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N0thingICanDo said:
It's midnight here in Washington, Phil's late night gin binging definitely started to kick in


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Yes, still dropping tears like a waterfall about the lost money rain. He is so much totally over it and pahsitive, he has to bother his Twitter with his business income and begs for a compensation in the process. Sniff sniff snort, gimme the pitty bucks please? Sure, it totally not holds him down.
 
Wurstbrot said:
So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume the following happened:
After purchasing the TV he put it back in his cart, so he hasn't have to search for it again later. He did that to confirm to his donator which TV he bought, or maybe the donator asked for the stats. Maybe the donator doesn't give a crap but Phil just wants to make the ball round and sent it to him anyway, because business reasons. I dunno, can happen, it's an explanation to me.
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let's say he put it back into his cart so he can bring it up quickly
that shows he's too fucking lazy to check his email confirmation about what he bought
or too lazy to make a separate "wishlist" with the stuff he bought after he bought it

it makes it sound like he's the kind of guy who dumps his clothes on the floor so he knows where it is.
 
@Wurstbrot It's also possible if he did something like: put the item (TV) in his cart, open a second tab on the site (to shop around, look at specs, etc), then made the purchase on either tab with the other still open; that when he went back to the site it was still in the cart.

I've had it happen a couple times that I had multiple iterations of a site open, and hence multiple iterations of the same shopping cart, and had an order that was 'on the way' still in my shopping cart when I was checking shipping info. I learned immediately not to do that. I had one smaller site where it processed the order twice but I ended up just keeping both orders as it was packs for a trading card game. Of course Dave is mentally disabled so this precludes him from ever learning how to not fuck things up.
 
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Wurstbrot said:
W00ps, I've put the following in the wrong thread. Here we go, all fixed.

Something about the 4kTVPS4Pro-Saga felt kinda odd lately. I guess this happens most of the time when a topic stays for a while, it creates space to think at least twice -- and have to look it up. First of, I don't really understand the 'Freudian Slip' about the 4kTV-order, unless I totally missunderstand the slip. Sure, he not only stutters, but this was one of the worst spoken english sentences, so what I could filter was: Phil says someone gifted him money to buy the TV. This is also confirmed in his first announcement, as he says "someone donated enough funds to get a new TV". He also says he don't want to "order it again", which could mean 2 things: He ordered it (he got "the funds", so no surprise) or he doesn't want to have the TV again because he already has it. Both meanings are fine.

I'm still struggling with his explanation why the TV is in his cart again (which should be gone after the purchase).
He explains: To give the donator the stats of his TV.
Let me start this way: The thing with Phil (and tbh a very lotta people) they don't necessarily speak organized, coordinated, with specific purposes. He's not a trained speaker, he's not an anime overlord, he's horrible at compiling words to sentences together, you know what I mean. He often misses to give specific informations to understand his intention, purposefully or not. In his head he knows what he means, but he doesn't give a crap if anything else does (and he is not obliged to give full explanations 24/7 just cuz he's under the eyes of deetraktoars, who does that? Nobody.). I'm sure he often has malicious intends to enrich himself, which doesn't mean every word he speaks has an intend. Especially not in the case of Dave "blabbermouth" Burnett.

So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume the following happened:
After purchasing the TV he put it back in his cart, so he hasn't have to search for it again later. He did that to confirm to his donator which TV he bought, or maybe the donator asked for the stats. Maybe the donator doesn't give a crap but Phil just wants to make the ball round and sent it to him anyway, because business reasons. I dunno, can happen, it's an explanation to me.

Of course, the existence of these 2 people who donated the equipment stays questionable.

So have I missunderstood the very obvious slip?
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i see where you are coming from , is it really that far fetched that the same retards who would gift 500 bucks in subs would DONATE 300 bucks flat ? not really , but i think the discussion is on the timing he bitched about his ps4 and tv ever around the time he was flying khet over you would think if someone would DONATE they would have done it along time ago , but as with everything when it rains it pours maybe someone really STEPPED UP
its not impossible ,but another thing to have in mind that dave jarbo stands to gain alot from it being that way like it would show him as the GUY who gets shit from his youtube fans you know thos mythical creatures ? they exist now !
imho it's just too good to be true , but ive seen stranger things , we have people tracking his tips and shit and they saw nothing so it really makes you think
 
Wurstbrot said:
W00ps, I've put the following in the wrong thread. Here we go, all fixed.

Something about the 4kTVPS4Pro-Saga felt kinda odd lately. I guess this happens most of the time when a topic stays for a while, it creates space to think at least twice -- and have to look it up. First of, I don't really understand the 'Freudian Slip' about the 4kTV-order, unless I totally missunderstand the slip. Sure, he not only stutters, but this was one of the worst spoken english sentences, so what I could filter was: Phil says someone gifted him money to buy the TV. This is also confirmed in his first announcement, as he says "someone donated enough funds to get a new TV". He also says he don't want to "order it again", which could mean 2 things: He ordered it (he got "the funds", so no surprise) or he doesn't want to have the TV again because he already has it. Both meanings are fine.

I'm still struggling with his explanation why the TV is in his cart again (which should be gone after the purchase).
He explains: To give the donator the stats of his TV.
Let me start this way: The thing with Phil (and tbh a very lotta people) they don't necessarily speak organized, coordinated, with specific purposes. He's not a trained speaker, he's not an anime overlord, he's horrible at compiling words to sentences together, you know what I mean. He often misses to give specific informations to understand his intention, purposefully or not. In his head he knows what he means, but he doesn't give a crap if anything else does (and he is not obliged to give full explanations 24/7 just cuz he's under the eyes of deetraktoars, who does that? Nobody.). I'm sure he often has malicious intends to enrich himself, which doesn't mean every word he speaks has an intend. Especially not in the case of Dave "blabbermouth" Burnett.

So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume the following happened:
After purchasing the TV he put it back in his cart, so he hasn't have to search for it again later. He did that to confirm to his donator which TV he bought, or maybe the donator asked for the stats. Maybe the donator doesn't give a crap but Phil just wants to make the ball round and sent it to him anyway, because business reasons. I dunno, can happen, it's an explanation to me.

Of course, the existence of these 2 people who donated the equipment stays questionable.

So have I missunderstood the very obvious slip?
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Im still confused a bit.
Did he buy it through amazon? Cause I assume he did... so it should be under orders, no reason to put back to basket.
 
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https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1034372855188807680 / http://archive.is/oRvhP
https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1034367542398083072 / http://archive.is/lEzoj

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HerrKlicks said:
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https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1034372855188807680 / http://archive.is/oRvhP
https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1034367542398083072 / http://archive.is/lEzoj

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Leave it to Phil to cry about losing STOLEN money and somehow act like he's a victim of mischief. Dude, that money wasn't supposed to be yours, you should be happy for the original owner of the credit card that they didn't lose their money to a crappy streamer. Unlike Phil, they probably had to work hard for their money.
 
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Dr.Chill said:
Is the 2k in bits next or does he get to keep that amount?
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Not sure but if it's a stolen credit card, no way in hell are the credit card companies gonna pay that amount to Twitch. So either Twitch pays that money to Phil from their own pockets, or Phil doesn't get anything.

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If the money stolen is on credit, the Consumer Credit Act applies.

This legislation states that for any unauthorised transactions the cardholder might be held liable for the first £50 spent if a card is lost or stolen.

Again many banks and building societies will waive this.

  • Once the theft has been reported to the card provider, the cardholder is not liable for any further money spent.
  • In reality your bank or credit card provider might not charge you for any money spent by fraudsters, unless it can prove you have been negligent.
  • Report any lost or stolen cards or unauthorised transactions to your card provider as soon as you spot them.

Source: https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/identity-theft-and-scams-what-you-are-liable-for
 
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Hasn't Phil been really bullish about chargebacks before? Normally they don't get charged back, especially not if they're a ton of small tips that show intent. He knows this. The only way they'd get charged back is if there's a suspicion of fraud. This suggests to me that Phil knew or at least suspected that these tips were made with a stolen card. So why is he so torn up about not being able to keep what he thinks is stolen money? This is a rhetorical question by the way, we all know why.

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So Phil must have known about this, he knows some poor fucker got defrauded to the tune of at least $2,500 but he doesn't care because he was supposed to benefit from it. No, PHIL is the real victim here, not the poor bastard who is literally a victim of a serious crime.
 
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BrandNewDetractor said:
Leave it to Phil to cry about losing STOLEN money and somehow act like he's a victim of mischief. Dude, that money wasn't supposed to yours, you should be happy for the original owner of the credit card that they didn't lose their money to a crappy streamer. Unlike Phil, they probably had to work hard for their money.
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This.
It's the most sickening aspect which sucks out the rest of any sympathy I could carry. If someone is able to pull back money because he's just trolling, yes that's unfair. But this is literally stolen money. There's not a shred of thought about the real victim and his followers are as blind as he is.

The most basic principle, not understood: Someone steals [object]. Someone gifts [object] to someone. Police catches the thief. You have to give back [object].
Dave cries because he can't keep [object] which wasn't his to begin with and falls into a deep depression. Makes himself the victim of the whole situation.

Fuck you, Dave. Proved again how much he cares about anyone outside of his small gaming room.
 
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N0thingICanDo said:
It's midnight here in Washington, Phil's late night gin binging definitely started to kick in


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HerrKlicks said:
https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1034372855188807680 / http://archive.is/oRvhP
https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1034367542398083072 / http://archive.is/lEzoj

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Reminder with all of this: he still has $7k this month (unless the cheers can somehow be taken away).
 
If You're Not Paying For It, You Become The Product

Sure, this Dave seeing a change in how ‘The Product’ is cheering – This may have dropped off significantly - However the most important factor has plummeted - TENSION

He can see that cheers are dissipating, as the good times are rolling due in thanks to Tut being a ‘Whale’

Dave must look as the ‘Whale’ as a short-term relief, alas this is not a dependable source of income for his business. DSP Gaming doesn’t have a personnel investment in the ‘Whale’ (Dave needs to manipulate /nurture – ‘The Product’)

DPS Gaming Key Business Model components are: Generate imminent demise. Gradually build tension /publicity. Ask ‘The Product’ for support. The critical factor is ‘The Product’ needs to believe that DSP Gaming is in worse position.

The ‘Charge-Back’ now fits in nicely in the narrative, allowing DSP Gaming to keep it’s business model, thus allowing DSP Gaming to nurture ‘The Product’. Ergo allowing DSP Gaming to build the tension. More importantly DSP Gaming controls the narrative, subsequently the facts.

Respectfully this a Win-Win for DSP Gaming – as they control the narrative, hence allowing him to switch back to the business model.
 
He has carefully dropped all mention of the cheers, so in Phil talk, we're supposed to memory hole that $450 was the tip of an iceberg. Instead he'll get up there on a freshly purchased cross of the finest oak and talk about how he will humbly carry this burden.

I also like how he frames this as 'trolls' or 'fake support'. We have to try to slide this over to the detractors, otherwise it may be raised that phil has begged so hard and his fans are such souls that they are stealing credit cards for him. This would also explain why Tut relies heavily on cheers, which are less likely to be rescinded. This is the perfect combo for Phil - he keeps the bulk of the money and gets to be a martyr and beg for more.

If this was a troll and those cheers don't get rescinded, this is comparable to another First Falcon hack job.
 
I don't get how Dave has concluded this guy could only have been a troll.

Isn't there another likely narrative? This guy was giving cheers left and right, to multiple streamers. He may have been new to the twitch experience. With so many twitch users that will dance for your quarters, he may have assumed Phil would dance for those delicious dollah bills.

So a couple days pass by and the few requests Tut makes, Tut gets. Hell, with that kind of money the streamers should have been saying "thank you daddy."

But Phil's bullish, pigheaded, troll-analyzing, paranoid self sees it rain money and thinks "Good thing happening? Nah. Must be a detractor!" So after Tut's lockdown on Amazon and his abysmal night playing SFV, DSP is probably in the mindset that he's being pranked. The next (or day after next?) day, Tut throws more bills in the air and screams "Play Sagat for me like you like it!" But DSP smells troll, and his pride flares up, and he thinks "I'll just ignore this guy. Show him I'm not willing to take it for money."

So Dave plays the same character all night. Tut sees his money go to waste and rages. The pig on the computer screen did not dance when prompted. He throws a fit, and tries to reverse it. All of it. Not being aware his cheers would not reverse for Phil, he at least gets the $450 refunded by claiming his card was stolen. Word spreads the card was stolen. Phil claims he knew it was a troll all along while pocketing $2000 in bits.
 
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