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Is she supposed to be a Star Wars OC donut steel? The hell is up with that design? She looks like what you'd get when a TV show wants to show a comic con but doesn't have enough licensing money to depict the characters people would actually cosplay to one.
 
Is she supposed to be a Star Wars OC donut steel? The hell is up with that design? She looks like what you'd get when a TV show wants to show a comic con but doesn't have enough licensing money to depict the characters people would actually cosplay to one.
That's Aphra a obnoxious, over present character that managed to survive being chucked into space by Vader, one of the three whose existence shits on Luke (Aphra who Disney made a bigger "hero" than Luke during the Galactic Civil War, Wending female poc that was the real reason the Empire stopped existing and Rey Sue)

Oh and two rumors this time and don't ask me how I can he first one works because I know I'm going to end up ranting: Revan will be made Canon as he might be Kylo redeemer and 2) We could get romantic shenanigans as Rey and Rose might have a side of together (KILL ME) and Rose obviously bhas feelings for Finn but this rumor states Finn might still have feelings for Rey

I want this to be Mega bomb because i want to see careers ended over how bad it will be
 
Eh, as long as Reylo is sunk, I'm ok. I mean, the movie's gonna suck either way, but smug Reylo fangirls are as obnoxious as the SJWs fans and slash shippers.
 
Eh, as long as Reylo is sunk, I'm ok. I mean, the movie's gonna suck either way, but smug Reylo fangirls are as obnoxious as the SJWs fans and slash shippers.
Have Rey and Rose together by themselves will open a tear in fabric of space, too much shitty dum smugness in one place
 

See, I think with all the info about Aphra, the one missing link to her popularity was her being a chink.
Now it all makes sense, there's just a few thirsty idiots with yellowfever, dreaming of their cute kickass asian waifu in SPAAAAAAAAAAACE.

They're basically "medals" of sorts containing data proving your rank and allow you to access classified shit by aiming them at computers. The more of them you have, the more you can do without restriction. For the film, these medals were made using radiation dosimeters.

Sure, but in the image, they look like something floating in front of the guy, when they are supposed to be tucked into a pocket on his shirt. They awkwardly float in front of his shoulder, they don't affect the shape of the fabric that they are behind (and in front of) and it looks more like it's a square metal brooch, since it's so flat looking.

2) We could get romantic shenanigans as Rey and Rose might have a side of together (KILL ME) and Rose obviously bhas feelings for Finn but this rumor states Finn might still have feelings for Rey
Sorry, I can't make sense of this. Are you implying Rey/Rose lesbian shenanigans, are they going to fight over Finn?

Also, what the fuck kind of a thirsty motherfucker is Finn that he essentially sees a woman for a couple minutes and goes "Deeeeeerp I wanna suck faces with her" within minutes. At this rate, we might count ourselves lucky that he didn't end up interested in Phasma, after all, he has had more on-screen interaction with her than he had with Rose or Rey.

Eh, as long as Reylo is sunk, I'm ok. I mean, the movie's gonna suck either way, but smug Reylo fangirls are as obnoxious as the SJWs fans and slash shippers.
The best outcome for us is SW to piss off as many people as possible.
 
See, I think with all the info about Aphra, the one missing link to her popularity was her being a chink.
Now it all makes sense, there's just a few thirsty idiots with yellowfever, dreaming of their cute kickass asian waifu in SPAAAAAAAAAAACE.



Sure, but in the image, they look like something floating in front of the guy, when they are supposed to be tucked into a pocket on his shirt. They awkwardly float in front of his shoulder, they don't affect the shape of the fabric that they are behind (and in front of) and it looks more like it's a square metal brooch, since it's so flat looking.


Sorry, I can't make sense of this. Are you implying Rey/Rose lesbian shenanigans, are they going to fight over Finn?

Also, what the fuck kind of a thirsty motherfucker is Finn that he essentially sees a woman for a couple minutes and goes "Deeeeeerp I wanna suck faces with her" within minutes. At this rate, we might count ourselves lucky that he didn't end up interested in Phasma, after all, he has had more on-screen interaction with her than he had with Rose or Rey.


The best outcome for us is SW to piss off as many people as possible.
Rumors indicate a possibility of catfighting over Finn and as to why Finn is so damn thirsty? He's a stereotype of a blakman that's why
 
Sorry, I can't make sense of this. Are you implying Rey/Rose lesbian shenanigans, are they going to fight over Finn?

Also, what the fuck kind of a thirsty motherfucker is Finn that he essentially sees a woman for a couple minutes and goes "Deeeeeerp I wanna suck faces with her" within minutes. At this rate, we might count ourselves lucky that he didn't end up interested in Phasma, after all, he has had more on-screen interaction with her than he had with Rose or Rey.

Is he, though? IIRC, his plot thread in TLJ involved Rose inviting herself along on his idiotic mission, then preventing him from destroying Laser-Grond and #metoo-ing him on the battlefield for good measure. Finn didn't seem to have any interest in her, but she's desperate too find out if he is, in fact, too beaucoup.
 
Rumors indicate a possibility of catfighting over Finn and as to why Finn is so damn thirsty? He's a stereotype of a blakman that's why
Sheesh, for a second, I was afraid they would go for more diversity points by shoving a lesbian relationship into the mix.
But hey, at least there might be some interpersonal drama... three movies into the fucking trilogy. :story:
Again, one of the things that would amuse me to no end would be if Rose sacrifices herself in the IX, just to make her character and her motivation even more of a mess.

Is he, though? IIRC, his plot thread in TLJ involved Rose inviting herself along on his idiotic mission, then preventing him from destroying Laser-Grond and #metoo-ing him on the battlefield for good measure. Finn didn't seem to have any interest in her, but she's desperate too find out if he is, in fact, too beaucoup.
The last scene on the Millenium Falcon shows him putting his jacket on her like a blanket. It#s the stereotypical "Character grows attached to other character" trope.
 
And they said that tracing was bad and would never get you hired in the comics industry. Holy shit that art is terrible and anyone who thought tracing scenes from the movies was a good idea (or just putting a filter on some stills) needs to be chucked out the airlock on the Millennium Falcon.
 
We could get romantic shenanigans as Rey and Rose might have a side of together (KILL ME) and Rose obviously bhas feelings for Finn but this rumor states Finn might still have feelings for Rey

Skeptical. They can't do more than wink at a fish fry -- and even that indirectly -- if they want the movie to get a release in China.

Then again, given how indifferent (Rogue One) to actively detesting (Solo, The Last Jedi) China has been toward Disney Star Wars maybe they'll just nope out of the market in its entirety for asspats on HuffPo and praise on Twitter. And even if the movie underperforms world-wide will Bob Iger or Alan Horn be willing to swing the axe on Kathleen Kennedy representin' the wamen through Star Wars this way? Maybe, given that Alan Horn met with James Gunn face to face and still gave him the boot, but maybe not, given that Alan Horn is well into his seventies and is possibly getting tired of this shit. Iger won't be running for president in 2020, so he won't need to worry about the few conservatives still voting Dem.
 
Alright caught up now. I see a lot of speculation on the making of from folks. So let me just say now, all you need to know is here:
https://sfdebris.com/videos/special/herosjourney.php <-- Star Wars
https://sfdebris.com/videos/special/shadowsjourney.php <-- ESB & RotJ
https://sfdebris.com/videos/special/hermitsjourney.php <-- Prequels up to the sale to Disney

Trust me, your questions are answered there. Every one of them I've seen is addressed somewhere in those videos Chuck made. i.e. What happened then and now? As he pointed out, THEN - George Lucas was hanging out with the likes of Spielberg & Scorsese at the top of their game. They had input on SW. Later? He wasn't. And so on.

(the Ewoks cartoon/movies, I Jedi Jedi Search, shit from Jedi Prince, the Holiday Special and even the infamous Skippy...)

Wait you don't mean...

Yes. Disney even recanonized canonized Skippy the Jedi Droid (which was originally not even canon under the EU since it was just a comedic story) in their "From a Certain Point of View" novel. In it, Skippy desires to be loved... Yes, loved. And he's dying from a lack of love... But he nobly realizes that he must sacrifice himself for the greater good of the galaxy and blows up his own motivator, and unlike with Skippy, this shit is treated as absolutely serious, but it gets a pass "cuz Disney".

AHHHHH. Why do they have to shit all over my representation? No love for Jedi droids?

And no, it won't stop being funny to me either that they took a joke story and made it canon serious.

Was I, Jedi really hated that much? I just finished it and it wasn't a great novel by any means, the first person perspective was a bit jarring and Corran Horn comes off as a hilariously stereotypical Mary Sue (author OC self-insert into a story that wasn't his, awesome badass backstory, Corellian super special secret jedi lineage to name a few) but I didn't get the impression that is was hated quite as much as well, the Jedi Academy trilogy that it basically partially retcons.

I may need to reread it but I really liked I, Jedi if just for the fact that it made an interesting limitation for Lucas' Mary Sue order (and let's face it, ALL jedi are mary sues) that everybody should have run with. (it would also give extra narrative umph to Anakin if he was the only one without limitations) That Corran took what he had and did what he could with it I found interesting and would have liked to seen more first person stories of jedi overcoming their force limitations.

The only thing is there's some Luke x Leia fluff that never amounts to anything but its one of those things that one expects because this was before ESB but it still comes off as odd.

Not true. Leia kisses Luke twice in ESB.
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Unfortunately you can't sort that chart by publication date, but it sure looks like there's not much content from 1984 to 1991.
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#neverForget

It reminds me of the talk in this thread previously concerning the Disney films being a sort of "blank canvas" movies where people fill in all the many blanks or confusing scenes with their own fanfiction. Something tells me Hux (and several others) are a strong example of this. Its like each new fans has their own version of Hux and other characters in their headcanon with some pre-conceived expectations based on mental fanfiction they conceived as they watched the new films.

Yay! You got it right and with an appropriate example! I give you an A+.

My only actual grievances with the prequels

The prequels have their own writing problems separate and distinct from the sequels. The single biggest is that there's very little material in tPM and AotC meaning that RotS has to be overstuffed.

I guess part of the reason why the OT was so great was because George was constantly under pressure and restrictions to the point of stress, along with vocal editors who kept things in-line, unlike now where everyone had to do what he said.

See above

with said cape only being used for ESB.

Not true. He wore a cape as a general in RotJ.
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See, I think with all the info about Aphra, the one missing link to her popularity was her being a chink.
Now it all makes sense, there's just a few thirsty idiots with yellowfever, dreaming of their cute kickass asian waifu in SPAAAAAAAAAAACE.

lol The sad part is Aphra COULD be an interesting character. But just like all things SJWs just never seem to be able to show restraint. Pull back, don't over do it. Earn the character moments. Instead they just go full tilt at everything like hyper toddlers.

One of these days I'm going to post pictures of two comic pages, both involving Boba Fett in a bar. One from the Disney days, one from Dark Horse. If you can spot the contrast (besides the difference in art) you'll see what I mean.

Also, what the fuck kind of a thirsty motherfucker is Finn that he essentially sees a woman for a couple minutes and goes "Deeeeeerp I wanna suck faces with her" within minutes. At this rate, we might count ourselves lucky that he didn't end up interested in Phasma, after all, he has had more on-screen interaction with her than he had with Rose or Rey.

Now I get it. Working under Phasma - the only visible lady - gave Finn a kind of Oedipus complex so now he's all into take charge, domineering women. So of course he's attracted to Rey.
 
I may need to reread it but I really liked I, Jedi if just for the fact that it made an interesting limitation for Lucas' Mary Sue order (and let's face it, ALL jedi are mary sues) that everybody should have run with. (it would also give extra narrative umph to Anakin if he was the only one without limitations) That Corran took what he had and did what he could with it I found interesting and would have liked to seen more first person stories of jedi overcoming their force limitations.
I probably came off as a little too harsh on it, I certainly didn't hate or even dislike it and the first person narrative was pretty neat in places (especially when Corran experiences the destruction of Carida through the force).
Now I get it. Working under Phasma - the only visible lady - gave Finn a kind of Oedipus complex so now he's all into take charge, domineering women. So of course he's attracted to Rey.
Guess that means he'll end up falling for Rose too, since from when they met she's tased him, hijacked his mission for her own whims, and cucked him out of doing a heroic sacrifice and fulfilling what was probably supposed to be his redundant redemption arc.
 
Cards with a strong sense of humor... Now these are worth collecting!

lol The sad part is Aphra COULD be an interesting character. But just like all things SJWs just never seem to be able to show restraint. Pull back, don't over do it. Earn the character moments. Instead they just go full tilt at everything like hyper toddlers.
I think the only potential that appears in her character comes from that she was solely created to be a "female Indiana Jones" according to her creator. So any appealing instance that arises from the character just seems like the writer channeling Indiana Jones but putting him in a shittier female role. But even then, this could still work since its not necessarily a bad thing to have a character based on someone more famous, but the story and characters are just so forced that the whole thing comes off as the tryhard fanfiction of some teen on a sugar rush. Not to mention Aphra is just so fucking obnoxious and full of herself that it's no wonder hipsters, tumblrites (lol dead) Twitter drones and ResetERA dregs drool all over her. It was next to impossible to criticize her before, but now it truly is since that she's gone full lesbo and now has a girlfriend that looks like an imperial cyborg troon, and that gives her a protected status, making it impossible to criticize her shitty comic now without getting banned, alienated or branded as some sort of "filthy unprogressive bastard"...

One of these days I'm going to post pictures of two comic pages, both involving Boba Fett in a bar. One from the Disney days, one from Dark Horse. If you can spot the contrast (besides the difference in art) you'll see what I mean.

Now I get it. Working under Phasma - the only visible lady - gave Finn a kind of Oedipus complex so now he's all into take charge, domineering women. So of course he's attracted to Rey.
It all makes sense now...
 
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Marvel Boba Fett is a murderous psychobat that doesn't know how to get stuff without killing and hurting people?
He also comes off as less professional and sophisticated.

I'm trying to invent a term for it because it's all very... bullying, you know? Just look at the scene. I mean why not offer to buy someone in the bar a drink for Luke's name? Why doesn't somebody tell him? What loyalty do the patrons of Mos Eisley ("a wretched hive", remember?) have towards Luke? Everybody's just trying to impose their wills on each other with no regard for whether it makes any sense in character or world building.

It's like a 5 year old's concept of drama. "Dramatic scenes contain conflict - so I'll have Boba want something and the other people not want him to have it." Why do the others oppose him? "Uh... because they don't like him."
 
He also comes off as less professional and sophisticated.

I'm trying to invent a term for it because it's all very... bullying, you know? Just look at the scene. I mean why not offer to buy someone in the bar a drink for Luke's name? Why doesn't somebody tell him? What loyalty do the patrons of Mos Eisley ("a wretched hive", remember?) have towards Luke? Everybody's just trying to impose their wills on each other with no regard for whether it makes any sense in character or world building.

It's like a 5 year old's concept of drama. "Dramatic scenes contain conflict - so I'll have Boba want something and the other people not want him to have it." Why do the others oppose him? "Uh... because they don't like him."
I guess the writer needed the Mos Eisley people to be uncooperative so Boba Fett can be a "badass" by making threats and hurting people.
Douches always imagine that "badass" means being a douche to others and harming them like a psychopath without remorse. They seldom understand how much more badass a laid back character is that will matter-of-fact-ly announce that he's going to become unpleasant without him busting kneecaps and breaking noses from the get-go.
Said Douche writers don't know how terrifying a subtle threat of violence can be if played out right.
 
Why would Boba Fett have a reputation of being professional and sophisticated. This was a guy that Darth Vader that to remind not to disintegrate his quarry.
I didn't say a reputation, I said he comes off as more that than the nu version. Just compare dialog - when was the last time you heard "succor" used in a sentence? Or look at how he says "zip it."

Actually it's funny you bring that up because I don't think any Fett story (old or nu EU) has him disintegrating anybody. I think the writers just forgot about that. (Then again why would a bounty hunter disintegrate someone? Seems to make it hard to prove your job.)
 
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