Dragon Ball Thread - RIP Akira Toriyama

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demicolon said:
it hurts
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So far in the "post tournament" arc, we've had Good Vegeta somehow lose horribly to his weaker version because something something timestop and fighting to protect somebody or something makes you weaker in Salagir's cuckold mind as he couldn't fathom protecting something.
This is a Vegeta who is meant to be far stronger in base who has had Super Saiyan 3 for apparent decades losing to a Vegeta who unlocked it like two fucking days ago. Also the bootleg UI form is called out directly for being utterly worthless in a fight too.
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Just in case you were worried that Vegeta was immune to the same hatred usually directed at Goku by this series. Also they had "good" Vegeta earlier be scolded by Gohan saying that he'd behave because Gohan was there and stronger than him, and not because he's not fucking evil anymore. Very baffling characterization.
 
Symbol of the Chud said:
This is a Vegeta who is meant to be far stronger in base who has had Super Saiyan 3 for apparent decades losing to a Vegeta who unlocked it like two fucking days ago.
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Chud...
I am h a p p y...

Earthbound references aside, isn't 3 described as very draining to maintain as opposed to 1/2 which are pretty much self-sustaining and revitalising the user? You could argue 1: Evil Geets didn't use it too often yet to "fry his receptors" so to speak, 2: not caring about collateral damage at all gives him retard strength that Good Geets can't really muster and 3: Evil Geets is simply younger and less beaten-up?

Yeah I'm grasping at straws, big straws, the type of straws Chris used to drink soda with in Sonichu.
 
demicolon said:
Chud...
I am h a p p y...

Earthbound references aside, isn't 3 described as very draining to maintain as opposed to 1/2 which are pretty much self-sustaining and revitalising the user? You could argue 1: Evil Geets didn't use it too often yet to "fry his receptors" so to speak, 2: not caring about collateral damage at all gives him retard strength that Good Geets can't really muster and 3: Evil Geets is simply younger and less beaten-up?

Yeah I'm grasping at straws, big straws, the type of straws Chris used to drink soda with in Sonichu.
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The main reason SSJ3 was too draining for Goku was that he never had any practice using it with his living body's energies to address that. It does drain more than the other forms, but the implication is that there's a serious difference in stamina between his dead state and his living state where he does not really feel the energy loss. It's presumably possible to approach the same type of control he had over regular SSJ even if he never got there, but that would require actual training he didn't do.
 
Id watch a live action Dragonball of Gohans high-school years doing Saiyaman stuff. Like a light hearted The Boys. He's not killing anyone, but they are getting really fucked up in that slapstick DragonBall way while he literally dabs on em. Zoomers would love it.
Trombonista said:
I saw an ad for this auction in last Sunday's Tribune.
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>current bid is at 2.2k
I actually don't like DragonBall that much, on second thought.
Another Random said:
The main reason SSJ3 was too draining for Goku was that he never had any practice using it with his living body's energies to address that. It does drain more than the other forms, but the implication is that there's a serious difference in stamina between his dead state and his living state where he does not really feel the energy loss. It's presumably possible to approach the same type of control he had over regular SSJ even if he never got there, but that would require actual training he didn't do.
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When's the last time he used it? The anime version of the ToP when he was owning the liberals with facts and logic girl saiyans with raw skill while trying to "recover stamina"? That would imply he managed to get over the issue with it.
Smack Patrick said:
Yeah I hope they don't make "Beast Mode" an upgraded version of it.
Don't get me wrong, I like Beast Mode but Potential Unleashed gives off a totally different vibe.
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I'd be surprised if they made any changes to PU since it's a universal transformation skill.
 
Rick The Stick said:
Id watch a live action Dragonball of Gohans high-school years doing Saiyaman stuff. Like a light hearted The Boys. He's not killing anyone, but they are getting really fucked up in that slapstick DragonBall way while he literally dabs on em. Zoomers would love it.
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I can't believe the Japs didn't like slice of life sentai with Gohan.
Rick The Stick said:
I'd be surprised if they made any changes to PU since it's a universal transformation skill.
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ah
you are mein neigger
 
Professor Donger said:
I still will never forget the hilarious crash out Vegito had after the Majin Bra arc
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I don't even want to know the context.
"Bra I know you're having a breakdown but I need to know, did you kill people under the influence of an evil wizard who mind controlled you and forced out the most evil parts of your soul to the forefront of your mind with almost zero control over your actions?"
"Y-yeah?"
Obliterates her diaphragm
Professor Donger said:
There is plenty of fanfiction that starts off as simple shit like "What if Harry Potter was in the Star Wars universe" that devolve into some weird amalgamation of crossovers that doesn't make sense anymore.
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Fuck me this happens way too often. Sometimes it's interesting and well done, most of the time it's just some 15 year old going "what if I obtusely shoved all my favorite media into this universe?" There was this one fanfiction I was reading that was pretty entertaining and actually tried to organically incorporate the movies into the timeline as well as explore the magic part of DB that's rarely used aside from the Majin Buu arc, then the MC went stupid and then the author decided to go apeshit with crossovers or something. I don't recall but it turned a decent fanfic into hot trash so I quit.
 
Tri-Tachyon'sClown said:
I don't even want to know the context.
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The context both makes it somehow funnier and weirdly 100% justifies (this extremely OOC version of) Vegito, who is made out to be a villain at every possible turn.
Bra throughout her entire life has basically always shown herself to be a vicious little arrogant psychopath. When she was younger, and she found out that she had killed Goten and an entire planet worth of people when she unlocked a new transformation that made her more powerful than Gohan, she wasn't bothered about killing Goten or the planet at all, and was just happy she was now stronger than Gohan, Vegerot was displeased by this and told her that one day he'd have to kill her if she didn't focus on getting her power under control. Which is brutal but entirely fucking fair considering she just killed her own family and was smiling about it.
Then, it gets worse because the Majin Mark was something Vegeta could break free from, and in DBM, Cell breaks free of the control too somehow. It wasn't until Bra butchered literally everyone that she was scolded by a parallel version of herself that gave her the ability to break free. It also allowed her to somehow perfectly control Super Saiyan 2 without going berserk after breaking free, because she deserved a reward for slaughtering everyone.

The reason for her breakdown wasn't killing all of her friends and family, it was for being called 'passive'.

Vegito's biggest fear is Bra surpassing him and him being unable to stop her as she goes on a rampage and kills everyone, which she has a history of doing. He simply took her being vulnerable to Babidi's mind control as exactly that being a complete inevitability. Then everyone bullied him for it. Fucking, Gotenks was talking down to him after the giganigga namekian used his 'turn off ki' power. Then he got bullied by the Wanked Mary Sue Buu who taunted him being unable to destroy him. Then he punched by some troon android creature who stopped time and instantly shattered him. Then he got ragebaited by Goku and Vegeta coming up with new forms that astonishingly make them both weaker than he is in base. Then he took a pure black senzu bean from the evil wizard guy he fucking hates and ate it without a thought, and then finally he got caught in the timefreeze again after punching the bad guy and is now being kidnapped by 18 and 17 who found him, presumably to allow Ginyu to bodyswap him.

There's something about shitty fanfic that just cannot get Vegito right, the man is not supposed to get fuckass mad, nor is he supposed to get cheaply oneshotted by basically everything. The 'reasoning' for this Vegito being a fucking raging retard is because 'Vegeta was still evil when they fused'. As if everything that Vegeta accomplished was irrelevant, and that he was genuinely evil until he resolved his thoughts about Goku in his head. Obviously the fact that he sacrificed his own life to try to save the world was meaningless, as was his willingness to give up his separate life forever to beat Buu.
 
Rick The Stick said:
I kinda get it, because I had a bit of a "oh cool!" reaction when that happened too. Ocean Dub was the one a lot of people grew up with before Funi took over, so the nostalgia makes sense for the older English fans. Hell they only dubbed the show for two years(96-98) but the reruns ran till 05. Lot of people grew up with his voice.

Sean is a bit a cunt for sure, but I still very much enjoy him as Goku when the fighting happens. He also never shied away from dunking on TFS when asked about them which is funny. What's Masters doing?
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Masters saved every dime he made on Buffy and Smallville (where he played Brainiac IIRC) and pretty much spends his nights living his real dream of a musician on the bar circuit.
 
Symbol of the Chud said:
'Vegeta was still evil when they fused'. As if everything that Vegeta accomplished was irrelevant, and that he was genuinely evil until he resolved his thoughts about Goku in his head
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Which is such a fucking shit take because if people had paid attention, Vegeta stopped being evil exactly at this moment.

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He slipped BACK into evil using Babidi, but his heart wasn't truly in it, and he eventually fully became a "good guy" when he hugged his son and killed himself to try and stop Buu.

God Salgir is such a fucking faggot of a writer
 
Professor Donger said:
Which is such a fucking shit take because if people had paid attention, Vegeta stopped being evil exactly at this moment.

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He slipped BACK into evil using Babidi, but his heart wasn't truly in it, and he eventually fully became a "good guy" when he hugged his son and killed himself to try and stop Buu.

God Salgir is such a fucking faggot of a writer
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Of course he's fucking French...
 
Tri-Tachyon'sClown said:
I don't even want to know the context.
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lol
The Masochist screamed "HURT ME!!!" and the Sadist replied "No."

Very TL:DR mostly because I forgot the details: Son Bra (this name is fucking stupid) is not "sowwy", she's being a slut for headpats there and Vegito doesn't buy any of it.
 
Professor Donger said:
He slipped BACK into evil using Babidi, but his heart wasn't truly in it
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Lets not forget, he chose to be mind controlled. If he wanted to break free he could've.
The majinification struggle sesh wasn't him trying to resist being controlled, it was just him trying to keep the powerup but not be controlled, which he actually accomplished for the most part.

Symbol of the Chud said:
There's something about shitty fanfic that just cannot get Vegito right, the man is not supposed to get fuckass mad, nor is he supposed to get cheaply oneshotted by basically everything.
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Vegito's only sin is that he's smug; rightfully so given how strong he is; and somehow that translates to him being evil by some people.
Actually no, not some people. I think it's just Salagir.

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Chapter title posits a question: "Who is the best Vegeta?"
The answer?
Bra.
 
Professor Donger said:
And of course the next chapter is ANOTHER SIDE STORY

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What's funny is he's done Main Chapter - Special - Flashback since this stupid fucking arc started

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Oh shit, a sidestory on the nigger literally nobody cares about! The big shadowy evil guy who came out of nowhere!
It's genuinely incredible how in the time it took Salagir to make this slop garbage, official content has actually done three different multi-universe tournaments. The first being U6 vs U7, then there was the Tournament of Power, and then Heroes actually did the timeline tournament thing with the Super Space-Time Tournament.
The Super Space-Time Tournament also has actual interesting antagonists and original characters not from the original manga, like Demigra, Hearts and Aeos.

Looking at the original characters in DBM you've got.
Universe 5: Evil Shadow Wizard Nigger who gets angry and screams FUCK and what have you, is cheating in every round by wishing it on the Dragon Balls somehow.
Universe 6: Bojack's universe, brought along some random sluts with random magical powers. 0 relevance to the plot.
Universe 15: Timestop Troon Creature universe, tried to kill everyone immediately upon being born, the entire cast jobbed to timestop. Exists solely so shadow wizard nigger can wish for timestop. In Salagir's universe, Guldo could nodiff the verse because timestop sets your powerlevel to 0.
Universe 19: Techfaggots, a bunch of iron man suit using tech 'aliens' (look entirely human). They represent Salagir's absolute hatred of the Wuxia style of story that Dragonball represents, so they have a bunch of abilities that just totally bypass Ki, including a shield that can seemingly block anything, a sword that can cut anything because monomolecular, and a weapon that can kill wanked DBM Broly, who can tank both black holes and Vegito's ultimate and most powerful attack. One of the Techfaggots was momentarily granted popularity as a result of being one of the warriors who tried to fight Bra, unfortunately she lost to Bra physically and was then consumed by Bra's mary sue aura and started to simp for her, too.

Edit: the funniest part about the Main - Special - Flashback thing is that this Bojack "special" happened in near on every single fucking universe, too. It's not showing the divergence point of his universe, it's just his backstory. Meanwhile this XXI story apparently IS the divergence point of his universe that showed where things went differently what the fuck?

What a retarded story.
 
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