these movies before. I rolled a tear, it was so darn powerful. Biggest set I've ever seen in my life. The dude's not directing a movie. It's like he's directing a small country.
Why do I have a hard time believing he's not shilling extra hard? Honestly, Kevin has become such a massive sellout.
So I know who replacing Windbag to write a mini series of Vader and it's someone some of you might know: Dennis Hopeless (in case you might not recognize him he brought the teenage O5 X-Men to the present (I actually thought that was Bendis fault)
Hopeless... What a fitting name for the current state of things.
 
Hopeless... What a fitting name for the current state of things.

When I think about the task of improving Star Wars, I, too, think it's a hopeless job.

So apparently Kevin Smith "cried" on the set of IX and that's supposed to be an incentive for people to want to watch the movie...
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-kevin-smith-set-visit-reaction/

Why do I have a hard time believing he's not shilling extra hard? Honestly, Kevin has become such a massive sellout.
After years and years of acting, Daisey Ridley finally managed to emote more than just "desinterested confusion".
 
I'm not sure sophisticated is something to shoot for (the Dark Horse dialog is very "ho, varlet!" but that's just how comic books were written for a long time,) but professional is, due to him being a high-enough caliber professional to be in the friggin' Empire's rolodex.

Not just there but the original Star Wars always had a... I won't say "high" vocabulary, let's call it an "elevated" vocabulary to it. It was a great writing effect because you could understand what everyone was saying but the speaking sounded just off enough to really make it feel like a different time & place. (one might say a long time ago in a galaxy far far away) Which is something else I think the nuWars are lacking.

Not sure if it's exactly right, but I think the concept people are looking for here is "appropriate use of force." DH!Fett is a lot more surgical, preferring to talk but willing to apply lethal force when that doesn't work, while Disney!Fett throws his weight around at every opportunity. When you remember that his big achievement in ESB involves outthinking both the Empire and the protagonists, which one seems closer to that character?

There we go. I like that. Thanks. I knew someone would help me figure it out. I mean just look at the 2nd Disney panel. Dead jawas! What could they have possible done to deserve getting killed?? They are the redshirts of the SW universe to the point that even stormtroopers kill them.

After years and years of acting, Daisey Ridley finally managed to emote more than just "desinterested confusion".

To be just slightly fair - it's not like the scripts have given her much to work with.

Wait a minute...

Daisy Ridley
Disney Rey

:thinking:

(she's a replicant!)
 
So apparently Kevin Smith "cried" on the set of IX and that's supposed to be an incentive for people to want to watch the movie...
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-kevin-smith-set-visit-reaction/


Why do I have a hard time believing he's not shilling extra hard? Honestly, Kevin has become such a massive sellout.

Hopeless... What a fitting name for the current state of things.

Kevin Smith cried when R2-D2 looked at BB-8 and said "Nigga I yo grandaddy, bitch!"

And of course
"But perhaps it was one of the heroes who invoked that reaction out of Smith, as the likes of Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, and Oscar Isaac are all comfortable in their roles now and play the characters with confidence."

I mean, Mary Sue, Token Minority, and Cuck aren't hard characters to nail.
 
So apparently Kevin Smith "cried" on the set of IX and that's supposed to be an incentive for people to want to watch the movie...
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-9-kevin-smith-set-visit-reaction/

Why do I have a hard time believing he's not shilling extra hard? Honestly, Kevin has become such a massive sellout.

I share your skepticism, as he did the exact same thing for The Force Awakens to generate buzz.

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The exact opposite is also true. And both examples of the worst of too much have been given to us by Disney. Too much restriction gave us TFA, while too much freedom gave us TLJ. I'm not sure where to put Rogue One and Solo in this since they're an odd bag. Kennedy demanded complete re-shoots for both films midway into production and in the second time around there was either more freedom or less freedom.

I agree George had way to much agreement in the creation of the prequels, and they are middling to terrible for me.

As for the new Star Wars it basically suffered from no one questioning any decisions that were made on an executive level. The producers didn't care what was produced because it was going to make them money regardless and so basically this meant that Kennedy had the greenlight to do whatever the hell she wanted.

At the same time you have Abrams dicking with the story, and while he is a decent director his writing skills have always been questionable at best. The reason he was likely brought on was because of the paint job that he did for the Star Trek franchise and the big whigs at Disney wanted the same sort of thing.

So you have a director/writer and a main producer who wanted to create something new with the Star Wars universe, but without realizing that while you want to bring new characters in to the story and continue the universe, you have to do it in a way that is going to appease the fans of the series. Instead the first film was all flash and no bang with a terrible rehash of A New Hope, plot holes glaring through it, and it doesn't follow the Lucas formula which is recognizable to fans. Add in the new Socjus shit that Hollywood seems obsessed with at the moment, and you have a recipe for a beloved film franchise producing mediocrity.

The sad thing too is that the stories films are alright, and they could have been better, but again its a case of the Kennedy bringing on terrible staff and writers to head the project, and no one else putting their foot down on the side of the fans.

Sadly the way Disney views, or at least did until people stopped forking money over for their crap adaptations was this. Fans don't matter, because they are fans, you could serve them dog shit with a Star Wars logo on it, and they'd still buy it. Sadly I think that's been reflected in its approach to the EU and novels as well.



Lot to take in, but its interesting to see what Lucas used and what Lucas didn't in terms of the production for the films. It was made clear in the article though that he did as I suspected, and didn't have a grand over all scheme in place for which he was writing the prequel episodes, and as a result the story suffered from it when there were changes that needed to be made. Effectively the focus on Anakin in the 3rd film was the right direction to have taken, but again I feel that it was a missed opportunity where you had the opportunity to tell the story of Darth Vader and his fall from grace, and that wasn't effectively communicated over the course of the three films.
It would seem that Lucas only realistically settles on the denouement of this idea in the 3rd film, and by that time in terms of real character development it is lost.

As for the final article, while I agree that the film didn't need to build on the existing lore that had been set up for it in the previous films, it could have taken the point that the empire must rise, and Darth Vader with it, and made it more of a focal point for the story. Even if the consideration wasn't that things were going swimmingly for the republic and they literally were at the point of having to become a dictatorship or crumble, etc, it would have added more interest in the first 3 episodes, rather than waffling along with the first two and then making the magical decision to actually make some effort with the story.

You know, when Hux popped up in TLJ, I didn't even know that he was a character from TFA, cause he was such a lame and boring buffoon that I didn't even know he was supposed to be the dude that gave the speech in TFA.
A shame, I get the feeling the actor would be more than capable of delivering a really good performance if the script wasn't shit.

I always thought Darth Maul looked silly and I could not take him seriously as the villain, but killing him off made him even more of a joke.
The ST suffers from the same issue, amusingly, only to a much larger extend. The OT suffered from villains being replaced by some other dude that the viewer didn't care about. The ST now pretty much the same, only applied to pretty much every aspect of the movie.

Hux was a waste of a character. They basically made a clone of Tarkin and not a very good one, there is no character motivation, nor any development, if you wanted him to have any clout with the audience, then he needed to be just as seductive and powerful an enemy as his counterpart. Tarkin worked well, because he was just as powerful in terms of manipulation as Vader, but without relying on the raw strength.

I don't blame the actor for saying yes, it is a Star Wars film, the money from which alone can fund a lot of years working in lesser paying though more rewarding acting jobs. His best work to date has to be as the clone of himself in Black Mirror. Not a failing of the actor, it really it just a lame ass character, and might as well have been given to an extra.

Maul could have been good, but again suffers from the above. You cannot have a mustache twirling enemy without it coming across as unbelievable. All of the best baddies in any medium make you like them as much as hate them. Maul had no character aside from his super duper light sabre, and being the emperors lackey.

Agreed, with the originals it was General Grevious, Dooku, Maul, they all were essentially there to make toys, and without a proper introduction you couldn't really relate to them as characters.

Now in the new stuff you have Hux, Snopes, Phasma, and to a lesser extend Kylo Ren, no one gives a fuck about the characters because any sort of story arch that they might have had, has been lost when Rian Johnson shit the bed, and so now it was just a case of cookie cutter disposable characters, that you don't feel anything for when they win or lose, because they are irrelevant. At the same time people were genuinely upset with Luke's death, because they love the character and wanted to see something better done for it.
 
So I know who replacing Windbag to write a mini series of Vader and it's someone some of you might know: Dennis Hopeless (in case you might not recognize him he brought the teenage O5 X-Men to the present (I actually thought that was Bendis fault)
When it announced Shadow of Vader at New York Comic Con back in October, Marvel likewise pitched the book as being a series of stories presented by different voices in the galaxy far, far away—all about their reaction to brushing up against the infamous Darth Vader as a vehicle for exploring unseen sides of Palpatine’s dread enforcer.

I once had an idea for a Vader story
a bunch of Rebels/Rebel adjacent people are breaking into an Imperial shuttle to free some slaves. Every so often they're assisted by a figure in huge robes, who only appears for about three minutes at a time. The leader of the gang is convinced it's a trap, and the man is luring them into a prison or something, but his deputy thinks it might be either a Rebel plant or an Imperial officer who disagrees with slavery. At one point they'd have to cross a room where the oxygen generator is damaged, and someone mentioned that in space you can only hold your breath for three minutes. Toward the end the figure would prove his loyalty to them by killing a hole bunch of Stormtroopers. When they escape with the slaves, we see the figure shed the robes, and Vader switches his breathing machine back on. He remembers being Anakin, and a slave
It's not an amazing idea, and I'm never gonna do anything with it, so may as well sperg out in a Star Wars thread!
 
are all comfortable in their roles now
Well good, it only took them three movies and however many years to achieve basic competence in their craft. I can see why Kevin Smith might think that's an acceptable pace.
 
So rumor is Marey Sure is not even going to build her own Lightsber but will rebuild Luke's, I have never heard of qthat being done so are they pulling that out of their asses?
 
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"Punch me"
Was this seriously released by a professional comicbook company?! If it was a fanmade thing where someone with no platform really wanted to tell a story I could forgive it, but the first panel is a migrane - C3pO and R2D2 both look like digital drawings, Leia is clearly a filtered photograph, and the back of the other person's head seems to be hand drawn.
Leia's face is in a totally different style to her clothing, they don't even match. How much do you wanna bet that there's a vault of digitally drawn stock images for the droids, which they mix and match with?
Looking at the image as a whole is just painful.
if with the things I make I use different image sources, I try to either "homogenize" them before assembling the image, or run a filter over the whole thing so it looks the same all over
 
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