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The latter is closer to my argument although it's probably not caused by autism. To discard any confusion, I use the term autistic towards fujoshits as an insult because of how tone deaf and oblivious they are.
@Napoleon III gave a very in-depth analysis of gender norms and patriarchy family system which did make me look at the situation differently. Sure, its hard to believe the system was always perfect and there were never people experiencing discrimination due to their sex (remember how in the past, in many very trad, masculinuty-worshipping countries like Japan women couldn't even act on stage, leading to even more faggoty cultural phenomenons like onnagata?). But with economical and technological development, many things that "did work" about gender became outdated yet still were being pressed onto every young generation. The traumas young generations collected with each new iteration grew into an opposition. They claimed to break them, but in fact they break themselves and others, trying to roughly fit the pieces into the opposite gendered norm. It's like a hack writer who can only do a very shitty subversion of expectations, except when you think about it, it's not really.
Like here. Oh you thought it was your traditional heterosexual female fantasy about a young working Becky hitting it off with a rich single daddy that get constantly eyerolled and criticised by feminist fujoshi for implying a woman would ever need a hubbie or be a traditional housewife/nanny? TOO BAD, she is actually a *HE WITH A VAGINA*, so it's actually very queer and subversive. Take that, evil opressive hetslop!
As to why people turn like this? Well, there are many schools of thought on the subject but I do have a theory.
THEY ARE STUPID DUMB SILLY BILLIES. And since this is a very broad demographic, it explains the scale of both communities.
Yes, because they have their own kind of crazy gender fuckery:
A) One or both lesbians are gender bended men
B) Abominational hemaphordites/futanari fetish or in other words, putting dicks on lesbians.
Doesn't that kind of sound like a stand-in for something to you?
I was musing about this in one of the threads a long time ago. Came to the conclusion men prefer to impose themselves on female image even if there are no male participants in their yuri porn fics, while women usually prefer to eradicate themselves completely away from the men they worship. Vaginas on men in yaoi is a fairly recent phenomenon compared to how dicks/men turned into chicks are overused in decades of lesbian porn, especially the weeb kind.
Gooner shut-in men can't follow a female protagonist unless she is hot or is literally a dude on the inside.
Women can relate to male characters and many would even pick them over any female ones, bragging about it with pride.
It doesn't? It has always been this way since the beginning. Fujos were actively made fun for it because despite saying how yaoi is so much better than "eeew het", they basically made ukes women and repeated all the tropes they call toxic in straight smut. Those were early 00s. And the current "fujo fashion" shifts by decades. Wish I could find the post which shows how the yaoi manga artstyle shifts through decades. Basically it's a constant change between "two masculine men where one only acts as a typical teenage girl while the other is his bigger dominant daddy" and "literally one/two 'draw a masculine girl and call it a boy'". There are fujos who hate traditional uke/seme dynamic exactly because people troll them for that and they usually hard press on the masculine macho bravado looks in their art and own attitude.
Bruh, feels like you are edging on the incel rhetoric line here. There are stories like that, although usually more in favour of female characters (older hot dude X his kitten, richer dude X Becky the secretary, tall dude VS cute shortstack gal, cute asian BTS twink X her whuite woman ass). What you are describing can and does work well in romance stories/fanfics for men.
We will not talk about their quality, it can be pretty bad. Yet people do in fact often keep straight couple romance stories under constant surveillance is because of one simple thing. The dreaded "implications" or otherwise known as power imbalance.
No matter what kind of woke mf you are, you will admit that a woman cannot stand much a chance in many situations when faced with a man. Any fujo would probably say she would be terrified if the mc of, say, sweet pool or toga inu chi, was a woman, because of what kind of things she would have to go through and how she would not be able to stand a chance against male opponents/be on the equal foot with the male love interests.
Female-oriented fiction that aims to explore darker/sexual subjects is suffering from this greatly. Even the ever so degenerate minotaur porn book has to babysit the readers constantly, reasurring that nothing bad will happen to the mc and how she is le strong boss in this situation. Female character writing is grappled with kid's gloves.
Men do it a way as well, but differently. They do write about a lot of horrible shit happening to women, but either it's a full/mostly woman cast, or the worst of the worst happens to the usually main male characters who latter have all these arcs and overcomings. Having a comically evil sadistic bitch girlboss rape weak beta males and women is also very popular with them.
When I say that the straight couple romance feels restricted compared to teh gay in current climate — this is what I mean. They cannot go into darker territories as easy, mainly those for women.
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