The Official Simpsons Griefing Thread

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Oh wow I just realized season 11 has Kill The alligator and Run as well as the one where Maude dies which in addition to Saddlesore Galactica are also considered to be two of the worst episodes of all time. I guess season 11 really was the turning point for the series.
If you look at the episode ratings here, you'll notice there's a sharp decline between Season 11 and Season 12. It's dramatically bigger compared to the decline between S9 and 10. (especially if you consider the fact people look back more fondly on S9 and S10, and far FAR less so with S11 and S12 nowadays although S11 and S12 are not as hated as the Al Jean era)

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>show makes fun of the idea that selma will marry grandpa
>they make that episode 3 seasons later without irony

I'll never not laugh at that.
 
Good then that I had already gave up by that point, but yeah, prior to this, they tend to have things be exaggerated dreams or hallucinations, like the time Homer tried cleaning in an un-ventilated basement.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JDluG324sh8

That scene was always cut in re-runs.

I do love this scene from season 16 though. "Spider poison is people poison?"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gNuuyiHAkeY

The fuck is this? A later day Simpsons episode made me genuinely laugh? Granted that that episode is from over a decade ago now but still I am shocked. You could take that scene and package it as a short like a Road Runner cartoon.
 
That scene was always cut in re-runs.
Which was a shame as that was so perfect.

The fuck is this? A later day Simpsons episode made me genuinely laugh? Granted that that episode is from over a decade ago now but still I am shocked. You could take that scene and package it as a short like a Road Runner cartoon.
It certainly kept topping itself.
 
I wonder how the decline in quality has impacted syndication value? I used to watch re-runs a long time ago, but I wouldn't bother today since I would only be interested in something from the first ~10 seasons and there is a 2/3 chance of getting latter-day Simpsons at this point.
 
I wonder how the decline in quality has impacted syndication value? I used to watch re-runs a long time ago, but I wouldn't bother today since I would only be interested in something from the first ~10 seasons and there is a 2/3 chance of getting latter-day Simpsons at this point.

The show is still worth a fortune in syndication. I think FXX bought the syndication rights for 1 or 2 billion for all the episodes. They seem to be well aware of the decline of the show and run it in blocks of good seasons and bad seasons.
 
In a way I think that documentary has benefited Apu in the long run, since honestly he's been unfunny ever since he got married. He was more likable without all of his shrewish family. So if they cut him from the show, I guess I don't mind.
 
Oh wow I just realized season 11 has Kill The alligator and Run as well as the one where Maude dies which in addition to Saddlesore Galactica are also considered to be two of the worst episodes of all time. I guess season 11 really was the turning point for the series.
I just looked up Saddlesore Galactica on Wikipedia and realized this show tanked during the Clinton administration.
 

I'm surprised that there's a spike for the movie, I only thought it was so-so. I liked the bit in Alaska but not much else. I wish the movie had been about anything other than "characters from popular TV show save the main locale of the TV show in their first theatrical film", which is much too generic a TV-show-turned-movie plot.
 
The thing about TV show based movies is that they're tricky, you gotta be innovative enough to attract the newcomers and hyped fans but at the same time familiar enough to bring in the old fans of the show and wary audiences unfamiliar with the product, but of course show a story that hasn't been done in the show to bring that "newness" element that could even win over the more cynical audiences.

EDIT: By the record I don't really think the movie is that good. It has all the stuff later episode Simpsons are accused of doing: Simpsons traveling, Homer being an ass, Lisa getting some bland boyfriend...
 
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If you look at the episode ratings here, you'll notice there's a sharp decline between Season 11 and Season 12. It's dramatically bigger compared to the decline between S9 and 10. (especially if you consider the fact people look back more fondly on S9 and S10, and far FAR less so with S11 and S12 nowadays although S11 and S12 are not as hated as the Al Jean era)

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Quoting this chart a second time, I decided to look up which episode aired on 11th November 2001:

Answer: "The Parent Rap", a season 13 episode I only have vague memories of having ever seen. Bart and Homer get shackled together as some kind of unorthodox sentence handed down by a different judge than usual.

I can't say it was a great episode as I barely remember it, but it's not an episode that really sticks out as being turning-point-milestone-level "bad" the way the aforementioned "Saddlesore Galactica" or, if I could mention another episode that I'd put in my bottom five Simpsons episodes (excluding clips episodes), season 12's "Simpson Safari" (Simpsons go to Africa a.k.a. "the one with the chimps in the diamond mine").

Another thing that could probably go on the chart is the South Park episode "Simpsons Already Did It" from summer 2002 when it was making fun of The Simpsons already beginning to run out of ideas, and that's with less than half the episodes The Simpsons has in the can today (although now South Park, with 289 episodes produced, is almost at the very same episode number, 291 episodes, that The Simpsons was at by the end of season 13, which ended a few weeks before South Park's "Simpsons Already Did It" first aired).

Bart got a bear? When was that?

I think the chart is referring to "The Fat and the Furriest" from season 15, although, to be anal, Bart doesn't actually get a bear, it's about Homer being called a coward by Springfield media for cowering from an angry bear at the garbage dump (even though that's the logical thing to do in that situation) so Homer, Bart and a few others go out to confront the bear only to find out that the bear is only angry because the hunter Homer hired had placed a radio receiver on its ear that was shocking him or something and they instead help the bear get into an animal sanctuary while pursued by the hunter.
 
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