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- Feb 3, 2016
So basically her personality is "Tumblr aesthetic".About Otters:
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http://www.spenecial.com/americangirl/ottersteaches/
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"Discussion with her"
She's a doll.
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So basically her personality is "Tumblr aesthetic".About Otters:
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http://www.spenecial.com/americangirl/ottersteaches/
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"Discussion with her"
She's a doll.
it was still in the box? Why am I not surprised kids from Wisconsin didn’t want to play with a buck toothed black doll?She's bought yet another Addy, which she already has several of:
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Something tells me her house resembles Barb's.
Are you suggesting that children playing in ways she dislikes isn't a serious, life threatening issue?This woman needs real problems in her life.
New tantrum incoming, more boy dolls are being made:
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In other news, one of her pals doxed someone for saying he didn't want to talk about race, and she had this to say:
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Because doxing some dude is definite safety.
Are you suggesting that children playing in ways she dislikes isn't a serious, life threatening issue?
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(this was about putting a white doll in moccasins btw.)
Why Culturally Appropriative/Non-Native Craft Is Not Allowed
(and why it will probably be risking your account to even do it)
What's that? Some blogger recently released a free pattern to make Hopi style moccasins? Or you have some super-"cute" fringe "Indian" mini dress you purchased off etsy? Were you looking through a copy of Sew the International Wardrobe for 18-Inch Dolls by Joan Hinds and there was a pattern for the most perfect jingle dress? Or you read Josefina's book and decided to make Mariana's outfit? And you want to show this off to us?
Yeah. Nah. Nope. Don't.
In fact, you should probably read this entire post and then listen to Native Voices in our Fandom explaining why this is a shit thing to do.
First of all, the The Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990 states:
Quote:
It is illegal to offer or display for sale, or sell any art or craft product in a manner that falsely suggests it is Indian produced, an Indian product, or the product of a particular Indian or Indian Tribe or Indian arts and crafts organization, resident within the United States. For a first time violation of the Act, an individual can face civil or criminal penalties up to a $250,000 fine or a 5-year prison term, or both. If a business violates the Act, it can face civil penalties or can be prosecuted and fined up to $1,000,000.
and:
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It is illegal to market an art or craft item using the name of a tribe if a member, or certified Indian artisan, of that tribe did not actually create the art or craft item.
What does that mean? It means that even labeling a doll clothes pattern as, say, a "Cherokee dress" or "Navajo earrings" is a violation. Yes, a bunch of people do that on Etsy. They're doing wrong. Don't do wrong with them.
On this board and in this fandom, a violation of Native Craft includes but is not limited to:
* Doll-sized Native-simulating footwear not made by a Native person.
* Doll-sized Native pow-wow style wear not made by a Native person.
* Doll-sized Native-simulating tribal clothing not made by a Native person.
* Crafts, outfits, patterns, and/or designs that are often called "woo," "Pretendian," or "Generokee." We're talking your knitfug dresses, your tragic suede fringed minidresses, your rainbow chicken "war" bonnets, the "costume" patterns in the back of Simplicity pattern books, and/or that Tiger Lily costume you spent four months making for your all-doll production of Peter Pan.
Unless you are Native displaying your own tribal work and/or can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that a Native person designed and made the outfit or accessories, you are not allowed to post it here. We don't want to hear about your appropriation.
The main exception are things made by American Girl for Kaya's collection. (We know AG is not a Native-run company, but since the items are made for her collection, we will allow it since she is a character of the line.) We will also consider, appropriately done, Singing Bird dolls/other Native characters as long as she and they are given her full respect.
But? Don't make Mariana's anything. No dolls. No costumes. No shoes. Nothing. Zip-pah. It has been articulated at least twice in this fandom (that Mod Neth has seen, and Mod Neth done seen some shit) that the Hopi and Pueblo people do not appreciate any attempts at all to reproduce their personal cultural clothing. Not even to make Mariana. Don't do it. Go make Clara if your Josefina needs a bestie.
* If you make a fake native outfit or anything for your dolls or you, we are probably going to request that you to take it down and explain to you how Culture is not a Costume. Also, it won't be a request. You will take the post down. Or we will take it down for you.
* Do not link to patterns of Native-implied costumes done by non-Native people once you have been informed they are offensive.
* If you post Kaya's cultural clothes of any form on anyone other than Kaya, prepare to get a long lecture about Why You Best Not Do That Shit.
Furthermore, the rule on displaying culturally insensitive crafts and patterns will not just apply to Native-"themed" craft. It applies to all Cultures of Color. The next re-statement's so important that it's getting a whole line, increase, and center to itself.
Culture Is Not A Costume.
See that? We hella mean it. If you post Roma insulting/mimicking costume, African Diaspora insulting items (just let Mod Neth see a doll with a doobie and a dreadlocked wig; you will regret your whole life from your conception until that very moment), a sorry-ass sari, a coconut bra and tissue paper skirt, or some Jade Pearl Chicken Hat mismash of Asian cultures, we will come down on you with the fury of the Valkyries. (Mods will consider Disney Princess costumes on a case-by-case basis. Even so, you should still probably avoid anything Pocahontas- or Esmeralda-related. They're kinda icky.)
"What about white culture?"
Well when white Western culture has had to fight for hundred of years to avoid being stomped out and there is a history of making it illegal to practice, dress, or even have "white" culture things in public, and white people are systematically decimated under world-wide Native destruction, then we'll think about how mean it is to have Addy in a pair of Uggs and tight yoga pants holding a pumpkin spice latte. Til then, life ain't fair and racism doesn't go both ways.
If we find that any member has made culturally insensitive outfits--and it is found anywhere--then we will seriously reconsider your continued membership on this board.
We respect our Native and Roma members more than your "need" to make doll shoes or a "fortune teller" costume.
Test us not.
So making a fringed leather dress or something inspired by a certain character is a sin worthy of death, but actively promoting 9 year old girls tribbing each other and having sex is one hundred percent okay. What the fuck?I don't understand why she is so against boy dolls. When I was a kid it was damn near impossible to find one that wasn't Ken or that creepy Chucky looking My Buddy.
Why is she so concerned about diversity? I remember getting the AG catalog every year when I was a kid. And after awhile they started selling generic non-story dolls with various skin colors and hair textures. Why not get those and make your own back story instead of waiting around for AG to make your autistic dreams come true?
Is she claiming Native heritage too or is she just being offended for other groups like a good little SJW?
I found these on that AG forum from a user named Thyme:
http://w11.zetaboards.com/agcollectors/topic/11741090/1
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The mobility aids aren't from AG but this site here: https://www.lakeshorelearning.com/product/productDet.jsp?productItemID=1,689,949,371,896,411&ASSORTMENT<>ast_id=1408474395181113&bmUID=1470407893197
They even have a helmet for your little tard doll.
These are probably useful for children with disabilities. But I imagine they get a lot of sales from doll autists trying to make the perfect plastic snowflake.
Thyme appears to be white (at least by her hands) yet is obsessed with dolls of color.
In this thread she butchers an off brand doll to make it into a disabled little sister.
The results are absolutely horrifying and the doll's head keeps popping off. The solution was to retie the ribbon around the head. Only now it's visible like that fairy tale about the lady who's head will come off if you remove her neck ribbon.
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The whole photo set is horrifying. actually.
Editing to add this. Board rules about cultural appropriation. I think this whole community might be a collective lolcow.
http://w11.zetaboards.com/agcollectors/single/?p=10044113&t=10563329
You apparently have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are Native or Roma in order to show off your doll clothes.
Admin has pronouns too under the name: We/Our/They/Their/Them. Looks like there's a field for any user to add them. So no one gets triggered by misgendering.
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Being a pedo: you are progressive and wholesome.So making a fringed leather dress or something inspired by a certain character is a sin worthy of death, but actively promoting 9 year old girls tribbing each other and having sex is one hundred percent okay. What the fuck?
Alright, so I went looking through the forum for drama. (Basically I just searched for the word 'banned') and I've found something amazing.I think this whole community might be a collective lolcow.
My apologies if last week’s post was offensive, I responded via email to the originator of those comments, as I do sometimes when a reply to a comment would get too long to fit. There are many insensitive representations of not just Pueblo, but all Native tribes online and it’s hard to understand why this blog is being singled out for attack when misinformation is being corrected, for example that this is a Pueblo outfit. It is sad to know non-authentic Pueblo and other misrepresentations labeled as “Native” doll patterns are currently available all over etsy and also see here here , as well as pixiefaire and here’s another from pixiefaire . McCall, Vogue, Simplicity have manufactured patterns labeled as “Native American” for quite some time, including this one labeled as “American Indian”.
Is that OK? No, but according to the law.
The final rulings in the IACB Protection of Products of Indian Art
and Craftsmanship https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/03-14827.pdf
§ 309.9 When can non-Indians make and
sell products in the style of Indian arts and
crafts?
A non-Indian can make and sell
products in the style of Indian art or
craft products only if the non-Indian or
other seller does not falsely suggest to
consumers that the products have been
made by an Indian.
As for the term “costume”:
noun: costume; plural noun: costumes
synonyms: outfit, garments, (set of) clothes, ensemble
- a set of clothes in a style typical of a particular country or historical period.
It means “complete ensemble of clothing” and on this blog, as in literature regarding costume, it is used for all cultures, for example, on this blog you can find it used in:
- a set of clothes worn by an actor or other performer for a particular role or by someone attending a masquerade.
- a set of clothes, especially a woman’s ensemble, for a particular occasion or purpose; an outfit.
this Polish “costume” https://jenwrenne.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/polish-folk-costume/ or French “costume” https://jenwrenne.wordpress.com/2016/07/21/marseille-costume-part-2/ and lots of others: https://jenwrenne.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/hooray-new-dolls-and-new-patterns/
Native artists have been representing their culture in doll form for quite a while, including selling those dolls in traditional outfits to non-natives. It takes a lot of research to find authentic examples among all the inauthentic stuff on the internet. Learning about, honoring, and appreciating ALL other cultures is something I love. Sharing that love by disseminating information and helping people learn more about sewing, history, dolls, and other cultures is what is great about this blog. Correcting misinformation, such as that those incorrectly labeled modern doll outfits I linked at the beginning are authentic, is an educational service that I really take to heart.
It’s sad when someone gets upset without knowing the whole story. I created this as part of an awesome collection of patterns from various regions that was going to be free for a donation as a fundraiser for http://collegefund.org/. Whether that will happen with the other patterns now remains to be seen.