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Should be a wild four years.

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Mister Fister said:
Answer the fucking question, where are the photos you claim show Iran is winning?
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You need a photo? Of Iran Winning? Let's be really bloody clear: Iran is under NO illusion that it can defeat the USA despite its rhetoric. It just knows that the USA can not destroy it because it factually holds the ability to strike the region's infrastructure and decimate the global economy as it's swan song.

If the USA tomorrow buries Iran under a pile a rubble they'd have to be sure to hit every single potential launch site to stop the inevitable retribution towards the regions infrastructure, and we know 100% that the intelligence says that we won't do it because we tried it once and failed miserably and we know damn well we won't get them all.

Is Iran winning? Is the USA winning? There are no bloody "winners" in this bullshit war. There are only losers. This war is 100% a total clusterfuck of bullshit and even if tomorrow Iran was leveled we've got payback coming economically so I fail to see how this could possibly get chalked up to a "win" for America.

The strait is CLOSED. If tomorrow Iran ceases to exist it STILL remains closed until they finish mine-sweeping it and according to the current known estimates that have been released or leaked, this isn't going to be complete for a while.

Before sinking a navy, perhaps if Trump had allowed the ships to report the locations of the mines they dropped we'd have the strait opened, but after they dropped them, Trump blew them up. Didn't you know the rule of "never kill the leaders" in a war isn't there to protect them, it is there so there is someone to negotiate with.

While Iran officials were in Pakistan actually AGREEING to opening the strait, at the exact same time IRGC commanders were laying mines at the EXACT same time and neither knew what the other was doing because the leaders were killed. Iran has no navy left to remove the mines, and they don't even fucking know where some of them are, and that's why ships are hesitant to do the strait even under protection because also, insurers are refusing the insure the ships unless they pay kings ransom prices.

The USA has to sweep the strait and give it a green light and that is going to take time. So if the USA "wins" against Iran tomorrow, congratulations, the strait still remains closed.

If the strait could be opened by obliterating Iran right now, don't you think Trump would have done it already?
 
IRAN IS STRONG he said as nothing happened. nothing ever happened.
IRAN WILL FIRE SO MANY MISSILES AT ARAB INFRASTRUCTURE IT WILL DESTROY THE WORLD ECONOMY
but nothing happened. Nothing ever happened.

So he continued to sneed, and sneed he did. For he had forgotten what he did before the place was called sneed and feed.
 
MadStan said:
You need a photo? Of Iran Winning? Let's be really bloody clear: Iran is under NO illusion that it can defeat the USA despite its rhetoric. It just knows that the USA can not destroy it because it factually holds the ability to strike the region's infrastructure and decimate the global economy as it's swan song.

If the USA tomorrow buries Iran under a pile a rubble they'd have to be sure to hit every single potential launch site to stop the inevitable retribution towards the regions infrastructure, and we know 100% that the intelligence says that we won't do it because we tried it once and failed miserably and we know damn well we won't get them all.

Is Iran winning? Is the USA winning? There are no bloody "winners" in this bullshit war. There are only losers. This war is 100% a total clusterfuck of bullshit and even if tomorrow Iran was leveled we've got payback coming economically so I fail to see how this could possibly get chalked up to a "win" for America.

The strait is CLOSED. If tomorrow Iran ceases to exist it STILL remains closed until they finish mine-sweeping it and according to the current known estimates that have been released or leaked, this isn't going to be complete for a while.

Before sinking a navy, perhaps if Trump had allowed the ships to report the locations of the mines they dropped we'd have the strait opened, but after they dropped them, Trump blew them up. Didn't you know the rule of "never kill the leaders" in a war isn't there to protect them, it is there so there is someone to negotiate with.

While Iran officials were in Pakistan actually AGREEING to opening the strait, at the exact same time IRGC commanders were laying mines at the EXACT same time and neither knew what the other was doing because the leaders were killed. Iran has no navy left to remove the mines, and they don't even fucking know where some of them are, and that's why ships are hesitant to do the strait even under protection because also, insurers are refusing the insure the ships unless they pay kings ransom prices.

The USA has to sweep the strait and give it a green light and that is going to take time. So if the USA "wins" against Iran tomorrow, congratulations, the strait still remains closed.

If the strait could be opened by obliterating Iran right now, don't you think Trump would have done it already?
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Holy essay
 
FILTH Tourist said:
The CCP has been conservative because it is a retarded move. All that would do is motivate countries that don't like China and find Taiwan to strategicly important to them to act. Besides the bad PR, international heat, and response from the US and other countries not a fan of China. Taiwan has a pretty extensive stockpile of equipment and strategic reserves of fuel (because they planned on this being a possibility) they also have domestic food production too so starving them out is going to take a while if at all because you need to allow food and humanitarian goods in if Xi doesn't want to risk getting Maduroed and hung for war crimes.
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*hanged for war crimes

They aren't going to enlarge his dick, as amusing as that would be.
 
FILTH Tourist said:
The CCP has been conservative because it is a retarded move. All that would do is motivate countries that don't like China and find Taiwan to strategicly important to them to act. Besides the bad PR, international heat, and response from the US and other countries not a fan of China. Taiwan has a pretty extensive stockpile of equipment and strategic reserves of fuel (because they planned on this being a possibility) they also have domestic food production too so starving them out is going to take a while if at all because you need to allow food and humanitarian goods in if Xi doesn't want to risk getting Maduroed and hung for war crimes.
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Do you know how N.Korea can flatten Seoul through bombardment? Taiwan controls Islands with 200mm guns in range of China's costal centers. Plus has missiles itself. 3 gorges dam anyone?
 
Ash Gassem said:
China doesn't need to invade Taiwan. It can simply blockade Taiwan. Frankly, China's been very conservative to this point. There's absolutely no way the US could stop such a blockade. We can't even open the strait of Hormuz. Taiwan, btw, is very similar to the SoH in terms of global strategic importance.
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Sinking Western-flagged merchant chips laden down with computer chips might be the single dumbest thing China could do short of a return to Maoism.
 
SpergioLeonne said:
I don’t gamble. Nevada law allows as low as 88% RTP

IN OTHER NEWS, WTF I THOUGHT WE WERE BEST FRIENDS NOW
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Smart move. China has been caught before slipping spycraft into gifts.

If China at all feels bad, they know why this was done, and it is all their fault. They know they cannot be trusted.

It is a smart statement. The visit said, we have come here with open arms to establish mutually beneficial norms & trade.

But tossing the gifts says, "Who know who you are, and we won't be taken for fools. You cannot be trusted. We know it. You know it. You know we know it. We won't pretend otherwise."

BTW - When it comes down to even stickers or paper, you cannot really hide anything on there other than a designer disease complements of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
 
MadStan said:
we know 100% that the intelligence says that we won't do it because we tried it once and failed miserably and we know damn well we won't get them all.
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There's no reason to try.

MadStan said:
Is Iran winning? Is the USA winning? There are no bloody "winners" in this bullshit war.
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No.
Yes.
Yes there is and you're retarded if you can't see that.

MadStan said:
The strait is CLOSED. If tomorrow Iran ceases to exist it STILL remains closed until they finish mine-sweeping it
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Again, you failed the litmus test. You, and the people who think like you continue to repeatedly grasp the concept that the supply chain doesn't just STOP. Changes and adjustments are made. The world changes. The economy shifts. The systems we used to rely on Iran for are gone and as such, THE WORLD MOVES ON WITHOUT THEM. Over time this is a zero sum gain for Iran. Everyone else adapts to meet their needs without Iran, and the economy stabilizes, and they go bankrupt on a nuclear level.

Now that they're changing, they also don't go back as easily because Iran opened Pandora's Box by closing the Strait. Iran just can't say "hey purchase from us again!" because if the US forces the Strait closed again, everyone is screwed. The message is loud and clear: IRAN IS CLOSED FOR BUSINESS UNTIL THE USA SAYS OTHERWISE.

MadStan said:
it is there so there is someone to negotiate with.
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He didn't want to negotiate and Al Khameni 1000% HAD to die. If you can't see that, you're a fucking retard.

MadStan said:
If the strait could be opened by obliterating Iran right now, don't you think Trump would have done it already?
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It was never the objective. You want the play by play? Here it is.

>China is on the brink of Taiwan and about to start WW3 with Russia and Iran who is about to get nukes.
]>Trump tries bullshit peace talks with Ukraine as an excuse to back Ukraine and fuck Russia over. Russia is now occupied.
>Trump slowly picks apart China's logistical system in South America
>Trump ends Belt and Road in the Panama Canal
>Trump takes Greenland to keep deterrence pressure up
>Trump cripples Venezuela
>Trump cripples Cuba's capabilities
>Trump effectively pushed China out of South America
>Trump strikes Iran, simultaneously crippling India, fucking Saudi Arabia, and crippling China.
>Trump blockades the Strait. The Iran blockade is a facade. This is a US blockade.
>Trump cripples China into submission. WW3 averted. Taiwan aspirations halted.
>China accepts (temporary) defeat.
Calling it all Trump's doing is a bit of a misnomer, because it's US military strategy. But he's the man in charge right now. We have avoided WW3. Yeah, gas prices suck. But Gen Alpha probably won't get drafted.

MadStan, I understand that you're retarded and can't see these things and you're just mad about gas prices, but none of this is without purpose. The world isn't static. Things change constantly. The US wanted to cripple Iran and that's clearly what this was. We can confidently say it now. That being said, I'm fine paying double the gas for a hit if that fucker Al Khameni is dead. I hate that nigger and I understand I might be alone on that notion. I will die on that hill though.
 
Troonos said:
I've been kinda disengaged from politics for a bit because it's so depressing. Why am I hearing about Massey so much lately? Why are Trump supporters smearing him so much? He seemed kinda based for a while.
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He started saying "Trump Bad" so the media covers everything he says now and his national name recongition went from 2% to 90% based off it.
 
Ash Gassem said:
China doesn't need to invade Taiwan. It can simply blockade Taiwan. Frankly, China's been very conservative to this point. There's absolutely no way the US could stop such a blockade. We can't even open the strait of Hormuz. Taiwan, btw, is very similar to the SoH in terms of global strategic importance.
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China can’t blockade Taiwan. They don’t even have naval superiority of the strait let alone the east side of the island.
 
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