US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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We need new social ideas to match our new ever changing world. To think that some people, no matter how smart or far seeing, could come up with a perfect political system that would last forever is nuts. I revere the Founders and the society they created but shit has changed so much, we have moved so far away from their world that I don't think we can keep using that system as is for much longer.

I mean, didn't the Founding Fathers design their system with the understanding that the only ones voting would be English-speaking white male property owners? Thought for sure that was where you were going with that. Can't really put that genie back in the bottle no matter what you think about it, but I think we can all agree that voter ID laws are a step in the right direction.

Personally I think the two party system has been a far more destructive force than universal suffrage, though I'm not sure what one would look like without the other. The Founders predicted how cancerous this would become and were absolutely right. I don't think anybody is still seriously talking about the "MAGA party" becoming its own thing (or the two week Adderall bender where Musk talked about forming the "America party") but I can't see any way a viable third party could accomplish anything besides splitting the vote at this point.
 
Well that's even more stupid then the Fermi paradox. We can't even see the Voyager probes if not for the fact that we know exactly where they are and they are blasting a tight beam radio wave at us. There could be a whole googleplex of von Neumann probes out there and we wouldn't recognize one unless it showed up right on our doorstep and didn't look like a beat up chunk of rock.
We would definitely know if there was a whole googleplex (it's Googolplex, btw, Sean Anderson misspelled Googol when he registered Google.com once they realised Backrub.com sounded like a gay pornsite) of von Neumann probes out in the universe, because we'd literally be made of them. If you filled the observable universe with von Neumann probes each the size of a grain of sand, you'd still be looking at only a tiny fraction of a googolplex of probes.

Anyway, the reason it's a possible solution to the Fermi paradox isn't because we'd be able to see the individual probes, it's because we should be able to see all the second order effects of their presence around the galaxy and the civilization they're spreading: stars with missing planets, resource-rich star systems filled with giant habitats glowing in infrared, radio signals from this galactic civilization, etc.

And the probes should be all over our own resource-rich star system, eating our moons and whatnot.

They'd also likely be far more powerful probes than the Voyager probes, probably far larger, and outputting much more energy, so we could probably see them anyway.

And even if the probes themselves were designed to hide or go dormant, you can't really hide a thriving galactic-scale civilization.

I wouldn't put it past AOC to poon out for votes.
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The people leading the revolution were the rich. That's also the major reason why we turned out a lot better than the French.
Tbf, that was also true of the French Revolution. Robespierre was a well-to-do lawyer, Santerre (fellow Jacobin & jailor of Louis XVI) was a rich brewing business magnate, Saint-Just (even more bloodthirsty than Robespierre, nicknamed the 'Archangel of Terror') was from minor nobility and well-off enough that he could afford to be a NEET mooching off his family at the outbreak of the Revolution, etc. Louis XVI's own cousin Louis-Philippe of Orleans threw in with the Revolution and was among those who voted to execute the king; it's probable that he wanted to hijack the Revolution and use it to usurp the throne, as he was an advocate of a constitutional monarchy (likely with himself as the monarch), but he obviously lost control of things and got executed by the mob he had helped to unleash.

Maybe it's less a question of wealth and more-so a question of spirit, in which case the American revolutionary spirit clearly was far superior to the French one in both character & consequence. The American elite (both the classical landowning aristocracy of the South & the mercantile bourgeoisie of New England) seem to have had a lot more practical real-world experience compared to the French one, ex. Washington grew up in the relatively humble Ferry Farm rather than any continental palace and actually fought as a soldier in the French & Indian Wars whereas niggers like Robespierre & the Duke d'Orleans never got their hands dirty or seriously risked their lives pre-Revolution, and that experience seems to have generally shaped the former into better men.
 
That's the jist of it, but if you want added funny to it. it was the middle of feb of 2016, and mitch held the line, saying no no no, it's way too close to elections, we gotta wait, 6-7 months is nowhere near enough time, we gotta wait, it's not right.

then, rbg died and mitch was like.. WAIT.. what do you mean we can't do this? of course we got the time.
The key difference is whether there's a party split between the Presidency and the Senate majority. Historical precedent is that, during election years, when both are controlled by the same party, the President gets what he asks for with SC noms. And when they're controlled by different parties during those election years, the President doesn't get what he asks for with SC noms. It's not a written rule, but it is how the Senate has always done it in practice.
 
Tbf, that was also true of the French Revolution
It's true of every revolution, simply because of what they are: the replacement of a currently ruling elite by another elite group. Mass movements that seem genuinely uncoordinated and spontaneous always either have some ambitious elite pulling the strings from the start, or one taking the opportunity to grab the reins.
 
The judge in the Charlie Kirk murder trial has ruled cameras WILL be allowed in the courtroom for the ENTIRE duration of the trial, set to begin in July

Tyler Robinson's attorneys were fighting HARD against cameras being allowed in.

 
Oh yeah, I remember online during Obama there were tons that said there'd be permablue forever and GOP would never get a president again and have super minority in congress.
Little Green Footballs was a conservative, anti-muslim political blog where a lot of the big names from back then got their start and would hang out. Pamela Gheller for example used to post there, although no one remembers her nowadays, she was a boogie man on the left, a conservative who didn't worship and love the New Niggers from the Sand Dunes after they were allowed to kill a few thousand Americans.

But post-Obama the leader had a Come to Jesus moment, decided Obama and the Permablue Liberalreich would make being to the right of Mao impossible, and went full on pants on head retarded.

True, except half of the new issues the Democrats have chosen to champion have zero nuance in their constituents eyes. They call for binary support and anything else is treacherous to them.
>Trans
>You're pro or against, there's no middle on their side
>Nigger gibs
>It's maximum gibs with no oversight or nuffen
>Illegal amnesty
>Either you you want all illegals here or your a fascist
>Gaza, Iran, Somalia, "nigger town™" pet projects
>You support them all unequivocally or you're a Nazi
The Democrats have backed themselves into a corner with a good portion of their rabid base. They cannot pivot on these and other issues without completing alienating them and losing them forever. It won't be so simple to "spin" or "word smith" their way out of this. Personally I'm ecstatic, I wouldn't want to get caught in a position like that lol. don't call it a grave libdems, it's the future you choose. Probably best to start laying the ground work for a new party if they want to be relevant in 40 years.
I bring the above up becuase the admin of LGF had an infamous lolcow tier spergout where he posted some long screed where he declared the GOP dead, that they would have to spend "30 years in the political wilderness" to ever have a chance of winning a national election again. He then purged everyone on his blog that wasn't "neutral" and tried to turn it into DailyKOS (another name I haven't heard since pre-2016) only indie.

And then Obama lost the midterms and Trump killed the post WW2 50 year old Uniparty plan dead in it's tracks by just being marginally less hated than Hillary fucking Clinton.

They're still around and still batshit, if you want to get an idea of what a more unhinged DU looks like:


Sadly it looks like you have to have an account to see the non-main site blogposts, there should be a shitload of them on the right hand side where they post every little rabid lefty squirrel that reaches their braincages and starts flipping switches. But if you click on any of the main timeline posts you can see their comments, which is where the gold nuggets (like corn in shit) lay.

 
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